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malaise

(278,458 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:03 PM Nov 7

THIS

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

H.L. Mencken, in the Baltimore Evening Star on July 25, 1920: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

Newspaper clip here
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

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THIS (Original Post) malaise Nov 7 OP
Nailed it Pas-de-Calais Nov 7 #1
H.L. Mencken was great in his time and still reads true. Narcissistic. Jeez, couldn't be more spot on. MMBeilis Nov 7 #2
"Narcissistic" wasn't Mencken's word. Harker Nov 7 #9
Added original clip link malaise Nov 7 #12
I've been reading Mencken since the 70s... Harker Nov 7 #16
so, what is the actual quote? msfiddlestix Nov 7 #17
Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced... Harker Nov 7 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author dpibel Nov 8 #32
So......I stand "corrected"? MMBeilis Nov 7 #19
Not at all. The description fits Trumpsky well. n/t Harker Nov 7 #22
Harker stands corrected? dpibel Nov 8 #33
You misunderstood. Harker isn't "I" in this case, it's me. MMBeilis Nov 8 #38
Words of wisdom. multigraincracker Nov 7 #3
The strength, or the weakness markodochartaigh Nov 7 #4
WHOA!!! Jean Genie Nov 7 #5
Yep. 100% truth relayerbob Nov 7 #6
original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun Kali Nov 7 #7
You are correct malaise Nov 7 #11
Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest niyad Nov 7 #14
what is the corrected quote? msfiddlestix Nov 7 #18
last sentence at link Kali Nov 7 #20
After the last comma, it reads: dpibel Nov 8 #31
thank you! And yeah, that's a close descriptor of what's happened, but a little too kind. It's much worse, msfiddlestix Nov 9 #39
But why did it have to happen in *my* lifetime? EnergizedLib Nov 7 #8
You apparently haven't read Tolkein. malthaussen Nov 8 #29
That is amazing foresight . surfered Nov 7 #10
Ouch. rubbersole Nov 7 #13
KNR. There was also his comment about not going broke underestimating niyad Nov 7 #15
He Left off the word 'twice' Conjuay Nov 7 #21
An oldie but a goodie. Thanks. (no text) returnee Nov 8 #24
Wow! Martin68 Nov 8 #25
Yes. cilla4progress Nov 8 #26
Actually, Trump was right...America IS a shithole country. world wide wally Nov 8 #35
This certainly applies to 2016. It DOES NOT describe 2024.... AZ8theist Nov 8 #27
Got this one right. republianmushroom Nov 8 #28
Mr Mencken was a journo... malthaussen Nov 8 #30
There are so many good things in this. Orange Buffoon Nov 8 #34
Indeed malaise Nov 8 #37
Ah yes PatSeg Nov 8 #36

Harker

(15,101 posts)
16. I've been reading Mencken since the 70s...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:40 PM
Nov 7

and it can be frustrating.

When he nailed one, though, he nailed it good and hard!

Harker

(15,101 posts)
23. Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:57 PM
Nov 7

And the quote is at the very end.

I trust you'll forgive my not pecking it out one fingered on my phone.

Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #17)

dpibel

(3,389 posts)
33. Harker stands corrected?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:09 PM
Nov 8

Harker is correct.

The actual quote, reproduced at the link, is: "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

Or did I misunderstand your post as to who stands corrected?

markodochartaigh

(2,212 posts)
4. The strength, or the weakness
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:02 PM
Nov 7

of democracy is that sooner or later the people get the government that they deserve.

Kali

(55,829 posts)
7. original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:11 PM
Nov 7


https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

apologies for being pedantic, truly, I may be on this kick for a while. the forces of misinformation and inaccuracy have taken over the country and I just feel like I am going to be annoying everyone I know with corrections.


edit, also looks like it was on the 26th

niyad

(120,395 posts)
14. Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:33 PM
Nov 7

explanations of how we got here.

msfiddlestix

(7,839 posts)
39. thank you! And yeah, that's a close descriptor of what's happened, but a little too kind. It's much worse,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:46 AM
Nov 9

malthaussen

(17,738 posts)
29. You apparently haven't read Tolkein.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 8

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

-- Mal

cilla4progress

(25,968 posts)
26. Yes.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:38 AM
Nov 8

I posted yesterday that America is a joke and a lie.

I should add circus, led by an unserious and very damaged man.

malthaussen

(17,738 posts)
30. Mr Mencken was a journo...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:53 AM
Nov 8

... he made a living writing stuff like that. Very funny and cynical, but ultimately a bit nihilistic for a grownup's tastes. That doesn't mean he was wrong -- in fact, his very nihilism would have enabled him to see things most didn't because they were too invested in the symbolism.

-- Mal

Orange Buffoon

(209 posts)
34. There are so many good things in this.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:52 PM
Nov 8

(It's the first time I have read the entire thing.) In particular:
"But when a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense: he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even comprehending any save the most elemental—men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack, or count himself lost."

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