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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,250 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:22 PM Nov 2024

Some Trump Voters Already Regret Their Decision Amid Concerns Over Tariffs, Job Cuts, and Rising Cost

Just days after Donald Trump’s presidential victory, reports indicate that some of his supporters are already experiencing “buyer’s remorse” as they confront the immediate impacts of his economic policies. In a video report, Brett Meiselas, co-founder of the MeidasTouch Network, highlighted the growing regret among Trump voters, many of whom did not anticipate how Trump’s proposed tariffs and policy changes would affect them directly.

Data from Google Trends provides insight into this emerging phenomenon. In the hours surrounding the election, searches for terms like “change my vote” and “are tariffs bad” surged, particularly in key battleground states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and North Carolina. Meiselas pointed to these searches as an indicator of the swift realization among voters about the potential consequences of Trump’s trade policies. For example, many Trump supporters mistakenly believed that tariffs would financially impact foreign producers rather than U.S. businesses and consumers—a misconception now being addressed as businesses adjust to expected cost increases.

The economic realities of tariffs are quickly setting in for small business owners, many of whom are directly affected. Meiselas shared the story of a Pennsylvania small manufacturing company whose employees learned that their holiday bonuses would be cut to prepare for the financial strain anticipated from increased import costs. The company’s president reportedly had to explain to workers what tariffs are and how they function, revealing a widespread misunderstanding of the economic policy.

For larger companies, the impact of tariffs is no less stark. Automotive companies like Nissan and Stellantis are already bracing for cost increases and have announced impending layoffs to mitigate anticipated losses. CNN recently highlighted that the prices of common goods are expected to rise as companies pass along the cost of tariffs to consumers. Leaders from major U.S. corporations, including AutoZone, have confirmed that price increases are on the way, with some anticipating hikes as early as next year.

