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SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:26 AM Nov 2024

The Democratic Party Needs To Go 100% Dark

It obviously won’t happen. There is not enough courage for them to completely withdraw, but it’s the only solution we have for the long term.

Quit with this figuring out what went wrong bullshit. Quit telling me we need to regroup and fight another day. I don’t want to hear that, and I don’t plan to fight a battle that has already been decided. We are not going to see a single policy that is worth supporting. EVERY SINGLE BILL our side proposes will be DOA. Our party’s leaders need to accept that. There is ZERO doubt that is what At Least the next 2 years holds.

The ONLY chance we have to eventually move forward, and is still by no means, guaranteed, is to let the Assholes across the aisle, own everything, lock, stock and barrel.

Don’t waste time showing up to Congress for useless debates. Quit saying we want to help people. The majority of people have spoken, and they don’t want our help. They’re laughing in our faces. The ones who do want it, and voted for us, are screwed either way. Every beneficial policy we put forth will be a losing policy.

Let them have what they want. Let every Senate vote be 53-0. Let every House vote be 225-0. Don’t just let them own the fuckstorm, because it’s coming either way. LET THEM OWN IT!! Have the left side of the House chamber be completely empty for The State Of The Union.

I am done wasting my time or effort on this shithole of a country. The only respect I’ll have for our party, would be if we show the people that THEY OWN EVERYTHING that happens these next 2-4 years. I won’t think any less of our leaders, in fact, I’ll think more.

The game is now rigged. Sometimes you got to know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. As the computer said at the end of the movie “War Games,” “Strange game, the only way to win, is not to play.”

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SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
2. Will Anything We Present, Even Make It To A Vote?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 2024

Don’t they control what makes it to a vote?

LiberalArkie

(19,891 posts)
8. I doubt it... If I was a senator, I would just clock in every morning and fire up an Xbox for the rest of the day.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 2024

Of course I would have to go to the floor every so often and "Abstain" when voting

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
9. Is There Any Point In Even Showing Up?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:52 AM
Nov 2024

They don’t legally have to abstain, do they?

And can bills pass if a quorum isn’t present? Could they throw our entire party’s members in jail under contempt charges for not showing up?

LiberalArkie

(19,891 posts)
10. Who knows. Never been done in mass. Probably not, but I think it might be fun to be a senator and anytime one
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:56 AM
Nov 2024

of the Magats begged for my vote and say nope might be something. But me I would just post a sign on my door and that simply says NOPE. Staying home or the golf course might be easier. Would not have to listen to them beg for their pet project.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
3. Resist is what we should do. I will be going out of my way to avoid buying anything "American", except of course
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

essentials like food.

For me It goes without saying I will never buy a Tesla, or any business or platform that supported these thugs.

It won't bother or impact them, but it will give me the satisfaction that I am not contributing to their wealth.





peachpie2

(27 posts)
5. THIS!!
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 2024

I was thinking this exact same thing. If this is what America wants, then that's what it gets.

If I were in a position of leadership, I would suggest that all representatives and senators go back to their districts and reach out to their constituents. Spend these next two years just finding out what they need and letting them know who you are and ask them what they can do to represent you better.

Make it personal and rebuild those connections.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
7. So be their rubber stamp?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 2024

Worse, acting like a petulant child definitely will not win over voters.

No, the best course of action is to relentlessly raise our own parallel counter proposals for everything - nice friendly moderate ones that will pressure vulnerable Pubs in the House if they choose to support the more radical Pub version.

Keep the pressure on by constantly offering viable alternatives to their extremism.

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