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LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:10 PM Nov 2024

It was no great win. Not a landslide

He barely beat a Black lady by maybe a million votes.

Toss about 10 votes at each precinct and you have a winner. Or just burn them and you have a winner.

Inflation: Look, a snack that I buy, a frigging snack that can't cost aother 10 cents to make over the last few years has gone from $2 to $3.48. a 75% increase. But did Harris notice? She never said anything about that. She didn't go after the corporation that inflated that snack.

She also didn't say much about climate change or medicare for all. Bernie is right, she did not address much about the facts of life of the working class.

She did slide to the Cheneys and Haley. She glad handed the Hollywood crowd. She talked a lot about abortion that only 10% really cared about and they were on her side the whole way.

Her opponent did talk some shit, telling lies that went right to the working class, and he got away with it because no one callled him on it, certainly not the free press.

Harris did not make headlines. She never called out the msm. But her opponent did, calling the press an enemy.

And before all the votes were counted she quit. Her opponent never quit.

All in all she should have cleaned his clock. But she didn't.

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It was no great win. Not a landslide (Original Post) LiberaBlueDem Nov 2024 OP
Yep Polybius Nov 2024 #1
She quit? TwilightZone Nov 2024 #2
One third of the electorate stayed home A HERETIC I AM Nov 2024 #3
One third of the electorate always stays home. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #7
wow - 250k votes short between Mich, PA, and Wisc RealFloridaDem Nov 2024 #4
Interesting, because we'd still lose the Popular Vote, even with 250k more votes Polybius Nov 2024 #10
Can you imagine if the 270 compact was in place? jimfields33 Nov 2024 #11
My, how the tables have turned. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #13
I personally think it's unconstitutional Polybius Nov 2024 #14
I was thinking today about Perot and his graphs MacKasey Nov 2024 #5
That would have made headlines LiberaBlueDem Nov 2024 #9
Wow! niyad Nov 2024 #6
I'll hone in on one point orange jar Nov 2024 #8
"Most people either hate the Cheneys or have no clue who they are" TwilightZone Nov 2024 #12

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
2. She quit?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:16 PM
Nov 2024

She conceded because the election had been called and the result was clear and obvious. That's what reasonable people do.

Most of the rest of your assertions are simply false. I have no idea where you got any of it. You must have been watching a different election.

She went hard after corporations.

She talked extensively about health care and presented plans for expanding it.

She talked extensively about climate change.

She quite assuredly made headlines.

She should have acted like Trump, thrown tantrums, and called the media the enemy?

What a load of shit.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,871 posts)
3. One third of the electorate stayed home
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:20 PM
Nov 2024

I’ll wait for the final tally, but it looks like only about a third of Americans voted for Trumpy. If the non voters had bothered, this conversation wouldn’t be happening.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
7. One third of the electorate always stays home.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:23 PM
Nov 2024

Nothing new and we should stop expecting it to change. Many, many people are simply apolitical.

"only about a third of Americans voted for Trumpy" "If the non voters had bothered"

There's no basis for the latter and the former is meaningless.

Polls of all registered voters - and of all adults and not just voters - usually show the nation at roughly 50/50*, when leaners are included. Just because 1/3 didn't show up doesn't mean that they don't have an opinion. If you're arguing that only 1/3 of the country "really" supports Trump, that assertion is false. If the non-voters had shown up and were 50/50, the outcome would have been the same.

* https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-partisanship-and-ideology-of-american-voters/



RealFloridaDem

(22 posts)
4. wow - 250k votes short between Mich, PA, and Wisc
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:21 PM
Nov 2024

Roland Martin broke it all the way down.. we lost this by literally 250k votes..

250k votes short and we now have a lunatic in office.. smh

Polybius

(21,643 posts)
10. Interesting, because we'd still lose the Popular Vote, even with 250k more votes
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:10 PM
Nov 2024

Part of me would like winning without the PV.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
11. Can you imagine if the 270 compact was in place?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:14 PM
Nov 2024

California would be forced to turn red and a bunch of other states.

MacKasey

(1,501 posts)
5. I was thinking today about Perot and his graphs
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:22 PM
Nov 2024

Kamala needed to do a dog and pony show with some graphs like Perot did, a picture is worth a thousand words

And send it as a text with a link
But don't ask for money for those

Or a cartoon or short film with kids explaining climate change, greed inflation, health care but at level design for kids so the older kids will get it thru their heads

orange jar

(878 posts)
8. I'll hone in on one point
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:27 PM
Nov 2024

and say that I agree that the Cheneys didn't help. I'm not upset that they voted for her, obviously — but inviting Liz Cheney to speak at a pro-Democratic rally was… not the best decision ever made. Most people either hate the Cheneys or have no clue who they are.

Glad they were on our side, but didn't really love their endorsements being touted as heavily as they were. They are very unpopular figures (not just in the eyes of Trumpers, either).

To be fair, I don't think this was even in the Top 5 reasons why Harris lost. I just don't think it helped one iota.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
12. "Most people either hate the Cheneys or have no clue who they are"
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:15 PM
Nov 2024

Anyone who watched the January 6th hearings was quite familiar with Liz Cheney.

About 18-20 million watched the prime-time versions, on par with a Sunday Night Football game.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2022/07/09/the-january-6-hearings-are-the-best-television-series-of-the-summer/

One idea behind the GOP endorsements was likely to attempt to build a coalition like that of President Biden, who had lots of independents, moderates, and some Republicans vote for him. It doesn't appear to have been as successful.

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