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Cattledog

(6,656 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:02 AM Nov 2024

Remember, Trump is a "Lame Duck"

He now has to govern and that's something he can't really do. He's a showman and will probably do some serious damage to
the country and institutions but he's a relic and probably won't even last 4 years.

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Remember, Trump is a "Lame Duck" (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2024 OP
He might not last four weeks. I fully expect him to be removed via the 25th Amendment. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #1
Please, read section 4 of the 25th Amendment. rsdsharp Nov 2024 #7
There is always a first time, and if there is anything about Trump that is evident, valleyrogue Nov 2024 #8
Do you really think he'll just go willingly? Or will it take a 2/3rds vote of both houses of Congress? rsdsharp Nov 2024 #9
I give it a 0% chance. And that's generous. DeepWinter Nov 2024 #26
There are always other ways. GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #13
What would those be? rsdsharp Nov 2024 #24
Let's just say I don't believe that their agenda is GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #34
Come on. Show some guts and say what you mean. rsdsharp Nov 2024 #37
I'm assuming GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #38
Ha! What more need I say that requires "guts"? GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #39
Damned if I know, but there must be some reason you won't spell out the "other ways." rsdsharp Nov 2024 #40
Oh, I don't think you're that naive. GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #41
I'm not naive. I think I know what you're suggesting, and why you don't have the courage to spell it out. rsdsharp Nov 2024 #43
See reply #39. Should be sufficient for most any GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #44
Because a congress and senate majorities are needed to actually remove president from office. LisaL Nov 2024 #49
Not simple majorities. Two-thirds majorities of both houses. rsdsharp Nov 2024 #55
25A requires a majority of the cabinet FBaggins Nov 2024 #17
They can all look forward to being fired at some point soon too. Omnipresent Nov 2024 #27
They will bdamomma Nov 2024 #18
"He now has to govern " TwilightZone Nov 2024 #2
I am guessing they will just kill him rather than 25th amendment travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #6
Remember he said that if you vote for him this time, you'll never have to vote again MiniMe Nov 2024 #11
He's shining his golf clubs. GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #14
Hell difn e executive orders. Congress wiil govern nini Nov 2024 #33
um HELLO that was the plan Skittles Nov 2024 #3
As soon as the ink is dry on his pardon he will be put out the pasture. yourout Nov 2024 #4
Vance is a million times worse than Trump and he's got the house and senate tenderfoot Nov 2024 #5
It's Cute SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #10
How is he worse ? JI7 Nov 2024 #20
He is one of the ones the Christofascists want but my money would be on Mike Johnson. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #23
I think his health may preclude another run BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #12
Trump will run again. GoYouPackersGo Nov 2024 #28
If he makes it through 4 years. duncang Nov 2024 #15
Remember, Trump is a fuck headed orange dick faced anus mouth riddled with herpes Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #16
He is the US version of Uganda's Idi Amin. n/t valleyrogue Nov 2024 #22
And not as jolly nor with charisma Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #30
Trump's health is not good Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #19
Very true. LisaL Nov 2024 #48
Another possible scenario is he resigns shortly after taking office in return for a pardon. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #21
He will pardon himself. mobeau69 Nov 2024 #54
I think you mean "Trump is a Limp Dick". milestogo Nov 2024 #25
Governing hasn't been the GOP agenda since Nixon. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2024 #29
Yup, and that includes Trump's previous term. GoCubsGo Nov 2024 #31
Or.. he has 4 years to do whatever the fcuk he wants. C_U_L8R Nov 2024 #32
Supposedly Emile Nov 2024 #35
IMHO, he's a TWO YEAR lame duck WarGamer Nov 2024 #36
2028 is gonna be fun Polybius Nov 2024 #42
Vance vs No one Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #46
They just used him to install Vance. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #45
I don't think Trump is planning on leaving. LisaL Nov 2024 #47
Please don't start this again. totodeinhere Nov 2024 #50
Which means he is even more dangerous. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #51
Great depression 1929 -1939......................... Lovie777 Nov 2024 #52
Great Depression without the New Deal Vogon_Glory Nov 2024 #53

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
1. He might not last four weeks. I fully expect him to be removed via the 25th Amendment.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:03 AM
Nov 2024

This Trump candidacy is nothing but bait and switch.

rsdsharp

(12,007 posts)
7. Please, read section 4 of the 25th Amendment.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:12 AM
Nov 2024

It is more difficult to remove a President who is reluctant to leave office through the 25th Amendment than it is through impeachment. And in four tries, impeachment has never been able to remove a President from office.

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
8. There is always a first time, and if there is anything about Trump that is evident,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:13 AM
Nov 2024

he is an individual for the record books.

rsdsharp

(12,007 posts)
9. Do you really think he'll just go willingly? Or will it take a 2/3rds vote of both houses of Congress?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:17 AM
Nov 2024

Likely a Republican controlled Congress.

