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mopinko

(73,930 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:52 AM Nov 2024

we wont win in 26 if we dont look closely at this debacle.

this election was not ‘free and fair’. this was an election in the war zone of an undeclared war. since it was undeclared, we took no measures to protect ppl.
we knew bomb threats were coming, but somehow they closed polling places anyway. many feared bumping into the proud boys. looking back, the vids of fights at ev sites- were those on purpose? hmmm.
they openly disenfranchised college student- moving long time polling places off campus. purposely causing long lines. challenging residency.
their targeting was laser focused. they have all the data they need to draw a district that they will hold forever. so they knew where the dem votes were, and cd shave it any way they cd.

they nitpicked mail ballots. they passed laws, tho they were struck down. many, many reports on xitter and here about ppl checking their sos website and seeing they were not counted.
then there’s dejoy…

hopefully the recounts that r coming will shed some light. hopefully the campaigns r comparing results w their canvassing. hopefully, they r calling their +1s who r showing as not voting. hopefully, they r collecting affidavits.
but those assholes dined out for 4 yrs on- but the ppl have questions about the elections.
well, guess what. we get to ask questions, too.

and if we dont answer those questions many, many voters, esp 1st time voters, will throw up their hands. we must make them prove they won.

and b4 u say i sound like a magat- we will not take this forward if the evidence is not there. they made claims based on lies. we will either make claims based on evidence, or we will concede.
either way, we will know exactly how trustworthy our elections r.

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we wont win in 26 if we dont look closely at this debacle. (Original Post) mopinko Nov 2024 OP
To my knowledge, no one is doing recounts in swing states. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #1
Well, recounts are not going to find votes that were suppressed. LisaL Nov 2024 #3
yeah, that gets hard, but mopinko Nov 2024 #6
casey has asked for 1 in pa. mopinko Nov 2024 #4
Careful! RandiFan1290 Nov 2024 #2
hey. they're the 1s who MOST need to know if voting is legit. mopinko Nov 2024 #8
They can't win fairly Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #5
he's been a cheater all his life. mopinko Nov 2024 #7
Over at spoutible, there's this Steve Spoonamore guy explaining how the vote was hacked... MaeScott Nov 2024 #9
Democrats shouldn't shrink from questioning MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #10

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
1. To my knowledge, no one is doing recounts in swing states.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:04 AM
Nov 2024

Democrats should demand a few as a test in the areas where there was dramatic changes from 2020 to 2024.

LisaL

(47,509 posts)
3. Well, recounts are not going to find votes that were suppressed.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 2024

If polling places are getting bomb threats, those polling places get closed while the place is being searched for non-existing bombs. You are not going to find those votes, they were never cast, because polling place got shut down because of a bomb threat. And as far as I can tell from what is being reported, all those threats were in heavily democratic precincts.

mopinko

(73,930 posts)
6. yeah, that gets hard, but
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:10 AM
Nov 2024

iirc, brennan center has done calculations on this. there r things like the historical norms of how many newly registered voters who actually vote. not that those norms can b counted on now, but they r there. we can compare. if it’s way off, deserves a closer look.

wont change the results, but will put a handle on what went wrong.

mopinko

(73,930 posts)
4. casey has asked for 1 in pa.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 2024

and i think a couple house seats will end up getting them.

but the campaigns shd b looking at their data.

RandiFan1290

(6,712 posts)
2. Careful!
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:06 AM
Nov 2024

We wouldn't want to upset and alienate the 'independents' that voted for trump again

mopinko

(73,930 posts)
8. hey. they're the 1s who MOST need to know if voting is legit.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:13 AM
Nov 2024

srsly, this is a very bad thing for ppl not to trust the vote, on either side.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
5. They can't win fairly
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:10 AM
Nov 2024

So they try by harming or terrorizing people, that's how much of lowlives they are. Can you imagine Dems harassing those undeveloped backwards meth inhaling red areas? Nope, we let people vote in peace.

The party needs to address this problem.

I refuse to believe he won fair and square and that his views are popular by most people. Everyone I know hates his ass.

mopinko

(73,930 posts)
7. he's been a cheater all his life.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:11 AM
Nov 2024

and his russian daddy has been rigging elections there for decades now.

MaeScott

(973 posts)
9. Over at spoutible, there's this Steve Spoonamore guy explaining how the vote was hacked...
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:14 AM
Nov 2024

..in his opinion. States he’s in the cybersecurity field and gives an example of how the hack could be done.
Here’s a link I hope it works. Plausible explanation, got so much attention an alert was placed on first post, but he’s authentic. Since then there has been reports of discrepancies in ballot counts. It’s worth a look.
https://spoutible.com/thread/37794013

MadameButterfly

(4,156 posts)
10. Democrats shouldn't shrink from questioning
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:25 AM
Nov 2024

elections for fear of sounding like a MAGAt. They accuse us of what they are doing. With Trump as pres it will be full steam ahead toward elections Putin-style. We have to get explicit about what we are doing to protect our voting machines, and find better ways to combat all the suppression.

Every state with a Democratic governor and/or legislature can do this. The rest are lost to us.

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