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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, I'm done.
I just can't believe this has happened. The majority of the people in this country are insane, stupid, ignorant haters. So be it. They have gotten what they wanted. Now they will have to live with it because I give up. I just don't care anymore. Time for me to keep my head down, hope I can survive what is coming.
There are no checks against what Trump wants to do. If he manages even half of it, this country as we hoped to make it is gone. Maybe we can get it back, in a generation. I don't know. I won't be here to see. This was likely my mother's last election. She might be around for the mid terms, but if I see no hope we can win enough seats to have any majority, I don't think I'll bother. If my doctor confirms what I think is happening, I won't have the mental capacity anyway. It's not just long Covid, it's likely dementia of some type, and moving fast.
I apologize for being a cheerleader, trying to help people get through the process. I truly thought we would win. Maybe by only the 270, but a win. Keeping the Senate, at least, just enough in the House to carry on. But I think we were lied to, hoodwinked. Now that I see the margins, we had no hope.
So, no picture of me on my knees, saying I'm sorry. Just have to take my word for it. I'm not watching any news, though maybe I'll stop by and read a few posts here. Or not. I've seen how this sort of madness goes. It's not going to be America anymore. Daily life will go on, but it won't be the same.
Goodbye. Take care of yourselves, take care of the people you love.
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)It's a disgusting, immoral nation with the attention spans of gnats.
Johnny2X2X
(23,837 posts)Thats what happened here.
Trump didnt win voters. He just convinced millions of Biden voters to stay home.
Maru Kitteh
(31,430 posts)He expanded his vote with pure, unadulterated hate and fear. That's what they wanted.
Omnipresent
(7,341 posts)In 1984 Mondale only won Minnesota, Reagan won the other 49 states. I was a young teenager then, but we did survive and move forward to better electoral outcomes.
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)FSogol
(47,543 posts)SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)And the Supreme Court is gone for at least 40 years.
people
(836 posts)About Reagan and Bernie Sanders. But it really isn't funny, I know.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)reagan was the beginning of the slow, painful, downward rightwing spiral we have been suffering on since 1984.
There has been no "better" outcome since then, we were never on a strong, positive path. We won some short-lived battles but this war has been systematically devastating everything good about humanity since we started allowing the rightwing to pretend to be a legitimate political party instead of calling them out for being the criminal gang they have always been.
Omnipresent
(7,341 posts)Believe me, we will make a comeback.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....we won't, because we haven't yet.
And this group that ate in power now are determined to set us on a new track that will not allow for it.
2naSalit
(101,040 posts)Out of time. The biosphere won't hold up for more than a few more, as in about 3, years before entropy occurs and wipes out most of the species that keep the biosphere in such a state that it supports our life forms. Once that gets far enough along, and we're a ways down that road, there is no coming back. It's a race to see whether it's Mother Nature or our own selves that takes our species, and most others, out.
Nothing will matter other than trying to breathe at that point and it's coming soon.
Omnipresent
(7,341 posts)Its a sad movie about earth becoming less inhabitable to live on.
2naSalit
(101,040 posts)We, as a species, chose long ago to elevate the physical rather than the mental capacity of our being. Found out that sex felt really good and we went with it for we're worth, literally. We will not be traveling to any other place or planet or what have you in our physical form. Had we, as a species, chosen to develop and utilize that other 90% of our unused brains, we would be in a very different situation today... not facing global extinction by our own hand.
durablend
(9,024 posts)Compared to what's coming.
At least those egg prices will come down!
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)hatrack
(64,527 posts)"Well, at least we solved the Fermi Paradox".
PatSeg
(52,592 posts)We've never had a candidate that even came close to Donald Trump. Add to that many people are getting their news and information from nontraditional, often unreliable sources.
I don't see a comeback in my lifetime.
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)They will NEVER give up power, that was the whole point.
Moostache
(11,101 posts)It won't be by voting or organizing or knocking on doors in the vain and futile delusion that it matters or makes a difference...
This ends when power is wrested back and that only happens in violence and war.
Elections are over.
Representatives that can actually debate and compromise to make policy? If you believe that, just what fucking rock have you been under lately?
No, our last chance was squandered in 2021. Biden should have immediately moved to do two things - 1) prosecute and convict and sentence Trump for J6 and 2) reset the SCOTUS by naming 6 new justices immediately. Those bold actions could have at least hit the pause button on the slide into fascism and lunacy that now holds sway.
Our so called rights are going away very soon.
Posting things like this in the near future (without identity hiding software and rotating internet access, as long as THAT lasts) will be akin to a 'guilty' plea in the kangaroo courts that are coming.
