My picks to head the 2028 ticket

[newdayneeded]

Stacey Abrams

Kamala Harris

Michelle Obama

Sarah Mcbride.

This time we crush that glass ceiling!!

[Bettie]

1. Honestly, it breaks my heart to say it

but we can't run another woman. Probably not in my lifetime.

Misogyny is the strongest force in our nation.

We will never have a woman as president.

Plus, there probably won't be another election, he plans to be a dictator.

[democratsruletheday]

24. I couldn't agree more Bettie....

I voted for Hillary and Kamala. I worked for both and did what I could but the misogyny is too strong. I've seen it, heard it, and now lived it. Time to recalibrate folks. It's not what we want, which is so often true in life but what we must DO going forward.

[Ocelot II]

34. I agree. We won't be rid of misogyny in another four years. Maybe never.

If we run another woman candidate next time we'll lose again, assuming there's an election at all. It's going to have to be a middle-aged white guy, as much as it hurts to say that. Maybe in 50 or 100 years, if the country still exists, it might be possible. But most of us will never see it. Almost every other country in the world has had a female head of state, including some countries you wouldn't expect (e.g., Pakistan, the Philipines, Myanmar and India). But not us.

[enid602]

37. Cuts

I think it’s safe to say that we might not have another election in the conventional sense. Not unless there’s a huge reaction to Elon (it’s gonna get worse before it gets better) Musk’s promised $2 TRILLION in budget cuts. Trump voters think these tax cuts will affect welfare and foreign aid only. Wait until they see how they will personally be affected.

[LakeArenal]

102. Exactly.

Trump even said it.

[IbogaProject]

107. Here was the first article on my feed Wednesday late morning

10 Things the Middle Class Won’t Be Able To Afford in Less Than a Decade

Caitlyn Moorhead
Wed, November 6, 2024 at 11:00 AM EST 6 min read

In a world where the financial landscape is constantly shifting, the American middle class often finds itself in a precarious position.

The cost of living is increasing across the board thanks to areas such as housing, higher education and healthcare, just to name a few. People used to find that earning a standard middle-class income could still provide comfort, but now, they find themselves living paycheck to paycheck.

Caught between the affluence of the wealthy and the struggles of the lower middle-class families and economic tiers, middle-class incomes are putting individuals in steeper financial challenges that could significantly alter their lifestyle in the coming decade. When you have to battle student loans well into the age when you should have been saving for retirement, the struggle to afford any future luxuries or even necessities starts to become overwhelming.

Here are five things that, if current trends continue, may become unaffordable for the middle class in less than 10 years.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-things-middle-class-won-160004493.html

The Wealthy and the Regressives are already licking their chops for their upcoming feast.

[rurallib]

41. sadly I have come to the same conclusion after some soul searching today

disagree - there will be elections - just not Free and Fair elections

[Walleye]

76. Russian style elections

[rurallib]

78. Yep, they still have elections in Russia - that'll be the model

[Walleye]

80. After Trump won, I kept thinking "do not congratulate"

[Initech]

44. No we won't. I am in my 40s and I don't think we'll see one in my lifetime.

This country has gone completely insane. And I blame propaganda for it.

And yes, we may not have another election. It sucks.

[oldmanlynn]

49. I agree at this point, and we need to give this a rest for a couple of election

We have run women at the top of the ticket twice and lost both times and so it’s disheartens me to say this like the original poster but I think the next election we’ve got to give that a break.

[Jk23]

53. I have zero issues running a woman if she wins a competitive nomination

We have some excellent women in the Democratic party who would do great what we can do is annoit a women again because we're 0 for two on that one.

Also don't be surprised at the Republicans run a woman after Trump's term.

[StevieM]

101. Hillary was in no way annointed.

She won the nomination fair and square. Anyone who wanted to run was welcome to. Several other Democrats did seek the nomination. They had every opportunity to win, if they could. The DNC played no role in Hillary's defeat of Bernie Sanders, and the claim that they did is totally baseless and utter nonsense.

[Jersey Devil]

58. My wife said the same thing

almost word for word. What irony that we have to be misogynistic to beat misogyny.

