A terrible thought

[pat_k]

I keep having the thought "I hope he dies." I tell myself I really don't wish him dead. I know that Vance is as bad or worse. But the thought keeps coming up.

I think what is driving it is that seeing his face makes me sick to my stomach. Actually. Seriously.

I don't vomit when I see Vance. Angry? Disgusted? Sure. But nausea? No. At least not yet.

But almost 10 years of conditioning have left me unable to see that man's face without becoming physically ill and it will be f-ing hard to avoid. Then the thought comes back. I hope he dies soon. If only he would die.

[JI7]

1. What's terrible about that ? and no, Vance isn't worse

at the very least he will be held to a higher standard. He is boring also so the idiots that like chaos and entertainment might just stop paying attention and voting.

[dmr]

44. I don't know, I think Vance will pretty much be a controlled puppet.

TPTB have invested too much money on this election.

Sadly, I'm just too disgusted and sick to write any more.

[H2O Man]

2. Recommended.

Can you identify the "terrible thought" for me?

[pat_k]

4. It rubs my conscience the wrong way to wish anyone dead.

Old conditioning. You're right though. The world would be better without him.

I just want a natural death for the man. No f-ing martyrdom.

[H2O Man]

6. I hear you!

I have the same issue.

[SoCalDavidS]

13. He Will Be A Martyr Regardless

He could choke on a french fry, and they'll continue to worship him for the rest of this century. IT'S A FUCKING CULT!!

[hlthe2b]

15. I get the impulse because I can't stand to hear/see him and even knowing he is creating havoc and will decimate

democracy--how else can one feel about him?

But then, no matter how it was to happen, his rabid fans would be beyond unbearable in their martyrdom of him. Hearing his cult deify him 24/7 with only a few more sane clips of him day in and day out would make me want to go find a grizzly bear to hibernate with.

[Captain Zero]

19. then join us to wish for his death from natural causes

on January 18-19.

Maybe think how nice it would be while you are taking out the trash those days.

[Martin Eden]

25. How about an accidental death, entirely his own fault?

Imagine The Felon sitting on his gold plated porcelain throne, furiously texting hate on his phone.

The device slips from his tiny hands, falling into the toilet. He stands up, turns around, trips over the trousers around his ankles, hits his head on the rim, then drowns in his own fetid shit.

[Conjuay]

34. any idea how we could arrange that?

[Martin Eden]

35. We have to rely on a deep cover operative

Her name is Karma.

[Turbineguy]

29. What if he's stuck by lightning and turned into a smoking pork rind?

Then we can blame it on God.

[choie]

3. You're not alone.

[Emrys]

5. If it's any consolation, from what I've seen on social media,

Vance is far from being a popular pick as VP among many of the MAGAts, not least (and this is no doubt the least objectionable thing about him for most of us) because his wife is not white and he's been photographed sporting a bindi.

But yeah, I'd been looking forward to not hearing that grating drawl of Trump's on a regular basis.

[Doodley]

7. How about we all join in a psychic experiment to make our wishes on the same day and same time?

[pat_k]

10. Hmmmm

If others out there are having the thought as often as I am, I'm guessing that there are many many moments that we're are having the thought at the same time.

[Blue_Roses]

17. You are definitely not alone

in how you feel. It goes against everything I was brought up to believe in for the good, but all the pain and hatred bring out a part of us that feels like "fight or flight,".

[Captain Zero]

18. January 18-19. Make it two days of

A focused death wish for him.

A funeral is all that will ever take care of him anyway.

Might as well be sooner than later.

[Silent Type]

8. My demure lady friend says that often. Cracks me up.

[MontanaMama]

9. I'd like him off the planet

yesterday. IMO, Vance has the potential to be worse but he has no cult following.

[Skittles]

11. Trump is really not the problem

he is just the biggest symptom of the ROT in US government

[dflprincess]

12. I'd prefer a massive stroke

One that leaves him paralyzed & unable to speak, but aware of what's going on.

But I'm really turning into a mean old.....

[DemonGoddess]

14. that would be poetic justice

[oasis]

37. He ends up like the physically challenged

reporter he famously mocked.
That would be poetic justice at an astronomical level.

[lostnfound]

16. The PTB wanted this win for Vance reasons more than Trump reasons

My gloomy expectation: When trump overreaches into OTT horrors, OR when the economy has been burned to the ground, Vance will become president. He will “lead” (follow the Austerity Plan playbook/Project 2025) out of the ruins into an 8 year presidency.

If they wait 2 years for the changeover to happen, he will be president for 10 years.

If Trump dies soon, maybe we get Vance for 8 years instead of 10.

[TommieMommy]

20. I'm with you on that

[Ysabel]

21. seeing his face makes me literally sick too...

hell even thinking about him makes me feel sick and yes I keep hoping he will die then he will be gone and then his frequent horrible moments in our faces will dissipate and will fade away into oblivion finally thank goodness...

p.s. and yes I really really do mean I want him to die ASAP - please hurry the fuck up!

[pat_k]

43. I hope there aren't too many of us.

But it helps to know I'm not alone.

More here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219696709#post42

[niyad]

22. I don't see any "terrible thought" there. I have been praying for him to stop

wasting oxgen for nine years.

