2016, 2020, 2024 Presidential Vote Totals

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Last edited Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)

2016 Hillary 66 million Trump 63 million


2020 Biden 81 million Trump 74 million


2024 Harris 69 million Trump 73 million (So far...)

[TwilightZone]

1. CA is still reporting. Several million more from there to come.

They're at 59%.

Final numbers will be probably be in the neighborhood of 73 million Harris to 76 million for Trump.

Trump will exceed his 2020 total. Harris will be roughly 7 million short of Biden's 2020 coalition, which included a lot of independents, moderates, and some Rs.

[rurallib]

2. I have been noodling on these numbers since Wednesday

No matter how you slice it the vote total will be down significantly and almost entirely in the Democratic column.

Very little has been said about voter purges that took place in states like Georgia.

And this loss of votes comes amidst reports of "largest turnout ever" and reports of blocs of women and immigrants coming out in huge numbers, Trump's horrible performance during the campaign

Can't help myself, something doesn't line up here. But I have no way of investigating.

So call me a conspiracy theorist - it just doesn't add up.

[TwilightZone]

3. The reports of the "largest turnout ever" were false.

There was record *early* voting in some states. Not everywhere and not total turnout. The GOP pushed early voting heavily for the first time in decades, and that was part of it. In Florida alone, they had a one-million vote edge over Democrats in early voting.

There was a lot of garbage floating around DU for the past two weeks, and it set up some highly unrealistic expectations. The reports of 10% crossover were false and based on faulty data. The claims that women who were early voting were predominantly Democrats were false. The claims that Democrats were dominating early voting were based on faulty data and assumptions.

We need to better vet our sources and better analyze grandiose claims. Some random guy on X is not a valid source without outside corroboration.

There are no easy answers, but just looking at the totals, it's obvious that Harris wasn't able to replicate the coalition-building Biden did in 2020. There's a lot more to it than that, but that one is clear.

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5. Thanks, I edited my original post to say the 2024 votes are "so far"

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4. 2024 totals are not yet available. Nt