[Mossfern]

94. We're not being misogynist

we're being strategic.
Big difference.

[Bettie]

98. "Strategic" or not making the man-babies uncomfortable?

Same thing, I guess.

[MFM008]

60. The first thing my brother said

When the election was called was that men are not going to vote for a woman and if they do it's not going to be a black woman and he supported her and voted for her I think he was just making the observation.

[exboyfil]

88. I think the first woman president will be a Republican

Probably Vance's VP.

One scenario

Trump out before end of his term
Haley confirmed as new VP
Haley runs with Vance on 2028 ticket
If win will run in 2032 as President (or 2036 if Vance becomes President before half of the Presidential term is done).

[Algernon Moncrieff]

91. True, but he's 79.

Father time is undefeated.

[RedSpartan]

100. Sadly, the first woman President will probably be Ivanka

She's his favorite and the heir apparent. And the MAGA Cult will vote for her without question, as will most "working class" men. After all, she's a hot blonde and a so successful like him!

[Freddie]

2. Wish I could be so optimistic

This country has proved we’re too backwards to elect a woman. Our next candidate needs white skin and a penis.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. The 2028 Dem nominee will be a straight, white, centrist male

Whether we like it or not.

On the bright side I also expect the VP nominee will be a Latino Male.

I’m 67, and I don’t expect to see Dems nominate another woman in my lifetime, even if I live to be 100.

[ScratchCat]

13. Al Franken

I'm serious.

[Silent Type]

35. Love Al Franken. I saw him on Bill Maher a few weeks ago, he's lost a step or two. But, he's still Al

[Jk23]

55. I love Al but he's a little old

We need to stop electing elderly people for presidential nominations.

[jimfields33]

56. He'd be 77. I know trump is 78. But will Al really want to?

[Polybius]

87. But he'd probably be running against Vance

He'll look old compared to a 44 year old.

[PhilosopherKing]

16. Does not have to be centrist

He just has to be a manly man.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. We will see what the party's big donors will allow. Nt

[MuseRider]

68. A manly man

who sometimes has his big, important meetings at your house in his man den, to keep wifey from being too curious, and where the booze is located where she cannot find it. Wifey will be preparing the cookies and non stimulating goodies. She will smile and nod her head before she leaves to put the kids to bed as the nanny is leaving for the night then she is off for an exciting meeting with dirty dishes and a roughed up house. The manly men come out of the den (such a perfect name for a place for manly men). They nod as they hand her their dishes and maybe one or two will break the usual man behaviors and tell her the cookies were great as she watches them waddle and sway to their cars. She knows most of the cookies are still there but there are a lot of glasses to be washed smelling of something they refer to as booze.

It is the perfect way of things. Men gather for important decisions that affect the women in large and often difficult ways but that is the way. Women flutter around making life as easy as possible for the men folk, after all without them our nation would fall apart, and we go to sleep (when he allows it) knowing that for the rest of our lives we are never going to have to worry our pretty little heads. *sigh* Women are so lucky.

If men only knew what we know, what we think. We can tell them but they never hear it because they don't have to or they don't think there is anything important coming from our mouths.

I have been a part of a family like that, maybe not quite that bad but it feels terrible no matter how bad it is. Probably a good many of us has especially if they are getting older (less desirable and that is good because STD's are not fun).

This is what it feels like in so many households. Where we are is much better, this was mostly my childhood and probably a lot of us grew up like that and we do not forget it. If this is all we have to look forward to we may as well disappear because I will NEVER allow myself to live in an environment like that again.

*****Some of this is true for me but most of it came from friends experiences, those older than my 70. Not far away. Could easily go back to that if we do not watch out. These particular people going into our White House have little regard for women unless you are taking his slippers off before he lays down. Silly boy, you will soil the sheets I just put on and I will have to wash them again tomorrow. *sigh*

[MuseRider]

69. I was just clearing out my mind

and did not mean to post this so make of it what you will. Just getting my anger and fear out.

[CrispyQ]

86. Eric Swalwell.

I have a bit of a crush on him.