[pat_k]

23. Old habits of conscience reprimand.

But I'm warming to the notion that wishing for a report of his natural death it is not really such a terrible thought after all.

[EndlessWire]

24. I know how you feel.

This is quite a test. For me, I started praying that his hair would fall out. It worked a bit. But then, I started praying that his d*ck would fall off. I have to mentally apologize for that, but then, I do it again. Guess I'm praying he doesn't get any, because he doesn't deserve any.

At first, I would not allow myself to wish for anyone's death. Then, I slipped a bit and it kind of spilled into my prayers. I had to apologize for that. But, now there are so many worthy potential death subjects, that I have to just quit outright, because I don't want to be that sort of person. There are too many of them. I have decided that I am supposed to learn some lesson that isn't really sinking in.

So, I am taking up raised garden bed farming. I'll get the beds ready this winter, and in the Spring I'll plant seeds. I'm gonna do a lot of it on J6. Whatever fits in that season.

But, I can still pray for him to eat a lot of high fat hamberders. He'll get fat and develop heart problems, but at least he'll look like his lover, Kim Jong Un. He wants to be like him, anyway. Not on me.

[pat_k]

39. Brilliant. I hope you perfect it and...

...make the millions the invention deserves for sparing so many a small piece of the torture

[pat_k]

40. "...some lesson that isn't really sinking in"

It sounds to me like you're onto a few lessons: Focusing on doing a bit of good in some sphere; finding nourishment in simple activities.

Raised bed gardening a good thing.

A friend of mine is finding refuge in baking bread.

These are good things.

Out of burnout with consulting during the pandemic, I started a dog walking business. For days I've been so distracted, running on automatic pilot, not fully registering what I'm doing as I go from scheduled walk to scheduled walk. Now I'm making an effort to notice. To reel my attention back to the simple action of walking. Of noticing. Of connecting with my furry charges. Talk about a lesson in living in the present! Dogs are the embodiment of it.

"Do your little bit of good where you are; it is those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world."
— Desmond Tutu

"Service which is rendered without joy helps neither the servant nor the served. But all other pleasures and possessions pale into nothingness before service which is rendered in a spirit of joy."
— Mahatma Gandhi

[Bo Zarts]

26. No .. not one person will morn his death. Not one.

He is the most hated person on earth, working on being the most hated person in history.

[pat_k]

41. His character dooms him.

Or so I like to believe.

...
The moral isolation, which thus naturally and inevitably encompasses the bad man, is often the cause of his becoming the victim of despair.
...

The above is part of a larger excerpt from Schopenhauer's "The Basis of Morality" (On "the radical difference of mental habit between the good character and the bad" ) found in this post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19689043

[oldtime dfl_er]

28. I'm right there with you

I feel the bile rising up every time I open my computer and see his orange, pocky, fat cadaver face staring out.

I feel like we can survive the attempted implementation of Project 2025, but we cannot survive World War III. That's why I hope Vance is in sooner rather than later. Vance also doesn't have the cult, and should be beatable.

[pat_k]

42. A friend of mine expressed incredulity at the level to which nausea hits.

Perhaps my threshold is low, but hearing that others have a similar reaction helps.

Unfortunately, nausea for me is associated with what one doctor labeled "atypical migraine" -- to explain unexplainable bouts of nausea (that predate that horrible man). I was even hospitalized a few times as a kid for dehydration after a period of being unable to keep anything down for which no cause was ever found. Whatever my problem is, when nausea is triggered, whatever the cause, it does not end. And seeing that man has become a trigger.

[Blaukraut]

30. Only reason I don't want him dead is

That they'll put his ass (or face. Same difference) on Mount Rushmore as a martyr for the cause. If it were possible, I'd want him to live forever, but forgotten.

[a kennedy]

31. I know....puke reflex for me as well......

I keep turning off the on the hour news on my car radio. I usually only listen to NPR and their hourly news is always about the orange piece of shit. I just turn it off for like 3 - 5 minutes on the hour. I can’t even HEAR his damn name. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[Meowmee]

32. Stop watching tv news etc.

Then you can cut down on it a lot. Media should cover as little as possible about him, there is no law that says they have to cover his every move and hate filled crap. Take away his narcissistic supply which drains everyone, at least you can do that for yourself.


Of course they will continue to profit off of a fascist who they helped put into power, who murdered millions of Americans.

Your thoughts are normal imo, not terrible at all.

[Emile]

33. My wife and I discussed this last night. We're

at the same conclusion as you.

[Vinca]

36. I totally understand this, but in the end I think Vance is the real threat. Trump is just the interim puppet.

You know what's really going to make me sick to my stomach? When the miserable fuck dies and there's a state funeral. How can there not be at this point? I figure all I can do at this point is put on my waders and get in line to piss on his grave.

[pat_k]

38. Oh no. Another horror I hadn't thought of.

[chouchou]

45. My take is this: Men like Donald Trump have done (most likely) things that would put him in ...

..jail for many, many years. Personally, I deeply suspect that Trump had a LOT of doing, in order to have Jeffrey Epstein..ah.. gone.
Do I want him dead? The answer is; Don't Ask.