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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething's WRONG! This feels JUST like 2016...This makes NO SENSE but it does if you consider what the orange asshole
said about he and mike johnson having a a secret.....WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT CONCEDE!!!! There's no way all that push through, HUGE crowds, great ground games and HUGE numbers of people turning against them and all of a sudden, this DEMENTED asshole wins? FUCK THAT! Do NOT concede and fight back!!
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... need to plan to evade the worst
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)NOPE!!! DO.......NOT.......CONCEDE!!!!! Use the legal teams that have been set in place...
yellow dahlia
(6,537 posts)The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)ALL OF A SUDDEN, THINGS TURNED AROUND THIS MUCH?!! This is the same idiot that is slurring, making no sense, can't put together a coherent sentence, paying folks to go to his rallies, smaller and smaller crowds who left early....THIS IS THE SAME BULLSHIT!!!
pat_k
(13,918 posts)We idiotically cheer long lines as signs of big turnout. When in fact, polling places have been closed in populous areas every cycle. And when a voter waits in a long line one cycle, they are less likely to vote the next. Lines are correlated with suppressed turnout. Not increased turnout. And when confronted with a long line, at least 5% are unable, or unwilling to wait. Lines are an intolerable poll tax we have tolerated for far too long.
Of course, that is not the only reason Harris did not have enough votes cast for her, but it is a substantial reason. I have no doubt that analysis over the coming days will demonstrate lower turnout in populous Democratic counties played a role.
Of course, that doesn't begin to touch the massive social problem created by more than four decades of a multi-billion dollar far right propaganda think tank and media noise machine, the effects of which have been accelerated by algorithm curated content that foments hate and rage that is, by any analysis, brainwashing. They think we are "nuts" because they assume "everybody knows" what they are seeing in their feeds.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)That won't happen now.
Lonestarblue
(13,564 posts)whathehell
(30,551 posts)People here seem to want to dismiss the idea, but I think there's something " off" here, something suspicious.
Botany
(77,907 posts)These results make absolutely no sense. He was underwater from the get go.
More than half of America did not like him.
pat_k
(13,918 posts). . . accelerated by algorithm curated information bubbles coupled with the scourge of Christian Nationalism.
It is NOT a debate to be won.
This is not a political divide.
This is not "stupid people."
This is friends and relatives we've lost to the brainwashing.
This is Christianity twisted beyond all recognition without a fight from progressive Christian organizations.
This is "us" treating "them" as unhuman, and vice versa.
This is a social problem that needs the dedication of substantial resources to even being to deprogram and deal with the insanity and personality altering effects of the rage and hate that is fomented and validated through social media.
It is beyond me.
SergeStorms
(20,849 posts)and wondering the exact same thing. This doesn't make one bit of sense. Something is wrong.
BComplex
(9,967 posts)And that Iowa poll by a pollster who's only been wrong one time.
Russia calling in bomb scares to polling places in all the battleground states. And trump's campaign has been swimming in Silicone Valley money...which they all want to have in cryptocurrency. I don't know how trump got so many votes when so many republicans jumped ship to join us; and the Dobbs decision; and Project 2025, but....Just NONE of this makes sense to me at all.
It's just too much "good luck" coming from bad actors.
2naSalit
(103,831 posts)That coincidences take a lot of planning.
BComplex
(9,967 posts)is.
2naSalit
(103,831 posts)That carpetbagger running against Tester didn't have any ads or ground game until Leon got involved in the campaign thing.
dlk
(13,347 posts)They dont make sense.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)It was reported in the PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER that the he's claimed victory because of the rustbelts and the rural areas BUT there are at least 200K mail ins in Philadelphia and the suburbs and the earliest count is estimated to be finished by Wdnesday but may take as long as the weekend.. WTAF?!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/philadelphia-and-its-suburbs-expect-to-finish-counting-ballots-wednesday-with-thousands-of-mail-ballots-left-to-go/ar-AA1tALkp?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Read this article no older than 2 hours.
kozar
(3,394 posts)Immediately vomited, rum for breakfast
Unbelievable
Koz
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)trump was advised by the assholes that were on his team to PREMATURELY anounce his victory. He did EVERYTHING that anyone would do to LOSE! He had SHRINKING rally attendees & he paid folks to attend who bounced when the payment hit their venmo. He talked about another man's equipment, (whose daughter basically told him to keep her daddy's name, ARNOLD PALMER, out of his NASTY mouth), simulated fellatio in public & bright daylight on a mic holder, called our vets, our fellow Latino & Caribbean Americans AND our country GARBAGE, plunged the RNC into millions of ducats by stealing the funds to pay for his legal teams, he stole our countries secrets, tried to pay Stormy Daniels off AGAIN, etc, etc, etc but even though he had the voter equivalent of 3 kids & a goat ,while Kamala literally had millions of people voting for her, 1 of the most powerful GOTV in modern history & billions of money raised to help people vote, etc but suddenly he won? Won my ass! LIFELONG republicans crossed party lines to vote for Kamala but some him and all his morons won?
NO, not at all. Luckily, she's a prosecutor and she won't shy away from her RIGHTFUL won. I'll be damned if we go through a worse nightmare 4 years whitout ANY guardrails.
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)I've personally known people who went from disliking Trump and his policies to repeating almost every single misinformation from the right. They may not have voted for him but they disliked our side enough to stay home. Yes, the MSM is complicit but I believe we more have a social media problem. The right has weaponized social media.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)As of yesterday, juior was openly saying that he was looking for a place to run that had no extradition treaty but SUDDENLY, millions of people WHO WEREN'T AT THOSE PITIFUL rallies came out to vote for that asshole? NAH!! I also do NOT believe that social media is strong enough to do what he THINKS he got away with.
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)I totally agree that something nefarious happened but we also need to find ways to more effectively counter the rampant misinformation that has been used to divide us. It gives them a cover for whatever scheme their war room concocted.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(964 posts)Spread this ...11.03.1948 Republicans believed they won against Truman & The Chicago Tribune had a huge banner across their front page:
"DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!
THEY WERE WRONG and it was made right!