https://www.meidasplus.com/p/some-trump-voters-already-regret

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Some Trump Voters Already Regret Their Decision Amid Concerns Over Tariffs, Job Cuts, and Rising Cost (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2024 OP
I have zero sympathy for them dsc Nov 2024 #1
When were you in the Army? COL Mustard Nov 2024 #106
I heard it in Alcoholics Anonymous not the army dsc Nov 2024 #145
I don't get people who don't do their research and just listen to Fox News, etc kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #109
Oh well!! hatrack Nov 2024 #2
Exactly! Cherrycheeks Nov 2024 #35
Too bad Faux pas Nov 2024 #3
Boo, Hoo Bitbit Nov 2024 #4
Boo fucking hoo. ramedy Nov 2024 #5
Oh well XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #6
Yeah, they're not the sharpest tool in the shed. Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #58
their eyes were watering from the stink of their idol Marthe48 Nov 2024 #68
I couldnt understand how any government worker, contractor, or supplier getagrip_already Nov 2024 #7
No sympathy EnergizedLib Nov 2024 #8
Do people not understand how tariffs work? Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #9
Not necessarily. yardwork Nov 2024 #17
That is Apple's plan. Old Crank Nov 2024 #51
Yeah if he targets just China Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #116
He won't JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #147
Tariffs are strictly controlled with free trade agreements Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #154
Respectfully - no JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #155
Ok, then........... Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #156
I don't expect people to understand the specialized language JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #157
" But in about 8 to 12 years, foreign factories will seriously consider moving their factories here to avoid the tariff" BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #46
Sounds like magic! travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #53
Exactly! BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #55
They won't move factories here NickB79 Nov 2024 #52
Americans are under employed Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #123
My factory pays $28/hr to start, and it's a Teamster's union job NickB79 Nov 2024 #142
Unions julmur Nov 2024 #153
Uhhhhh... GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #70
Depends on how he does the tariffs. Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #124
Agree with others here. With no requirement for a portion of a component made in the US, AllyCat Nov 2024 #80
Yeah, Maybe Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #130
No they don't JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #96
I don't believe the article soandso Nov 2024 #138
This is called "Leopards ate my face" NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #10
The proud member of the Leopard Ate My Face party. LOL StarryNite Nov 2024 #140
Sorry, I can't stop laughing HAB911 Nov 2024 #11
Why? You're on the same ship they're on. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2024 #18
Yes I am, I'm just an asshole HAB911 Nov 2024 #22
Well okay then! CrispyQ Nov 2024 #28
Then we might as well laugh as the ship goes down. We're done crying. jrthin Nov 2024 #115
I hear you. Now that the election is done, Ilsa Nov 2024 #65
In some ways it's better if the Rs take the House as well. COL Mustard Nov 2024 #108
Truth HAB911 Nov 2024 #117
I'm of the same mindset JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #149
+1 oasis Nov 2024 #143
To every Trump voter and every 3rd party voter and every eligible but non-voter: RockRaven Nov 2024 #12
NOW the news media explains tariffs?! yardwork Nov 2024 #13
It was reported Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2024 #16
Sure, it was reported - but not like Biden's gaffe was reported. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
Just wait until the SS and Medicare cuts start. roamer65 Nov 2024 #14
I have already decided to prepare a statement my wife can read at my memorial services misanthrope Nov 2024 #33
That is not a bad idea.... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #47
Great idea but it wouldn't work for me FakeNoose Nov 2024 #82
My family and my wife's family are overflowing with MAGA misanthrope Nov 2024 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #89
Absolutely Macrophylla Nov 2024 #92
Well, there's an old saying milestogo Nov 2024 #15
They won't trust the scientists but they believe some shit they heard on social media. CrispyQ Nov 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author LoisB Nov 2024 #97
...or a fake reality show starring a fake billionaire. LoisB Nov 2024 #98
I hereby pledge to them all the sympathy they deserve. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2024 #20
Fuck them. nt GoYouPackersGo Nov 2024 #21
Bless their Hearts BOSSHOG Nov 2024 #24
Its like the literal definition of FAFO ColinC Nov 2024 #25
Closing American institutions ...... Lovie777 Nov 2024 #26
Thoughts and ...... oh who am kidding? Raven123 Nov 2024 #27
I have concepts of thoughts and prayers. hatrack Nov 2024 #44
That is awesome! TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #77
You win! Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #95
Won the internet! yardwork Nov 2024 #110
I have concepts that I cannot post. wnylib Nov 2024 #134
Tough titty said the kitty. raccoon Nov 2024 #29
When the milk ran dry 😂 Sherry70-retired Nov 2024 #36
Focus groups, man on the streets, cletus safaris Easterncedar Nov 2024 #30
These trumpet people did this to all of us and now we all are stuck paying way more for everything. TommieMommy Nov 2024 #31
Geez us thinkingagain Nov 2024 #32
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #34
'Bye... Buns_of_Fire Nov 2024 #39