[democratsruletheday]

26. Well said FT and I agree totally....

Your entire post is spot on, well done.

[Meadowoak]

29. Andy Beshear

He can get the red states too.

[Buckeyeblue]

51. I think Andy will be a strong candidate

Trump's administration is going to fuck up a great many things. Picking a centrist candidate to claim the middle will be strong strategy.

Whoever the fascists run in 2028 will have to own the Trump (and probably Vance) record. So they will be far right.

[Fiendish Thingy]

65. Beshear or Newsom are the likely front runners

I don’t think Beshear would carry any red states except perhaps his own, but he might have a better chance of carrying swing states than Newsom.

Newsom, however, already has more national visibility, and will almost certainly be better funded than Beshear. That might put him in better position to win the nomination but I think he would have a hard time winning the election, depending on who the fascists nominate (I don’t think it will be Vance, unless he becomes the incumbent by 2028), and what they do to voting rights between now and then.

I’m guessing they may repeal the ECRA and replace it with something more fascist friendly.

[Rstrstx]

83. Newsom will have the same liberal stereotypes to fight that Harris had

A successful male Governor from a swing or red state sounds pretty good right now

[Mark.b2]

106. I like Governors. Executive experience is a huge asset...

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Being from outside DC is good, too.

Obama notwithstanding, I would avoid anyone from the House or Senate. Experience there just doesnt mean much. It’s hard to beat having been responsible for running something (i.e. state, a company, a large organization, etc.) nd having been held accountable for results.

[radius777]

70. I think a centrist black or latino man would be better

as it would help to rebuild the Obama coalition.

Perhaps someone like Maryland governor Wes Moore.

[Fiendish Thingy]

72. I can think of tons of great candidates

But unless there is a major shift in thinking by Dem power brokers, including big donors, it’s gonna be a straight white male not named Shapiro.

[CTyankee]

82. I love Wes Moore. A real likable guy. I don't know a lot about him, tho.

Perhaps I should fine out...

[PortTack]

105. Agree...as much as we would like to see a FE POTUS. We must pick a winning ticket..if it be straight white

Male, then so be

[Gore1FL]

4. Harris won't be the nominee. Obama has no interest.

Stacy Adams is a shoe company.

Sarah McBride will have, at most, 1 complete term in the U.S House before she would have to announce.

I submit there are plenty of qualified women, but this particular list doesn’t reflect realistic expectations for 2028.

[Meadowoak]

38. We've been burned twice. We can't get a woman elected

Sorry. This country isn't ready for it, and probably never will be. Men are terrified of successful women. And women are jealous of them. Nope, it won't work.

[Du916]

89. The first female President . . .

will be a Republican. There is no way Dumbfuckistan would elect a woman who is not an aryan right-winger. There is irony in the fact that Mexico elected a woman (and a Jewish one) before the USA.

[SoCalDavidS]

5. Gretchen Would Have Been My Choice

But a Democratic Female will NEVER stand a chance during my lifetime.

[Quiet Em]

6. We have a very deep bench

There will be a few outstanding candidates in our 2028 primary.

My main concern now is how to lessen the damage in the 2026 midterms.

[Meadowoak]

43. Andy Beshear is our best shot.

[ventuckian]

7. charisma

I feel betrayed because I was hoping to hug my 87 year old mother and tell her is was glad for her to see this. I was so angry for 24 hours. Moving foward though regardless of gender we need someone charismatic and sorry to say ruthless. LBJ type ruthlessness who won't make the mistake of going against his instinct and getting into a foolish war.

[Emile]

8. I like AOC

[comradebillyboy]

33. A socialist from the Bronx should lose

at least 48 states. I am old enough to remember George McGovern.

[Ocelot II]

39. A socialist *woman* from the Bronx will lose all 50.

[Meadowoak]

45. No! We can't win with a woman.

[Voltaire2]

95. A thread where the majority view appears to be

only white men should be considered.

Sigh.

