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macwriter

(257 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:58 AM Nov 2024

Listen up, MSM

Don't compound your purely awful coverage this election season of sane washing Trump by sane washing the election results.

Kamala didn't run a terrible campaign, there wasn't some seething anger about the economy.

Tell it like it is: misogyny and racism.

Own it.

Trump played you all like a banjo.

Harris and the dems ignored the working people? Seriously? That's what you're going with? She had tax plans, home business idea, health care fixes, price gouging protections and immigration reform. But you know that -- even if you hardly said a word about it because it would take precious broadcast time away from Trump's every toxic verbal fart and the latest dozen or so push polls.

But it's ok. You can take comfort in the fact that the barricades can come down. There will be no riots on January 6. One party respects the result of elections and the rule of law. The other party won so it's all good. Thanks to the Neville Chamberlains out there who were too scared or exhausted to challenge the bully and his mob, you bought yourselves 3 months of peace, if not quiet. Enjoy it. And then watch what happens next.

But don't insult our intelligence by excusing yourselves and the misogynic and racism underbelly that drove these election results and the role you played in sane washing its cult leader.

Maybe you'll even make Trump Time Magazine's Man of the Year. Yes, Man of the Year, not Person of the Year. I think we all realize now that only one gender matters. Patriarchy., women, stop whining and get with the program.

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Listen up, MSM (Original Post) macwriter Nov 2024 OP
The corporate media deserves a lot of blame for Trump's second rise Vogon_Glory Nov 2024 #1
I agree macwriter Nov 2024 #2
ProPublica.org dickthegrouch Nov 2024 #11
You know bdamomma Nov 2024 #9
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2024 #3
Certainly leaves me... 2naSalit Nov 2024 #4
You know bdamomma Nov 2024 #10
Well said! City Lights Nov 2024 #5
"Tell it like it is: misogyny and racism" Ray Bruns Nov 2024 #6
The Columbia Journalism Review: Trump wins, the press loses jayschool2013 Nov 2024 #7
You can have a great message, but if you don't counter false ones and you don't deliver your message via the right Native Nov 2024 #8

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
1. The corporate media deserves a lot of blame for Trump's second rise
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:11 AM
Nov 2024

I won’t forget or forgive.

I’m not willing to forego using the corporate news media for certain forms of news coverage, but I’ve come to believe that the networks, the newspaper chains, WaPo and the gray lady are as unreliable and untrustworthy as anything emitting from Russia, China and Orban’s Hungary.

We need a Radio Free America.

dickthegrouch

(4,528 posts)
11. ProPublica.org
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:42 PM
Nov 2024

Just found them recently. No punches pulled. Data based reporting and analysis.
BBC is my other go-to.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
9. You know
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:16 PM
Nov 2024

there are other news sources to check out. Free speech TV, Keith Olbermann,, BBC, Randi Rhodes, Dr. Mary Trump. I think we will have to protect and support them. I have had my TV off since election night.

Has anyone turned into Lawrence O'Donnell is he reporting fairly, and Joy Reid? Favorites for me.

2naSalit

(102,808 posts)
4. Certainly leaves me...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:53 PM
Nov 2024

Looking for better sources though I find international news far more informative. Have for decades. I have several friends from other countries and they showed me how bad the US news services are a long time ago.


bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
10. You know
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:20 PM
Nov 2024

they do have better news in other countries. The citizens there are more in tune with American politics than we are (some not all). I can imagine what they think of us now. And it's probably not good.

City Lights

(25,830 posts)
5. Well said!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:30 PM
Nov 2024

I cancelled my subscription to the WaPo and the NYTimes and opted for The Guardian for now.

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
7. The Columbia Journalism Review: Trump wins, the press loses
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:59 PM
Nov 2024
A second Trump administration is poised to be devastating to journalism.

November 6, 2024
By Kyle Paoletta

ince he entered politics, a decade ago, Donald Trump has castigated journalists for their skepticism and independence, calling the media “the enemy of the people,” a “threat to democracy,” “fake,” and “crooked bastards” whom he vows to prosecute. Now that he has secured a second term, he will be free to make good on his promises. Already, during his first term, the Department of Justice conducted surveillance of reporters and charged Julian Assange with espionage; regulators seemingly sought to block a merger of AT&T and TimeWarner as retribution for critical coverage by CNN; the White House arbitrarily denied access to veteran journalists. All of that fostered an environment of media suppression, leading to more than six hundred physical attacks on journalists nationwide in 2020 alone. Trump has welcomed the violence. “To get to me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news,” he told a crowd in Pennsylvania this week. “I don’t mind that so much.”

Next year, Trump’s assault on the press will become a fusillade of discrete attempts to quash whatever reporting he views as antagonistic. Access to the West Wing will be limited, perhaps by aides only credentialing journalists from conservative outlets—or even closing the White House briefing room outright. More consequential are the plans of Trump and his allies to turn the Department of Justice and the Federal Communications Commission against the media, which will entail a raft of leak investigations, the politicization of broadcast licenses and antitrust litigation, and the potential indictment of journalists for espionage. Reporters covering protests and immigration enforcement will face detention from not just local police, but the Department of Homeland Security. It’s possible that Trump may even seek congressional action to reform libel laws or otherwise criminalize dissent.

This onslaught against the press will be destabilizing. Rather than wilt under the pressure, the news media needs to use the next two months to prepare for all the potential challenges we will face in 2025.

In the early weeks of the new administration, the most urgent threat against the press will be the prosecution of reporters covering mass demonstrations. When Trump was inaugurated in 2017, nine journalists were arrested while covering the protest that ensued in Washington, DC, including several who were charged with rioting. That set a tone for the next four years, over which more than two hundred reporters faced criminal charges for covering protests. The vast majority of those charges came in 2020, after the police murder of George Floyd, as journalists scrambled to chronicle the racial-justice protests that seized the nation. According to Kirstin McCudden of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, it was a year of unprecedented attacks, with a “record shattering” six hundred and forty assaults on journalists, and nearly a hundred and fifty arrested.

Native

(7,359 posts)
8. You can have a great message, but if you don't counter false ones and you don't deliver your message via the right
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:06 PM
Nov 2024

channels, you're spitting in the wind. Trump had ads on YouTube almost nonstop. We had none. Trump had years to drill his false messages into voters heads, we had a few months to get ours out, counter his, and try to convince people we would really try to do what we said we'd do. Social media is where the vast majority of people go for their news. Trump's campaign saturated social media. We barely registered a presence.

I hold the media responsible for Trump 1.0 and 2.0, but that doesn't mean they got everything wrong. Based on the votes this cycle, I think our party has to be open to all criticisms from all corners and take a good, long & hard look at what we are doing if we want to remain relevant.

That said, in a normal world, buyer's remorse would be so bad that we may not even need a message next time, assuming we get a next time. One that doesn't require overthrowing a dictator that is.

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