Welcome to DU...I guess. GP6971 Nov 2024 #40
Oh boo fucking hoo! We fucking warned you, and yet you still voted for him! sakabatou Nov 2024 #37
Hope they get everything they voted for In It to Win It Nov 2024 #38
Dumbass Johnny Come Latelys Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #41
F them. Bristlecone Nov 2024 #42
These guys will still vote for felon kansasobama Nov 2024 #43
They will wake up to become Woke MagickMuffin Nov 2024 #45
I got my shot in on Trumpers on the Walmart parking lot. gordianot Nov 2024 #48
Maybe they should all go fuck themselves for the rest of their ignorant fucking lives. Orrex Nov 2024 #49
. berniesandersmittens Nov 2024 #50
If someone doesn't understand how a tariff works or dlk Nov 2024 #54
I don't think he'll do more than lip service to impose tariffs. LisaM Nov 2024 #56
Well someone has to say it. sarge43 Nov 2024 #57
Tariffs will hurt foreign companies Old Crank Nov 2024 #59
DU's next Mission: Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #60
"It's ok if it's done.... Quanto Magnus Nov 2024 #61
This reminds me of pro Brexit voters poli-junkie Nov 2024 #62
Brexit was a 100% appeal to emotionalism and Nationalism. Aussie105 Nov 2024 #127
I remember! I also remember TSF saying it was gonna be great for them. Deuxcents Nov 2024 #139
Exactly what I was going to post. tanyev Nov 2024 #152
A bunch of fucking morons fucked everyone by voting for Trump and they can go fuck themselves. 🖕 cstanleytech Nov 2024 #63
It's going to be far worse down the road. Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #64
By the end of Trump's second term there will be millions of them. MissouriDem47 Nov 2024 #66
How many will there be at the end of Vance's third term? misanthrope Nov 2024 #67
Also Musk has warned that there will need to be a period of 'hardship' in order to reduce the deficit.... AntiFascist Nov 2024 #69
They fucked us over on purpose, and they can't be fucked enough to make up for it. lark Nov 2024 #71
NOW?!?! GB_RN Nov 2024 #72
Oops xuplate Nov 2024 #73
And now the Labour Party has won in a landslide victory....there may be hope yet. n/t AntiFascist Nov 2024 #113
That didn't take long. ananda Nov 2024 #74
"did not anticipate how Trump's (proposals) would affect them directly." Beartracks Nov 2024 #75
I bet Fox news is already busy figuring out how to blame the democrats dgauss Nov 2024 #76
Here's a good not-too-long article on the whole tariffs thing nmmi Nov 2024 #78
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kamala" GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #79
This will get worse before it gets better - buckle up. nt TBF Nov 2024 #81
Ready - Fire - Aim Pinback Nov 2024 #83
Yep Meowmee Nov 2024 #84
This is my last week UpInArms Nov 2024 #85
Homework... Half-step Nov 2024 #87
They're cut from the same bolt of cloth as the Brits who voted for Brexit, GoCubsGo Nov 2024 #88
That's what gets on my nerves Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #120
Tots and pears. Hope you don't become one of those homeless people you despise so much. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #90
Poor dears... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #91
The old dog catcher is retiring! Aussie105 Nov 2024 #93
Fuck them orangecrush Nov 2024 #94
All those big words coming home to roost? EarthFirst Nov 2024 #99
be careful what you wish for . bay come back to bite you! and if they cut your ss ssi ssd , dont come whining to AllaN01Bear Nov 2024 #100
My black heart thrives on their regret and misery. I embrace the power of the dark side for them. NBachers Nov 2024 #101
Fuck them. Fuck them all without exception. And... Karasu Nov 2024 #102
Thank God for Kentucky Bourbon! BattleRow Nov 2024 #103
Fortunately it's not. mwooldri Nov 2024 #122
I'm planning to stock up on a lot of items BattleRow Nov 2024 #125
Perhaps I'm mistaken,but aren't the used barrels also used to cask wine? BattleRow Nov 2024 #126
Not commonplace but it is done. mwooldri Nov 2024 #146
I recall seeing a program on public TV about winemaking and BattleRow Nov 2024 #148
Tuff Titties PlanetBev Nov 2024 #104
"I love the poorly educated" said Trump years ago. COL Mustard Nov 2024 #105
Lincoln said God must have loved poor folks cause he made so many of them. BattleRow Nov 2024 #151
There's soon to be a lot of fat leopards NoveltySocks Nov 2024 #107
But he said he would only harm women, brown skinned people and gays! Turbineguy Nov 2024 #111
You were going to own the libs; you've ended up owning yourselves. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2024 #112
I really don't care. nt jrthin Nov 2024 #114
I second that emotion! Aussie105 Nov 2024 #118
Too late. Their regret is worthless. GaYellowDawg Nov 2024 #119
Good. I hope that they choke on it. Thinking that the grass was greener on the side of one who literally promises SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #121
Cry us a river asshats BlueKota Nov 2024 #128
You should have thought about the consequences before you voted. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2024 #129
Fingers crossed! Aussie105 Nov 2024 #131
From the bottom of my stone-cold heart... AngryOldDem Nov 2024 #132
He's not going to do broad-sweeping moonscape Nov 2024 #133
Who gets the money from tariffs? keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #135
A Viral Case of Buyer's Remorse...and So Quick This Time! MrWowWow Nov 2024 #136
Awwww, buyer's remorse Trumpsters? hadEnuf Nov 2024 #137
Fuck the whole lot of those dumb ass MAGA motherfuckers. They fucked around now it is time for them to fucking find out. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #141
Amen - it's find out time JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #150
The only thing that will help soothe get the red out Nov 2024 #144
They will be few and far between. louis-t Nov 2024 #158
remind them in 2026. pansypoo53219 Nov 2024 #159