[Meadowoak]

99. We've tried twice and failed. Sorry but America isn't ready.

We have to run someone that can win. We can keep trying to fool ourselves, but it won't happen. Sorry

[BannonsLiver]

9. Say hello to 8 years of Vance in that case.

[Darwins_Retriever]

32. I think at most 6 years of Vance

Trump will not complete his term.

[BannonsLiver]

48. You may be right.

[Meadowoak]

46. Or 40.

[Polybius]

10. Did you mean Stacey Abrams?

[Meadowoak]

47. No women. We've been burned twice.

[global1]

11. Pete Butigegg....nt

[newdayneeded]

12. He'd be a great pick!

I think America will be ready!

[newdeal2]

15. Nope

He is brilliant, but nope. They will not accept a gay man as president right after electing Trump.

[democratsruletheday]

30. QFT....

just wouldn't work...and it pains me to say it

[Darwins_Retriever]

42. I wish, but nope

He is great, but if America won't take a woman, the certainly will not take a gay.

[democratsruletheday]

28. NO way to Pete...

love him but if you think this country is sexist and racist, that's nothing compared to the homophobia. My gosh....no way, I love Pete B. but it would never fly

[Meadowoak]

50. I love Pete, but the right would attack the shit out of him.

We need a straight white male, in his 40s or 50s.

[BluenFLA]

14. Apparently the only woman that might be elected would be a Republican

To test this if they nominated a woman and we nominated a man and we win then this proves this country is too misogynistic to elect a woman at least for the near future.

[Meadowoak]

54. Just forget about having a woman president, it's just never going to happen

Men are intimidated by successful women, and women are jealous of them.

[Jit423]

71. She would have to be a Stepford wife.

Niki will never be it.

[Emile]

18. I question if we'll even have a presidential election

in four years.

[tritsofme]

19. Abrams and Harris are done as national political figures. Michelle Obama has no interest.

And I don’t even know who Sarah McBride is.

[newdayneeded]

20. She's our first trangendered

senator. What a great story that would be!

[tritsofme]

23. I looked her up, she won a seat in the House not the Senate.

But sorry, maybe someday, but a first term congresswoman is just not a plausible presidential candidate.

[Initech]

59. I honestly don't blame her one bit.

It sucks, but the fucking conspiracy theory sphere would decimate Michelle Obama.

[ellemb]

64. Exactly what I was going to say.

[comradebillyboy]

66. She's someone who can lose all 50 states.

[obamanut2012]

21. It will be J. B. Pritzker

[Algernon Moncrieff]

92. I love Walz but in retrospect Pritzker might have been a better VP pick

He understands the Billionaire class.

[obamanut2012]

22. Harris is finished nationally, which is so sad

What a good President she would be.

If she is up to it, I hope she runs for CA Governor. I'd love her living back in Sac.

[Initech]

57. Fox News royally fucked her chances of being president.

They are the worst thing to happen to this country since the Civil War.

[comradebillyboy]

27. Sounds like doubling down on a losing strategy.

[Mz Pip]

31. Sheldon Whitehouse

Andy Bashear

[JustAnotherGen]

40. No

If there is another election - I would pick Fetterman.

[Diamond_Dog]

61. I think Fetterman might be a good one

He’s outspoken and takes no shit from anyone, plus he’s male.

[oldmanlynn]

52. Gavin Newsome

[boston bean]

62. Absolutely NOT!

[SKKY]

63. Ok, as much as it pains me to say this, unless Michelle Obama is up for it...

...and I am 100% sure she isn't, our nominee will have to be a man. So, with that, these are who I think are likely candidates...

Josh Shapiro
Andy Beshear
Hakeem Jeffries
JB Pritzker
Gavin Newsom
Wes Moore
Corey Booker

And I don't really care who the VP is, because we do have such a deep bench, but THEY BETTER GET SOMEONE FLUENT IN SPANISH!!!!

[Voltaire2]

67. AOC. NT.

[beaglelover]

73. Unfortunately we would lose again. The USA just is not ready yet for a woman at the top of the ticket. And if a woman

can't win there is no way a gay guy would win as much as I hate that as a fellow gay guy. We'll need to nominate a man at the top of the ticket to win in 2028. Sad but that's the reality of the USA.