It is over in the form that was known...what may come next, after the purges, after the deportations, after the camps and 'solutions' (final or otherwise) is a violent bloody war or increasingly compromised go-along-get-along 'leaders' fighting for privileges like not being killed or jailed. In any event, mark the date and remember the past - it all ended on November 5th, 2024, and it was given away voluntarily by many who simply believe the lies and handed it over without so much as a second thought.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Our "best and brightest" have been squandered for all this era. Some have given into capitalism, amassing obscene fortunes heedless of systemic injustice while others have served our government's arcanum, trading justice for expedience and ambition, neither endeavor with appropriate reflection on the inherent value of their choice.
Human society has probably reached an evolutionary impasse. It is upon us to acknowledge that just as the unfortunate facts of planetary inhabitability loom. Good times, eh?
Arne
(3,609 posts)But thank you for a new word.
ancianita
(43,162 posts)be any electoral outcomes at all. Oh sure, there will be elections. But do you seriously think there will be clean honest elections?
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)I posit that there are many more in horror and disbelief this morning than happy with the results. The unpublicized part of project 2025 is the "how to steal a general election" chapter.
Omnipresent
(7,341 posts)We may not have been left with much power, so we have to protest.
I know everything looks bad, especially project 2025, but hand ringing, pointing fingers, and dwelling on this is not going to give us clear heads to fight effectively.
ancianita
(43,162 posts)It's not that everything "looks" bad. Everything IS bad. Review the Project 2025 "Mandate for Leadership."
The personnel are chosen. The actionable policies are in place with SCOTUS' blessing.
Don't think in the abstract any more. Do some reading and research. Because we can't afford to just "talk" in the abstract.
If you cannot name real options, then what...
2naSalit
(101,040 posts)We will not survive this.
valleyrogue
(2,636 posts)These Project 2025 fascists have NO intention of giving up power.
Only force or dissolution of the US will stop it.
CrispyQ
(40,812 posts)TBF
(36,017 posts)what they are doing. The Christian Nationalists have won.
Vinca
(53,576 posts)Omnipresent
(7,341 posts)All of this needs to be hashed out.
We have to learn from what went wrong, so we can move forward.
Moostache
(11,101 posts)1) Billionaires exist.
2) Billionaires like being above any laws or control.
3) Billionaires bought control.
The only thing I take solace in is that they are going to be wiped out the same as every other living creature not encased in Chitin and crawling on the ground in the next 20-25 years.
This political shit show and ending is only the prologue.
Much, much worse is on the horizon.
hawkeye21
(313 posts)Back in 2008 and 2012, we were proud of America and of Barack Obama. Today, only 12 years later, the USA is history, thanks to a satanic cult led by a nearly 80-year-old, lifelong con man. And we are ashamed that this country has been conquered from within by a bunch of cowardly scum. How can all of this have happened in only 12 years?
PatSeg
(52,592 posts)GW Bush. Things got better under Obama and Biden, but the right-wing hold on this country didn't let up. They are like the monster who will not die in a horror film.
valleyrogue
(2,636 posts)The Powell Memo was a couple of years later, but the seeds were already there thanks to the loudmouth Birchers and Republicans bent on exploiting the Wallace vote.
PatSeg
(52,592 posts)I remember far too well Nixon's "Southern Strategy" and catering to the apolitical Evangelicals with promises that were never meant to be fulfilled.
slumcamper
(1,779 posts)Friend,
I feel what you've described. The DU community is feeling the pain. While different stripes and intensities, it is pain none the less.
We need your thoughts, ideas, and companionship. We draw strength from solidarity.
Please don't abandon us in this moment of darkness. Please?
Hang tough!
(((HUGS))))
valleyrogue
(2,636 posts)I couldn't understand people here talking about how "great" it would be to get rid of it. I thought: "What are you thinking?"
THIS exact situation is why the filibuster and cloture are needed.
kentuck
(115,280 posts)They were not told the same facts about Donald Trump that you were told. Even if they had been told, it probably would not have mattered. He was right. He could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose a vote.
But they were mostly victims of FOX News and right-wing media that did everything in their power to whitewash and cover-up everything that Trump said or did.
Taraman
(404 posts)The United States is now the Untied States.
I'll continue on trying to be nice to people, but I'm too old for any bigger hope than that. Does the idea of a "common good" survive this?
GenThePerservering
(3,164 posts)and my heart is not breaking. I'm angry and want to make a big, loud mess. Not going to hide at home, cancel social media, become a mouse. We've lived through bad times in this country, and these are very bad times. But giving up does nothing. I'd rather see violent rebellion than passively.
Let a little time pass, then remember that we are not powerless.
