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usedtobedemgurl

(1,922 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:38 AM Nov 2024

Do I Correctly recall someone talking about machines changing votes.

I believe during early voting, someone on this board told us a machine (not sure which state, maybe it was Florida?) changing votes. And this I am not particularly sure of, but I believe someone *may* have backed it up with another occurrence.

I have heard many people here deny anything went on, because machines were not hooked up to the internet. Does that mean whomever is in charge of the software that was used on these machines could not have messed with the program writing?

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Do I Correctly recall someone talking about machines changing votes. (Original Post) usedtobedemgurl Nov 2024 OP
There was talk. But it didn't happen. duncang Nov 2024 #1
Ok. I did not read that part. usedtobedemgurl Nov 2024 #2
I think it was just quick jump on this. duncang Nov 2024 #3
When facts came out? usedtobedemgurl Nov 2024 #4
From what I understand they tracked down the person who said there was a problem. duncang Nov 2024 #5
I guess I was not clear because I did not know there were news articles. usedtobedemgurl Nov 2024 #7
I didn't see a post duncang Nov 2024 #8
I said that on Tuesday, sorry you missed it. lark Nov 2024 #14
That may have been one story. lark Nov 2024 #15
Our bigger problem is running elections on the cheap. pat_k Nov 2024 #6
It's a feature not a bug.......n/t Hope22 Nov 2024 #9
Money Has Nothing to Do With It DET Nov 2024 #10
If a fraction of the billions we pour into elections. . . pat_k Nov 2024 #11
China gave Ivanka voting machines Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #12
Yes, and it 100% did happen to my son. lark Nov 2024 #13
Yes! It was you! usedtobedemgurl Nov 2024 #16
You've never had to go back and correct misspelled words Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #17

duncang

(3,767 posts)
1. There was talk. But it didn't happen.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:42 AM
Nov 2024

From what I understand the voter pressed the wrong one. Showed it to the poll worker and they voided it and allowed them to do it again.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
3. I think it was just quick jump on this.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:46 AM
Nov 2024

Make a bunch of noise. Then ignore it after the facts came out.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,922 posts)
4. When facts came out?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:49 AM
Nov 2024

So the OP lied when they reported it happened? How did they find out? It is not like it was an article or video. They were reporting what happened to a relative I think it was. We have a crack team to investigate our own posters lives and find out it is not true. Shame on that member for telling us their personal story and lying!!!

duncang

(3,767 posts)
5. From what I understand they tracked down the person who said there was a problem.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:52 AM
Nov 2024

And they explained what happened.

Edit:
The original post was just talking about what was first sent out by the faux and other media said.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,922 posts)
7. I guess I was not clear because I did not know there were news articles.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:59 AM
Nov 2024

This was someone’s personal story here.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
8. I didn't see a post
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:02 AM
Nov 2024

From here that said a poster here had their vote flipped. I saw a few posts about faux news and other right wing media talking about it.

lark

(25,838 posts)
14. I said that on Tuesday, sorry you missed it.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:38 AM
Nov 2024

Its a big board with lots of threads.

lark

(25,838 posts)
15. That may have been one story.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:40 AM
Nov 2024

Our was that the machine flipped the vote, son saw that it was wrong when he went to the verification phase, it let him go back and change the vote from assface to Harrisl

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
6. Our bigger problem is running elections on the cheap.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:53 AM
Nov 2024

Long wait times are the most visible consequence that disproportionally affects people in populous areas (that in many states just happen to favor the Democratic Party).

The right to vote in a free and fair election is the cornerstone of the existence of our constitutional democratic republic. It is long passed time to demand our state budgets prioritize elections and ensure no one is subjected to what is, for all intents and purposes, a poll tax. (Time is money. And wait times equal suppressed turnout. For every 10 people waiting in a line of more than 2 hours, I have absolutely no doubt that at least one person -- and probably more -- saw the line and left. Perhaps because they had no babysitter. Perhaps because they perceived the line as 'great turnout' that made their vote unnecessary. The reason doesn't matter. It is an intolerable barrier and we've go to stop tolerating it cycle after cycle. )

DET

(2,348 posts)
10. Money Has Nothing to Do With It
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:09 AM
Nov 2024

This is deliberate on the part of Republicans. They want people (Democrats) to leave. Personally, I could not physically wait in a line over an hour. I’m sure there are lots of people who couldn’t.

pat_k

(12,663 posts)
11. If a fraction of the billions we pour into elections. . .
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:24 AM
Nov 2024

. . . were poured into a national campaign against democracy on the cheap (or whatever good stuff strategic messaging people come up with), I think we could actually get some action in the states.

Appealing to fundamental principle and moral imperative crosses party lines.

And it is hard to argue that an election in which a subset of voters are subjected to lines of 90 minutes to 5 hours is free and fair.

How can we allow American elections to be run in a way that evokes pity around the world?

One message. One topic. Hammered. All year.

I would trade voter ID for putting in place resources that would ensure a maximum wait time of 15 minutes even if the state has 100% turnout.

lark

(25,838 posts)
13. Yes, and it 100% did happen to my son.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:37 AM
Nov 2024

We 3 went to vote together. When we walked out, he said the machine changed his vote but he saw that on the receipt and changed it, verified the change on the receipt and everything was ok. What about people that don't pay attention? This was in Jacksonville, FL on the 2nd day of Early Voting.

Ms. Toad

(38,078 posts)
17. You've never had to go back and correct misspelled words
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:52 AM
Nov 2024

When you use a touchscreen to type?

Did you blame it on the machine, and insist it changed what you typed? Or was it more likely far fingers or a poorly calibrated touchscreen.

It is the same technology. Software has to take where your finger hits and connect it to what to display in the screen. It isn't changing your vote. It is displaying what the algorithm says you touched. Calibration is never perfect. I had to make several "it" to "or" or "ot" corrections in this post, because the calibration on my phone requires a slightly left of center touch (or I consistently touch right of center).

That is the point of the vote verification screens - to show you how the algorithm interpreted your touch, so you can correct your ballot before casting it, in the event a miscalibration or fat fingers resulted in marking a vote that wasn't what you intended. It isn't changing your vote, it is simply not interpreting your touch in the same way you intended it.

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