I'm 42 years old. Joe Biden is the greatest President in my lifetime.

[joshcryer]

Sorry not sorry Obama. But Joe owned it. Did so much. Crushed it. Historians will see his Presidency as the greatest most transformative most powerful Presidency in the last century. I am not expressing hyperbole. Joe Biden is my favorite President period.

[obamanut2012]

1. I just turned 59, and I agree

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. I am older and I agree that President Joe Biden is the best POTUS of my lifetime

[JI7]

3. We must make sure Biden and Democrats get credit for the positive things

he had done and which will start showing up over time. Things like the infrastructure projects.

[joshcryer]

5. It will be self-evident as Trump ruins the country, trust me.

And the 2028 Democrat will win all 50 states with ease.

[JI7]

12. I'm not sure about that. Trump will claim the various

projects around the country are becsuse of him . Just like how Republicans that voted against the bill run ads taking credit for the work being done.

[joshcryer]

14. Historians will not give them that though.

Sure there will be a shill historian who doesn't know shit. But history is written. There is no denying Joe's legacy.

[krkaufman]

35. I'd think we'd all know better ...

… than to trust in anything being self-evident at this point.

[FalloutShelter]

4. Soon to be 71 and he is the bast President in my lifetime.

Second best Barack. These are my heroes of the Republic.

[calimary]

39. Mine too.

And I’m old enough to have lived through quite a few presidents.

I love Joe Biden. I’m gonna miss him. A LOT.

[Wicked Blue]

6. 72, and I agree

Joe Biden is a statesman

Just watched his speech live from the Rose Garden. He pledged a peaceful transfer of power among other things.

This is extremely important; it draws a sharp contrast to the whining, lawsuits and the violent insurrection attempt when the 'pukes lost four years ago.

[joshcryer]

15. His speech from the Rose Garden is what prompted my post.

He is truly the last great President in my lifetime. I do hope someone else comes to replace him before I die. But I have seen it and am proud of it. God Bless Joe Biden.

[Scubamatt]

25. I agree but

We are the only ones who see and appreciate the contrast. The other side ONLY responds to aggression/power - they see what JB did as a sign of weakness not strength. And the media plays into that because conflict scores clicks (and plays into their both sides do it meme). Let's face it, in America, being nice and playing by the rules gets you nowhere.

[Emile]

7. 73 and I also agree.

[kerouac2]

8. problem is he/we don't take credit for all the great stuff

but they take credit for results of our stuff and don't get blamed for all their bad stuff.

Unfortunately, Biden likely will never get the amount of credit he deserves during his lifetime. Unless we drill it into everyone's heads as Trump wreaks havoc.

[CanonRay]

9. Joe did a very good job, especially on the economy

I will note one major failing, however...Merrick Garland as AG. We are in this shit sauce because Garland failed in his primary duty.

[da svenster]

10. 57 here and i agree as well

brandon - dark or otherwise - came to chew bubble gum and kick some ass.

and he ran out of bubble gum.

thankfully to all of us, he did not run out of ice cream.

best. president. ever. or at least since i cast my first presidential vote in 1988.

[BeyondGeography]

11. Unfortunately he will be mostly remembered for not turning the page on Trump

The very good stuff, like the Chips Act and the component parts of the Inflation Reduction Act, will be a footnote to the guy who preceded and succeeded him. Trump will obviously not go down as the better President but in failing to prevent his return Biden has guaranteed that he will be far more consequential.

[joshcryer]

17. Nah, historians go deeper. They live for that.

Joe's legacy will be a strong statesman in a war he didn't create with a life he conjured and a state he upheld and an economy he blew up. He will be long understood as the latent President who did more than any before him in a Congress that was divided. Historians are going to write books about this guy. He did it. He did the job. And he did it very well.

[Botany]

13. 67 and he is without a doubt the best President of my lifetime

One of the projects that Joe has worked on:

HHS Hosts First-Ever ‘Food is Medicine’ Summit, Launches Three Public-Private Partnerships

On Tuesday, January 31, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) hosted its first-ever Food is Medicine summit in Washington, D.C., an all-day summit for stakeholders at the intersection between food and health. Secretary Xavier Becerra (pronounced Ha-vee-air Beh-sehr-rah) opened the summit by announcing three new public-private partnerships with Instacart, Rockefeller Foundation, and Feeding America. All three partnerships will support HHS’s nutrition goals.

