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Coexist

(26,202 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:44 PM Nov 7

51% of Americans DID NOT vote for the felon

64.54 percent of the 245,741,673 eligible had cast ballots for a total of 158,549,000.

So he won 51% of 64.54% of eligible voters.

That is 32% of eligible voters voted for the felon.

That's it 32%. So when you think about it, we don't have to peel of ANYONE from the felon, we need to find ways to engage some of the rest.
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51% of Americans DID NOT vote for the felon (Original Post) Coexist Nov 7 OP
Weird that we never show this for all elections. jimfields33 Nov 7 #1
I think we should! Coexist Nov 7 #8
It would be cool just to see numbers and percentages. jimfields33 Nov 7 #9
We don't show it because it's irrelevant and meaningless. TwilightZone Nov 7 #13
The Electoral College gives us minority rule dlk Nov 7 #2
So there are 17 million Democrats willing to vote for a man and not a woman? Eliot Rosewater Nov 7 #3
What we don't know about non-voters could hurt us in the butt. GreenWave Nov 7 #4
Yes, you canvas for where they lean first before you engage. But its another strategy Coexist Nov 7 #6
They're a tough group LeftInTX Nov 7 #10
Some political research include all voters, whether they vote or not. TwilightZone Nov 7 #14
and votes are still being counted in California. JohnSJ Nov 7 #5
Between Harris and that other person................. Lovie777 Nov 7 #7
72 mil to 68 mil so far Coexist Nov 7 #11
The tallies don't tell as much of the story as the comparisons to 2020 do. TwilightZone Nov 7 #15
Counting everyone who stayed home as anti-Trump doesn't make any sense. TwilightZone Nov 7 #12
Yeah. That is a good way to look at it. n/t hlthe2b Nov 7 #16
Delays getting absentee ballots was a problem. Nt lostnfound Nov 7 #17
Most people hate his guts Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #18
Something doesn't seem right to me. I thought registration was up on both sides? Jit423 Nov 7 #19
I wish I could. I got nothing, truly. It feels off, especially the New York State delay in call Coexist Nov 7 #20

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
13. We don't show it because it's irrelevant and meaningless.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 7

People who stayed home and didn't vote have no say, no influence, and no impact on the race, beyond perhaps helping Trump win. Even that is arguable, because we don't know how they would split, beyond polls of all adults that showed it about 50/50.

dlk

(12,448 posts)
2. The Electoral College gives us minority rule
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:46 PM
Nov 7

No other country in the world has one and it keeps us indentured to the few.

GreenWave

(9,320 posts)
4. What we don't know about non-voters could hurt us in the butt.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:48 PM
Nov 7

Are they dormant Maga who will only vote if we wake them up? Are they alienated? Etc. I say study the non-voters and see why. They may vote red more than Blue.

LeftInTX

(30,306 posts)
10. They're a tough group
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 7

Must less willing to answer their doors etc. Phone numbers are not reliable etc.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
14. Some political research include all voters, whether they vote or not.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:00 PM
Nov 7

They tend to split about the way voters do. Pew and Gallup often provide data on all voters.

Example: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-partisanship-and-ideology-of-american-voters/

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
15. The tallies don't tell as much of the story as the comparisons to 2020 do.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:05 PM
Nov 7

Harris is at 68.1 million and will get another few million from CA.

Biden got 81.2 million votes in 2020.

Trump is at 72.8 million and will get another couple million from CA.

Trump got 74.2 million votes in 2020.

Trump will probably exceed his 2020 total. Harris will probably fall 7-8 million short of Biden's 2020 total.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
12. Counting everyone who stayed home as anti-Trump doesn't make any sense.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 7

One has a right to vote in this country (for the most part). If one chooses not to vote, they don't register an opinion either way. It can't just be argued that they all voted against Trump by proxy. In fact, since everyone knows the threat Trump represents, the exact opposite could be argued. Their decision to stay home helped enable Trump to win.

Neither is really true. Those of us who voted represent those who did not, simply because they didn't bother. The same applies to our elected representatives. They represent everyone, not just those who bothered to show up.

Polls of all registered voters - and of all adults and not just voters - usually show the nation at roughly 50/50*, when leaners are included. Just because 1/3 didn't show up doesn't mean that they don't have an opinion. If you're arguing that only 1/3 of the country "really" supports Trump, that assertion is false.

* https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-partisanship-and-ideology-of-american-voters/

Jit423

(380 posts)
19. Something doesn't seem right to me. I thought registration was up on both sides?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:29 PM
Nov 7

Also wasn't mail-in and early voting up on both sides? What am I missing? Did that many people ask for mail-in and not send them in? And did that many people register only to not vote? Was it only the Democrats that failed to show up in the numbers expected? Why not?

The final numbers do not match the energy and excitement on the Dem side. It just doesn't feel right that so many did not follow through on voting. And tell me if I read the final data thus far incorrectly. The down turn in was mostly in the heaviest blue wall states of PA, WI, in addition to GA?
I'm just trying to wrap my head around the numbers coming out today. The numbers I find most unbelievable are PA in the Philly and surrounding areas.

Help me out

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
20. I wish I could. I got nothing, truly. It feels off, especially the New York State delay in call
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:31 PM
Nov 7

that's really freaking weird. and I don't believe it for a sec

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