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grobertj

(240 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:07 AM Nov 2024

A simple explanation for our loss

There’s only one reasonable explanation why our vote totals went down so much. While Trump played to his base, we did just the opposite. We went after Republicans instead of focusing on our base. Regardless of reports of high enthusiasm, our voters didn’t show up. There were many women who were extra enthusiastic, but a lot of Democrats didn’t bother to vote. Running around the country with Liz Cheney didn’t sit well with many liberals. The high water mark of the elections was the debate where Kamala eviserated Trump. Day by day her advantage slipped away.

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A simple explanation for our loss (Original Post) grobertj Nov 2024 OP
BS Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #1
Was that base the 15 million couldn't be bothered to vote? TexLaProgressive Nov 2024 #2
Nope Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #3
I'm not usually conspiracy theorist, but I believe this. phylny Nov 2024 #4
Evidence? Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #15
Another contributing factor may have been the celebrities who campaigned with her. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #5
This. Libosaurus Nov 2024 #12
Let's stop with the circular firing squad Freddie Nov 2024 #6
Maybe Marigold Nov 2024 #7
If that's true at all, it's ridiculous behavior by Democrats. hawkeye21 Nov 2024 #8
In the most critical election we have had for over a hundred years we run a doc03 Nov 2024 #9
The Harris/Walz campaign reached out to every voter, to everyone Quiet Em Nov 2024 #10
Recurring nightmare. czarjak Nov 2024 #11
Lol Libosaurus Nov 2024 #14
Democrats showed up Zeitghost Nov 2024 #13

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
3. Nope
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:11 AM
Nov 2024

Those thieves played with votes. I refuse to believe Dems are that dense not to vote. Dems are smart people and know what is at stake. What Dem would want to look at his ugly fat fucking orange face for the next few years?

Those thieves fucked with votes and suppressed them.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
15. Evidence?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 2024

I’ve seen none and I don’t think we should be like Republicans and claim a rigged election with no proof. That’s magical thinking and what the other side does.

Lonestarblue

(13,192 posts)
5. Another contributing factor may have been the celebrities who campaigned with her.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:14 AM
Nov 2024

We saw in 2016 that celebrity appearances did not help Clinton win. I don’t know that they hurt Harris, but did they help? The problem I see with celebrities is a double-edged sword. They draw attention to the campaign, but they also help portray the Democrats as elitists, which is a common accusation by Republicans and their voters.

One of the takeaways so far is that too many working class voters have turned against Democrats. If this is true, then celebrities on the campaign trail may add to this perception.

Freddie

(10,039 posts)
6. Let's stop with the circular firing squad
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:22 AM
Nov 2024

That we Dems are so good at.
She lacked the one essential component of the presidency. A penis.

Marigold

(230 posts)
7. Maybe
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:23 AM
Nov 2024

It is easy to second guess after a loss. Maybe it is just as many have said, nothing could have countered the blood thirst and spectacle Trump provides and Americans crave. Supporters stayed in their own echo chamber and if they came out, didn't believe anything because it is all "fake news". If anyone not in that sphere wasn't motivated by just seeing Trump in the media and the details of Project 2025, and didn't bother to vote, what one thing would change that? If you are not motivated by saving democracy and are blasé about losing rights, no strategy on earth is going to alter that. We have an ignorant and entitled populace, and both sides are in for a world of hurt. Unfortunately that applies to all of us.

hawkeye21

(313 posts)
8. If that's true at all, it's ridiculous behavior by Democrats.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:24 AM
Nov 2024

Having the other side join you should be a HUGE advantage. It's never happened like that before. Why would it be a negative to have an iconic GOP family like the Cheney's swallow their pride and say "Hey, the Democrats are right. Trump is scum. Don't vote for Trump."

doc03

(38,784 posts)
9. In the most critical election we have had for over a hundred years we run a
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:32 AM
Nov 2024

black women and thought along with women there were enough men she could get elected. Tim Walz was
a stereotype of how big city blue states think middle America is. We are not all from the Hatfield and
McCoy family. Sheriff Addy Taylor was a nice guy and a hell of a Sheriff in Mayberry but not one you would want
to be president.

Quiet Em

(2,519 posts)
10. The Harris/Walz campaign reached out to every voter, to everyone
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:38 AM
Nov 2024

they left no stone unturned.

czarjak

(13,420 posts)
11. Recurring nightmare.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:55 AM
Nov 2024

I thought surely we'd win this time with turnout. We due suck. When the executions start, I still want to be #1.

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