[BluenFLA]

74. We have a great bench, these are my current picks

Gavin Newsom
John Fetterman
Wes Moore
Andy Beshear
Ben Ray Lujan
Ruben Gallego
Alex Padilla
J.B. Spritzer
Josh Shapiro

Unfortunately, we'll have to go with a white or Latino or Black male for now.

These women are more than qualified for being at the top of the ticket and if circumstances change they should be considered at the very least for VP

Gretchen Whitmer
Laura Kelly
Amy Klobuchar
Catherine Cortez Masto
Jasmine Crocket
AOC

To be frank they all have their drawbacks and may only wind up being VP picks, but based on past experiences the nominee will be a relative unknown like Bill Clinton or Obama that we can't conceive as running. Who knows maybe it can wind up being HI governor Josh Green for all we know. He'll, let's consider Joe Kennedy III while we're at it!

[Homoudont]

93. John Fetterman worries me

He doesn't seem to be as progressive as I thought he would be. I don't see him being a good pick.

I agree with you about a female VP but we can hope a female wins the primary and picks another female as her VP.

[TheKentuckian]

75. If he still had hair, was taller, and wasn't a ginger I'd say Bill Burr.

No, I'm not joking.

The professional politician may be almost a tough a sell as anything now.

We need to get out of the box.

[intrepidity]

77. The Rs can run a woman and win

They have the propaganda machine.

Hell, they could run a gay trans Hispanic woman and win with their machine.

[Hope22]

79. Getting ahead of ourselves a bit!

He said we will never have to vote again……

[Lotusflower70]

81. Nope

It's going to be a white man if there is a 2028 election. Perhaps Andy Beshear. There will be no more women as candidates for President. Michelle Obama doesn't want to run. I doubt VP Kamala Harris gets another shot, not if Nancy Pelosi has a say. Mcbride and Abrams have no chance. A white man beat Trump and the GOP, I have accepted that is what the party will go with

[Hope22]

85. Seriously after a long four years women may not even be voting remember.....

Project 2025 is a thing!

[Island Blue]

84. Sorry, but there will never be a female president

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in my lifetime. (I’m a 61 year old female.) It pains me to say this, but America can just not handle the concept of electing a female to the highest office in the land.

Edited to remove the last thing I said. It’s been a week for all of us and I’m struggling.

[Homoudont]

90. VP maybe

Michelle Obama wants no part of being president. I think she is the only shoe in to win it no matter who the other side runs. If she ran as a VP with someone else at the top of the ticket I think it would be a no brainer.

I really like your list except for Michelle. But I also like Elizabeth Warren and AOC on that list. An all female ticket. Imagine AOC and Michelle running. It would be unstoppable.

[JI7]

96. The top of the ticket is most likely going to be a straight white male

unless another Obama comes along and that is unlikely also.

If Harris had won I think Buttigieg would have had a good chance afterwards. But I think he will be hurt with what happened also.

[AkFemDem]

104. We're going back after the Latino vote, VEEP will be Latino.

[Jmb 4 Harris-Walz]

97. A good idea, but Michelle Obama is a no-go. She hates politics and has no desire to run for President. Nt

[AkFemDem]

103. Gonna be a man- younger... Shapiro or Beshear

Veep may be a woman, will likely be hispanic.

[jmowreader]

108. Only if we want to lose the next election, assuming there is one

What we need is a friendly, handsome 50-year-old white Marine Corps veteran with a beautiful wife, two well-behaved children, several guns and a positive track record in business and politics.

And he needs to have a reputation for fixing things the last incumbent broke because Donald Trump plans to do to the United States what the Loizeaux Brothers did to the Kingdome.

[alarimer]

109. LOL.

Each of those a non-starter.

Doing the same thing over and over again never works. No, sadly, we need our own buffoon. Kidding (kind of).

[Rhiannon12866]

110. Michelle Obama will speak out when it's important (like for Harris), but has said many times that she's put in her time

But I agree that she's a brilliant speaker.

[PragmaticLiberal]

111. Maryland Gov Wes Moore.

No doubt in my mind he's the choice.