******

HHS, Department of Ag, The Rockefeller Foundation, Instacart,& Feeding America working together
to end hunger.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2024/02/02/hhs-hosts-first-ever-food-medicine-summit-launches-three-public-private-partnerships.html

[UpInArms]

16. At 67, I concur

Biden has shown everyone how to govern, how to lead and how to care.

[joshcryer]

19. Joe cares.

The most caring President since Carter. Watch his Rose Garden speech.

[BigmanPigman]

18. I know it!!!!!

He will never get the full credit for what he has achieved. I have been pissed off since July.

[joshcryer]

20. I promise you historians will see him favorably. He is a great man.

And facts can't be denied.

[BigmanPigman]

22. That makes me feel better.

I hope he realizes it himself, too.

[Lasher]

36. They already do.

In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call

February 19, 2024

President Biden is in a tight race to keep former President Donald Trump from reclaiming the White House, recent polls show. But that's not how 154 historians and presidential experts see it: They rate Biden in the top third of U.S. presidents, while Trump ranks dead last.

The 2024 edition of the Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey has Biden in 14th place, just ahead of Woodrow Wilson and Ronald Reagan. Trump comes in 45th, behind fellow impeachee Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan, the perennial cellar-dweller in such ratings due to his pre-Civil War leadership.

"While partisanship and ideology don't tend to make a major difference overall, there are a few distinctions worth noting," said political scientists Brandon Rottinghaus of the University of Houston and Justin S. Vaughn of Coastal Carolina University, who first published their greatness survey in 2015.

Experts responding to the survey who self-identified as conservatives rated Biden No. 30, while liberals put him 13th and moderates ranked him 20th. All three of those same groups ranked Trump, whose presidency was marked by his flouting of historical norms, in the bottom five.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/19/1232447088/historians-presidents-survey-trump-last-biden-14th

[joshcryer]

46. Thank you for that wonderful, affirmative, article!

[Trust_Reality]

21. At 80...

I just want to say... a world class con man with a lifetime of appeasement and successful bullying has easily beaten the best presidential candidate I have seen in my lifetime.

[joshcryer]

23. You win this thread so far!

[onecaliberal]

40. To be fair he didn't do it. The media and Russia and all of his accoutrements did.

[NCjack]

24. Wait, Wait -- at 83

I regard Joe as the best POTUS.

[joshcryer]

47. Winner winner kitchen dinner!

How I wish to live as long as you guys. I wish to live as long and see our next few Presidents. I hope for another Clinton style guy or gal in the office! We will come back. It is the nature of our system. The Founding Fathers assured that.

[Initech]

26. We're going from that to the literal death of democracy and a fascist, one party dictatorship.

[joshcryer]

29. It's gonna be OK, I promise.

The forefathers built a system that can't be contained.

[OLDMDDEM]

27. I'm 77 years old. Biden is 2nd to Bill Clinton in my lifetime. Both of them were great.

[joshcryer]

30. I was a kid when Bill was in office, but I feel he was just OK.

I supported his war in Kosovo but otherwise he didn't do too much. Obama passed the ACA sure but Biden kept this country together and resided over the most powerful stock market in history and lowest unemployment rate. Biden crushed it.

[Attilatheblond]

28. 71 here at my desk, and I concur

[EnergizedLib]

31. What I don't understand is

How 2017-2021 feel so excruciatingly long, he’s about to wind down a presidency that’s gone by in an eye-blink, and now we’re back to another long four years?

[TBF]

32. As a 58-yr old I'm going to stick w/Obama as my fave -

mainly because I have an autoimmune condition, and I am grateful for how hard he worked on insurance for average folks.

Runners Up: Clinton and Biden for doing the best they could (Clinton tried like heck to bring peace to the Middle East); Biden did an amazing job pulling us out of the pandemic, despite what the Trump supporting morons think.

