Well..... Will there be a National Recount of this election ASAP?

[FarPoint]

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:56 AM - Edit history (1)

Update to this OP:

Biden has Super Powers and Immunity.... This in my opinion is a National Security Issue...Essentially an attack on America ....

This election/voting counting just didn't go " naturally"...in my opinion.


We really need to demand a National recount.... Hand-visual recount....

Who here supports this demand and if so, how do we have the Democratic Party to proceed?

[CommonHumanity]

1. I support it and do not know how to proceed-NT

[Ocelot II]

2. There's no such thing as a national recount.

Recounts are regulated and conducted by the states. In some states a recount is automatic if the margin between two candidates is less than a certain amount; in other states the candidate has to request one.

[FarPoint]

10. Biden has Super Powers and can make this happen

I think we were under attack....this maybe the approach for National Security...etc...

[Ocelot II]

13. No, he doesn't, and he wouldn't do it anyhow.

[yellow dahlia]

3. Recount - yes, but...

...only the states that look like something could be askew. Some states performed consistent with trends and statistical believability.

[Meadowoak]

26. like the blue states that suddenly flipped for trump. the numbers don't look right to me and don't match exit polls

[TwilightZone]

4. Can't demand something that doesn't exist.

As we should all know by now, election issues are administered by the states. It's unlikely any states are going to end up close enough to warrant a recount.

[FarPoint]

11. I posted above/

Biden has Immunity Super Powers....National Security Breach issues...

[CountAllVotes]

5. The whole thing stinks to high heavens

And yes, I for one demand a recount!

& recommend!

[jimfields33]

9. I'd pick a state you don't trust and go to the AG or governor of the state and demand a recount.

That’s the best path to go.

[onenote]

16. that isn't how it works anywhere I know of.

A voter can't just demand that the governor order a recount. There are specific rules governing when a recount can be held, who can ask for one, who pays for it, etc.

So your 'best path' is really no path at all.

[pat_k]

6. Laws governing recounts vary by state.

NCSL Brief on Recounts
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/election-recounts

There are usually mechanisms for candidates to seek a recount, but I'm a little vague on whether a coalition of voters would have standing to sue for a recount or some such on general grounds (and if they could, they would probably have to pay for it.) Groups who have a case that they were wrongfully disenfranchised certainly have standing to bring a case to remedy the wrong, but that typically addresses some subset of ballots/issues.

It seems there is little will within the party to take a hard look, but perhaps it is there. I for once certainly hope that as county canvasses are completed, individuals or organizations from within or outside look for red flags and take steps to ensure ballots have not been improperly rejected or that provisional ballots have been properly counted, and . . . I don't know what else needs looking at.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Nope.

Except for a few close races where the margin is under .5%, there won’t be any recounts.

No recounts at all in the presidential race, since Harris has conceded.

[FarPoint]

12. Biden has super powers...

This is a National Security Issue....

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. You are confusing immunity with impunity

Any orders Biden might give would have to be carried out by dozens, if not hundreds of people who are not immune from prosecution.

[FBaggins]

39. What a great way to say that

Becoming such a common misconception of what SCOTUS said.

The only thing to add is that it would be tens of thousands of people- and most of them just voted for the other guy. And (as mentioned above), state law controls, so even liberal secretaries of state would reject the order.

[Polybius]

29. Yes, but there's no evidence of fraud

[littlemissmartypants]

32. You may believe that President Biden has ...

"Superpowers" but unless you can convince him of that I'm pretty sure that you're on your own here.

Nice gesture though.

❤️

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

8. Recounts are up to the individual states

Some states will automatically do it if the margin is under 0.5% or less. None of the states are within that margin right now.

[ecstatic]

14. trump is suspiciously quiet after saying for weeks that he didn't need votes

Link to tweet

[littlemissmartypants]

33. What's the rest of this line of reasoning?

Or is that it?

Full disclosure, I have only watched her show once or twice and otherwise sound-bites only here exclusively.

❤️

[onenote]

15. No. There will not. Elections are not handled "nationally"

They are handled state by state.
And the fact that you don't think the election went "naturally" but offer absolutely no indication of what causes you to think that other than the fact that we lost isn't grounds for a recount of any state's elections at this point.

I swear I'm beginning to think some of these posts were cribbed from things written by Rudy Giuliani four years ago.

[FarPoint]

17. OUCH....

Why be so mean???? I'm talking to what I thought were Democratic Peers. You don't have to comment if this concept seems small to you...

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I swear I'm beginning to think some of these posts were cribbed from things written by Rudy Giuliani four years ago.

[onenote]

18. Because I think its a really bad look for DU for it to become a forum for unwarranted election denial.

Leave that to the other side.

[FarPoint]

19. Many in America and around the world

find this election to be smelling very fishy.... Realistic concerns of russian interface...an attack one might call it on a free and fair election....Investigate and recount.

You may want to just roll over...go ahead but do not attack me.

[onenote]

22. "Realistic" -- explain how it was done.

There is no more "realistic" evidence of vote fraud in this election than in the last one and the claims of fraud in the last one cost folks a lot of money in damages and in lost jobs.

[SoCalDavidS]

30. Nobody On A Message Board Can Do Shit

And Kamala's campaign staff have thrown in the towel, and she has conceded, so that's proof enough for me that either don't think there is something fishy, or they don't care to pursue any investigation, since it's unprovable.

[iemanja]

24. Why are you working so hard to prolong our agony?

Isn't the outcome shitty enough as is?

[SCantiGOP]

21. First, answer this:

Why aren’t the National Democratic Party, the Harris campaign, the US Justice Department, MSNBC, or anyone else calling for this? Are they all in on a conspiracy?
The answer is two words: We lost.

[iemanja]

23. There is no such thing

States control elections, and none of the results in the states are close enough to merit one. You're in denial. Start moving through your stages of grief.

[BannonsLiver]

25. It's not going to happen

And the more time we spend hand wringing about it is time that could be spent on figuring what went wrong and how to move forward.

[SoCalDavidS]

28. We Know What Happened, And We're Going To Move Back, Not Forward

I'd like someone to explain how we could possible fix this in the future, when half the voters are willing to vote for someone like him, rather than someone like Kamala.

This isn't fixable.

[BannonsLiver]

31. Yeah I understand the feeling but I'm not quite ready to hang it up just yet.

And I was talking about moving forward as an opposition party not the country as a whole. It’s obvious we’re going back.

[SoCalDavidS]

27. I Think By Christmas You'll Be Able To Reach The Acceptance Stage nt

[stillspkg]

35. Wow, Who Are You?

Nothing about Trump's win seems legitimate to
me. When people try to stifle legitimate questions and concerns, it's the one doing the stifling that gets my attention, as in "who are you?"
There are a whole lot of people at risk because of whatever the hell got pulled off.

[orleans]

37. if you scroll down on the page from my link you can listen to

thom hartmann's show from wednesday. hartmann's a duer btw
https://www.thomhartmann.com/

i missed part of his show on wed. so i'm playing it now. it might help explain some stuff

[Polybius]

38. It doesn't make sense to you because perhaps you were too overconfident

Did you believe the lies that the polls were wrong, and under-representing Harris?

[czarjak]

34. The old "Trust But Verify"?

The rubes would be totally down wid dat! Be best to be safe.