dsc

(53,306 posts)
1. I have zero sympathy for them
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:24 PM
Nov 2024

if they want some they can look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

dsc

(53,306 posts)
145. I heard it in Alcoholics Anonymous not the army
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:05 PM
Nov 2024

though the army may have brought it to AA for all I know.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,200 posts)
109. I don't get people who don't do their research and just listen to Fox News, etc
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:32 PM
Nov 2024

Especially when some if them have to know that Fox news got sued for 1+billion for admittedly lying.

Cherrycheeks

(291 posts)
35. Exactly!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:12 PM
Nov 2024

I was reading and saying the same thing as I read your post. However, I must say Fuck em!!!😡

Faux pas

(16,051 posts)
3. Too bad
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:26 PM
Nov 2024

we knew what was happening. Their buyers remose is effing useless. None of us mean anything to him.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
7. I couldnt understand how any government worker, contractor, or supplier
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Nov 2024

Would vote for this piece of crap when he is saying they will cut $3T from the federal budget, shutting down entire agencies and gutting others, closing overseas bases and gutting the military.

The federal budget only has $1.7T in discretionary spending, including dod. Everything else is locked up as entitlements (ss, medicare, medicaide, etc).

Cutting that much will cripple the economies of va, md, dc, and de. Every state with a military base, a research facility, space or missile center, or government contractor base will go through a major recession.

The maga congress wont care. They will sell it as the biden bubble popping. The press, whats left of it will go along.

But the pain will be intense. And it is what they say they will do. Voters have to believe they were lying to vote for them.



Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
9. Do people not understand how tariffs work?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:35 PM
Nov 2024

Yeah, it will increase the price of everything (if it's a blanket tariff)

But in about 8 to 12 years, foreign factories will seriously consider moving their factories here to avoid the tariffs. If you notice when all those free trade agreements were passed and when we had the crash in 2007. That took about 12 years to seriously impact employment.

So, my guess is Pedo Trump is planning on being president for about 12 years.

But tariffs do work to bring in jobs. It just takes quite a few years

yardwork

(68,879 posts)
17. Not necessarily.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nov 2024

Trump says he's going to impose tariffs on China. Manufacturers can simply move their factories to other low-wage countries. There's no guarantee they'll ever come back to the U.S.

Even blanket tariffs on every country might not work - and I doubt it would be possible to impose such a thing.

Old Crank

(6,591 posts)
51. That is Apple's plan.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 2024

They are cutting their exposure in China and moving to other countries. They may end up with a tarrif but it will be lower.

Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
116. Yeah if he targets just China
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 06:49 PM
Nov 2024

Corporations can just hop from country to country, where tariffs are lower. They may get tired of that considering it costs to open new factories.

If the dictator wants blanket tariffs, he'll get blanket tariffs. I'm sure our new department of everything head, Musk, will make it so.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
147. He won't
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:07 AM
Nov 2024

There are also Chapter Tariffs and different country groups.

I have a feeling some of our Free Trade Agreements will not amount to a damn thing within the next year. I would not be surprised if a few countries/trading blocs tear them up.

And - we will deserve it.

Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
154. Tariffs are strictly controlled with free trade agreements
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:35 AM
Nov 2024

For all the many, many free trade agreements the US has with foreign countries.

But the Chinese free trade agreement signed in 2020, addresses tariffs. And allows China to sell farm goods in our grocery stores. Trump himself signed and negotiated that agreement. Though it was officially implemented in 2020.

"The Phase One trade agreement includes: Structural reforms, Changes to China's economic and trade regime, A commitment to additional purchases of U.S. goods and services, A dispute resolution system, and Modifications to Section 301 tariff actions."

There are photos of Trump holding up the agreement next to the Chinese dictator. So this tariff thing with China has already been negotiated by Trump....er his Nazi cabinet.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
155. Respectfully - no
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:47 AM
Nov 2024

Again - I'm a licensed Customs Broker, Certified Export Specialist, Certified HTS US Specialist, etc. etc.