* And a note about Jimmy Carter - had a hard time in the role but he really was a good person. How many, in their elderly years, will be giving back like he did with Habitat?

I've seen really bad ones too - I remember when Nixon resigned. Reagan was awful, and Bush Sr. was a snake. Bush the younger was completely incompetent. We all know who the very worst one is.

[joshcryer]

37. The ACA was in many ways a miracle.

The problem was Obama pushed it through. This pissed them off to no ends. Which is why I felt he should have done more (public option etc).

Obama's lack of tradition is why he is bumped down for me. I respect and am grateful for what he did, don't get me wrong, but it made people mad as fuck. And now look where we are.

Biden is and was a great leader.

[Montauk6]

45. Speaking of Carter...

If he was as "terrible" a President as the other side paints him as, why oh WHY did Ronald Reagan need an October Surprise to insure a victory?

But...... then again, by many accounts, incumbent Richard Nixon was a popular POTUS by '72, and that wasn't good enough, he had to knock over the Hotel Watergate.

Maybe it's a disease suffered by Republican prezes?

[joshcryer]

48. Carter was a great, great man. And I would still place him top ten.

But I wasn't alive when he was President so I can't place him in my category. If I was alive then he would definitely be top three. Look ay this economy and this labor rate. Joe Biden is CRUSHING it. And as soon as Trump is in, it's going to crash so damn hard. He has no idea what he's done.

[jaxexpat]

33. I thought Al Gore was great too. He only made one mistake. He didn't fight hard enough for the office.

[joshcryer]

38. This site was FOUNDED because of Gore.

I wish he fought harder.

[jaxexpat]

42. Quite right, joshcryer, his "giving up" harkened the current lawless era.

The ambitious Republicans of that time couldn't believe their luck to have come upon such acquiescence. They wasted no time capitalizing on the use of web-based propaganda. The first time I ever heard of NewsMax was when they had somebody parading around with a sign of a stick among the variously mixed pickets and fake groups of protesters outside the Palm Beach County election headquarters recount.

[joshcryer]

49. Ironically, I believe Trump won in part because of kids conceived back then.

A lot of "zoomer" kids came of age and boom, voted for the creep, because that was what they were taught and raised on. It's heartbreaking. But what can you do?

[jaxexpat]

53. The dates work. But I must confess, I have not made too great an attempt to divine the current generation's motivations.

I am not envious of their moment in history. It would not be too arcane to compare them to the generation of young adults during the great depression. A hard row to hoe and desultory Republican leadership with no clue of how to do anything but make things worse while blaming the victims of their criminal ineptitude.

Not an altogether good day.

[4catsmom]

34. from the best to the worst

in this election

[Polybius]

41. You were probably still playing with TMNT, but Clinton was amazing too when you were young

My favorite.

[joshcryer]

50. I love and adore Bill Clinton, don't get me wrong.

But Newt and Rove tied his hands so badly. Those pieces of shit never let him do anything.

Joe Biden, he was able to navigate the partisanship more than any President in my lifetime.

[AllaN01Bear]

43. agreed.

[CommonHumanity]

44. I agree! NT

[wryter2000]

51. 76 and I agree

[WarGamer]

52. As I say with ALL Presidential rankings... define GREAT.

I also don't like it when Historians give rankings.

What is greatness?

Is greatness the "growth" of the nation? Polk added a MASSIVE amount of land to the US... setting the stage for world superpower status.

But they rate him at #15.

Bill Clinton is actually rated higher...

JFK is rated #9 but if you're being honest... his report card should say "incomplete". He saved us from a nuclear war that unfortunately... he almost got us into.

LBJ at #8?

I guess the Vietnam War doesn't hurt him much in the rankings...

The only way to rank POTUS would be in singular categories.

Best Oral Communicator
Best Written Communicator
Most Knowledgable
Most Energetic
Hardest Working

stuff like that.

[joshcryer]

54. Greatness for me is accomplishments.

And I feel Biden did the most things under any President in the last 42 years.

[mvd]

55. K&R

Most progressive President of my lifetime. I am a Bernie guy but realize it will likely take steps to have someone that progressive. Kamala would have been even more progressive than Biden IMO and it is a shame we won’t see her Presidency.