GenThePerservering

(3,391 posts)
38. I'm assuming
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:04 PM
Nov 2024

He will suddenly have an 'illness' and Couchfucker will take over 'in the interim'. Please pray for the greatest president we have ever had and send money to TRUMP 911.

rsdsharp

(12,007 posts)
43. I'm not naive. I think I know what you're suggesting, and why you don't have the courage to spell it out.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:55 AM
Nov 2024

GoodRaisin

(10,923 posts)
44. See reply #39. Should be sufficient for most any
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:20 AM
Nov 2024

reasonable person. I’m not worried about my courage. You needn’t be either.

LisaL

(47,424 posts)
49. Because a congress and senate majorities are needed to actually remove president from office.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:20 AM
Nov 2024

Otherwise it won't go anywhere.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
17. 25A requires a majority of the cabinet
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:18 AM
Nov 2024

He’s about to select that cabinet

And, of course, they probably won’t be in place in the first four weeks

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
18. They will
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:26 AM
Nov 2024

install Vance if they get their chance. This is their plan, but they will cause much damage.

But this could have avoided if those who did not vote had. Remember Project 2025 they WILL implement it.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
2. "He now has to govern "
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:05 AM
Nov 2024

He didn't bother in his first term. Why would he have to now?

He's not a lame duck. I find it odd that people seem to think he is. He's not about to go anywhere unless he dies. it's cute that everyone thinks that Vance will be able to convince Trump's hand-picked cabinet to cut him loose.

travelingthrulife

(5,201 posts)
6. I am guessing they will just kill him rather than 25th amendment
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:12 AM
Nov 2024

he is no longer of value to Putin or the other oligarchs.
of course they will blame the assassination on Democrats.

nini

(16,830 posts)
33. Hell difn e executive orders. Congress wiil govern
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:49 PM
Nov 2024

And tear up everything they can that an exec order can't. We're in some deep deep shit here.

yourout

(8,825 posts)
4. As soon as the ink is dry on his pardon he will be put out the pasture.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:08 AM
Nov 2024

Junior will be placed high enough to make sure the gravy train of grift keeps coming in.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
5. Vance is a million times worse than Trump and he's got the house and senate
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:08 AM
Nov 2024

careful what you wish for.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
10. It's Cute
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:35 AM
Nov 2024

How insanely horrible and corrupt TFG is, but we're supposed to look on the bright side that JD is not the president.

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
23. He is one of the ones the Christofascists want but my money would be on Mike Johnson.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 2024

Vance is Catholic, while Johnson is a Protestant Christian reconstructionist.

BannonsLiver

(20,603 posts)
12. I think his health may preclude another run
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:52 AM
Nov 2024

But is a piece of paper with 22 at the top going to keep him from running again if he wants to? Explain what the mechanism would be to stop him? Who would stop him? This SCOTUS? The military? If there’s no teeth behind it it’s just a piece of paper.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
15. If he makes it through 4 years.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:28 AM
Nov 2024

He’s already signaled what he wants to do by saying he shouldn’t have left the WH the first time.

Blue_Roses

(13,881 posts)
19. Trump's health is not good
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:35 AM
Nov 2024

He missed the handle of the garbage truck and in the process nearly fell. His left side, especially his leg, looked weak. I thing they are hiding just how bad his mental and physical health is. I just don't see him making it the full 4 years. He's almost 80 and half the time he doesn't know where he's at.

LisaL

(47,424 posts)
48. Very true.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:18 AM
Nov 2024

But one can last a long time with a very poor health, especially if one is getting good medical care.

valleyrogue

(2,722 posts)
21. Another possible scenario is he resigns shortly after taking office in return for a pardon.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:56 AM
Nov 2024

That's assuming he still has unresolved legal issues.

milestogo

(23,087 posts)
25. I think you mean "Trump is a Limp Dick".
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:21 PM
Nov 2024

He can't really do anything with women so he takes away their rights and abuses them.

GoCubsGo

(34,920 posts)
31. Yup, and that includes Trump's previous term.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:44 PM
Nov 2024

It was a royal fuck-up. Republicans don't care about governing. They only care about finding ways to enrich themselves, both in money and in power.

C_U_L8R

(49,394 posts)
32. Or.. he has 4 years to do whatever the fcuk he wants.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:45 PM
Nov 2024

A megalomaniacal repeat-offender unleashed, with the very worst intentions.
He's gonna be like Don Jr with a pile of cocaine and some hookers on a Saturday night in Vegas.

WarGamer

(18,616 posts)
36. IMHO, he's a TWO YEAR lame duck
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:05 PM
Nov 2024

After the 2026 mid-term, he'll resign and make Vance POTUS.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
50. Please don't start this again.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:21 AM
Nov 2024

After he won the 2016 election I was reading at DU that he wouldn't last 4 years but of course he did. The only way he won't last 4 years this time is if he dies.

Lovie777

(23,009 posts)
52. Great depression 1929 -1939.........................
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:24 AM
Nov 2024

this is where we are headed. His voters will suffer along with us.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
53. Great Depression without the New Deal
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:15 AM
Nov 2024

Billionaires and right-wing ideologues oppose spending money to benefit the masses.

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