I survived the 2018 301 Investigation (China) Tariffs. I'm now going to have to fight my way through 232s and whatever else Putin demands Trump throw at us.

You keep worrying about Farmers - and that's your right. I'm also final signature on a family owned Agribusiness with thousands of acres in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, and laying still in Arkansas (dad and his brothers picked it up in the 1980's).

We farm to feed our neighbors - not to export soybeans. If those white farmers who have always gotten a free ride from the government are applauding this . . .

I can show you a company in Secaucus NJ that LITERALLY kept the world running with their Cloud Compute and Storage servers Made in the USA and exported form Secaucus - of which their tariff bill went from just under $2M to just under $100M between September 24, 2018 and September 23, 2019. In the meantime, the Government slow rolled drawback access and had a shit assed approach to this new thing called exclusions. I watch people in the NYC and Northern NJ area take a train and 2 bus stops to make $25 an hour to keep America running.

I also had to deal with India where we were the IOR - who slammed us with extreme regulation hurdles. Ditto Austria, Germany, France, Italy, Australia etc. etc. - it's called retaliation.

My family will eat regardless of what happens.

But my current employer keeps America's Freight Trains running.

Good luck to corporate farmers getting their shit to the ports if we can't produce those valves anymore - or have to pull back production.

You are talking to someone who negotiated her own balloon out of the last company - and helped establish the sub build solutions in Mexico, the NL, and yep - Shenzen CN. I've had 12 head hunters contact me since Wednesday last week. I know how to get around the man.

My family will eat. As a matter of fact - we've had full time regular employees (multiple generations) since the Great Flood. Our employees will eat and we won't change a thing for them. We will still pay health insurance, lay off seasonally, provide Christmas bonuses etc. etc.

It's what ethical farmers do - so let the midwest farmers who voted for dumb fuckistan suffer.

I wrote what I wrote and I mean every word of it. No joke folks. It's a self-inflicted wound. They did it to themselves.

Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
156. Ok, then...........
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:06 AM
Nov 2024

I do not understand half of what you wrote.

Do you think we don't have a free trade agreement with China? I'm not saying pedo Trump will follow it but there are parts of it that specifically address tariffs.

Not sure if an agreement signed and negotiated with pedo Trump is worth the paper it's written on anyway. But it just shows what a f*cking liar he is about everything.

Let's face it, he's a dicktater now. He'll get revenge on his perceived enemies then make Americans suffer. Because he's a malignant narcissist and making people suffer excites him.

So, I'm glad you will survive this coming hell and that you more or less will help your workers. Good luck, we are going to need it.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
157. I don't expect people to understand the specialized language
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:08 AM
Nov 2024

But the CFR (Code of Regulations) Chapters which dictate Import and Export are massive.

Sometimes I feel like a Surgeon who is having to take direction from Engineer!

BannonsLiver

(20,189 posts)
46. " But in about 8 to 12 years, foreign factories will seriously consider moving their factories here to avoid the tariff"
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 2024


BannonsLiver

(20,189 posts)
55. Exactly!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:58 PM
Nov 2024

It’s from the same folks who brought you “If we cut taxes that’ll spark growth and the wealth will….trickle down!”

NickB79

(20,218 posts)
52. They won't move factories here
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:57 PM
Nov 2024

The US labor market is far too tight to support millions of new factory jobs. We're at 4% unemployment, which is basically full employment. And if Trump restricts immigration, both legal and illegal, our population will actually start to drop in a decade, much like Japan, South Korea, China and parts of Europe are experiencing. Americans just aren't having babies like they did 50 yr ago. And if the 4B movement takes off in young women like in South Korea, and the cost of living from those tariffs skyrockets, the birth rate will plummet.

And even IF they build factories here, the ensuing goods they produce will still be more expensive than what we once got from overseas. If a hammer from China costs $10, and a US hammer costs $15, you put on a $6 tariff to drive hammer factories to the US. But now hammers still cost $5 more than they used to. Tariffs NEVER bring down prices.

Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
123. Americans are under employed
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:13 PM
Nov 2024

The US labor market is dominated by retail sales clerk jobs and restaurant workers. Any factory that can pay more than those crappy jobs, won't have any problem with getting workers.

Then the number of crappy little sales and waiter jobs remaining empty increases ....I think our society will survive that.

Not sure how that 4B would translate here in the US. Did white women vote for Kamala in droves? I don't think so. And you don't necessarily need young labor to work in factories. Old people who have had their Social Security taken away can also work in factories.

And so what if the hammer costs more. People's wages would go up and they could afford the more expensive hammer. It's the free market working on wages. Less available labor will cost more.

But like I said it will take years. It took about 13 years for NAFTA to crush American labor.

NickB79

(20,218 posts)
142. My factory pays $28/hr to start, and it's a Teamster's union job
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:18 PM
Nov 2024

So, great health care and a pension plus 401K. All you need is a high school diploma and a clean drug test and we'll hire you.

We're perennially understaffed now, have been for years. And we're hemorrhaging guys hitting retirement age with no replacements. Great for workaholics like me who want 50+ hr weeks and tons of OT, but not good for corporate.

julmur

(222 posts)
153. Unions
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:18 AM
Nov 2024

Unfortunately, a large percentage of union workers voted for trump, so I wouldn’t expect these union jobs to remain at all secure

AllyCat

(18,454 posts)
80. Agree with others here. With no requirement for a portion of a component made in the US,
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:23 PM
Nov 2024

Manufacturers will just look for the cheapest labor market. That’ll be us after 8-10 years of high unemployment and repressive government. Economic collapse. Maybe when Americans are desperate to work for pennies on the dollar, those companies will move back here.

Farmer-Rick

(12,401 posts)
130. Yeah, Maybe
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:25 PM
Nov 2024

That's likely to happen too.

But the thing is we buy all the crap. If we are thrown into a desperate pool of constantly collapsing labor markets ....which in a way, we already have one foot in. Who will buy all of China's, Vietnam or South Korea's factory made crap? Maybe the US will become a third world country that ignores environmental law and safety to get a few factory jobs for it's starving millions.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
96. No they don't
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:55 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:05 AM - Edit history (1)

I'm a Trade Compliance Officer.

You forget we have to export the finished goods after final transformation.

The parts and components to build might not EVER be made or sourced in America.

Its smarter to sub build and transfer to another sub builder outside of the USA - then third party export to a country that has retaliated with Tariffs on Country of Origin USA. Exclusions and Drawbacks are worthless unless your bringing in $100M parts and components annually.

Great test - Where do shoe manufacturers obtain brads for eyelets for laces?

Iron Castings?

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
138. I don't believe the article
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:10 PM
Nov 2024

It's WAAAAAY to soon for buyers remorse, which may or may not happen. He's making shit up to push a neoliberal (basically British and Libertarian) economic agenda, imo. How do we know who may have searched "what tariffs do"? Those could be Democrats searching that and there's no way to know. A quick search turned up why those auto manufacturers are doing layoffs and it's not what Meidas Touch claims:

About 1,100 workers at Stellantis' (STLA) Jeep factory in Ohio are facing layoffs as the plant will go from two daily shifts to one as early as January. The move is part of Stellantis' (STLA) efforts to reduce bloated inventory across its U.S. dealerships.

"These are difficult actions to take, but they are necessary to enable the company to regain its competitive edge and eventually return production to prior levels," Stellantis (STLA) said.

Meanwhile, Nissan (OTCPK:NSANY) will cut 9,000 jobs globally and reduce its production capacity by 20% as it eyes lowering costs by around $2.63B. The Japanese automaker also slashed its outlook and will reduce up to 10% its stake in Mitsubishi Motors (OTCPK:MMTOF) to "increase the flexibility" of its financials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/auto-layoffs-stellantis-nissan-to-cut-jobs-amid-weak-sales/ar-AA1tJlvA

The automaker behind brands including Jeep (STLA
-4.11%), Chrysler, and Dodge slashed its full-year financial expectations on Monday, as CEO Carlos Tavares looks to fix the company’s so-called “disaster” in North America.

Stellantis cited performance issues in the market as well as “deterioration” in the global automotive industry, pointing to the rising threat of Chinese automakers and a growing supply of vehicles. Rivals such as BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Volkswagen, as well as luxury carmaker Aston Martin, have all lowered their guidance in recent weeks, citing similar reasons.

The Netherlands-based automaker has pushed up its timeline to lower U.S. dealer inventory to about 330,000 units to the end of 2024, from the first quarter of 2025. To do so, it will cut shipments to North American over the second half of 2024 by more than 200,000 units compared to a year earlier, doubling its prior guidance.

Stellantis’ performance in North America has been rough in recent months, plagued by big recalls, stagnating sales, plummeting profits, and quality issues. That’s in addition to the departure of several executives and bold offers to buy back at least one of the automaker’s brands. Dealerships earlier this month wrote to Tavares about the “rapid degradation” of Stellantis brands caused by “short-term decision making” that hit market share.

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'Disaster has arrived' at Stellantis


https://qz.com/stellantis-jeep-chrysler-sales-2024-guidance-stock-1851660561

I don't have a very strong opinion on the issue of tariffs because I don't know where they would be applied. Could they raise prices? Of course, but so do union wages and we accept that because we want people well paid and the country to prosper. If a tariff is applied on goods we don't much much need and already produce, it's protectionist and if it's what you laid out, it's to move jobs back here. You don't want tariffs on something you desperately need and don't make at home. It's a case by case thing. Personally, it horrifies me that we are dependent on foreign countries for essential things like antibiotics. I remember our manufacturing base getting hollowed out and saying to my husband how ludicrous it was that people were cheering as their 401Ks went up while those jobs went overseas. That's cheering your own demise on the race to the bottom.

NameAlreadyTaken

(2,208 posts)
10. This is called "Leopards ate my face"
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:36 PM
Nov 2024

on Reddit at least. The woman who voted for the "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party" says, "But I didn't think it meant the leopards would eat MY face!"

HAB911

(10,240 posts)
22. Yes I am, I'm just an asshole
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 2024

and will continue to laugh as I look them in the eye as the water rises.

Ilsa

(63,759 posts)
65. I hear you. Now that the election is done,
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:04 PM
Nov 2024

I'm looking forward to saying "I told you so," and "Well, what the hell did you think he meant?"

Fuck them. All of those magats being deliberately stupid, ignoring experts, and making snide remarks about "elites".

COL Mustard

(7,924 posts)
108. In some ways it's better if the Rs take the House as well.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:31 PM
Nov 2024

That way, they own the whole damn shitshow and we can just sit back and watch them implode.

JustAnotherGen

(37,474 posts)
149. I'm of the same mindset
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:09 AM
Nov 2024

All our Reps and Sens can do is vote no. I don't want ANY assists from Hakeem or Chuck. And if Chuck DOES offer assists to the Senate - he needs to go.

We need to pull a GOP and pull leadership midstream.

At this point? I'd rather see Gallego - yeah - he's new. But the guy has serious grit. Alternative? Fetterman. I think John F is a rock star.

RockRaven

(18,617 posts)
12. To every Trump voter and every 3rd party voter and every eligible but non-voter:
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:37 PM
Nov 2024

Fuck you, you did this to yourself and all of us. I save all of my sympathy for the latter and have none for you.

Your alleged ignorance was willful and easily preventable and thereby no excuse whatsoever.

Once again: FUCK. YOU.

yardwork

(68,879 posts)
13. NOW the news media explains tariffs?!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 2024

They didn't correct Trump's blatant lies about how tariffs work, but now they're rushing to tell people the truth?

WTF.

yardwork

(68,879 posts)
19. Sure, it was reported - but not like Biden's gaffe was reported.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 2024

There wasn't 24/7 news saturation - which is what such a blatant lie deserved.

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
14. Just wait until the SS and Medicare cuts start.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:40 PM
Nov 2024

😈

First question from me…”Who did you vote for?”

Then it goes from there.

A side note: Thank you Dump voters for voting to unemploy yourselves so I can have eventual deflation in prices. It means I can retire sooner.

misanthrope

(9,347 posts)
33. I have already decided to prepare a statement my wife can read at my memorial services
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:03 PM
Nov 2024

It will place blame squarely at the feet of everyone in the room who voted for Donald Trump in 2024. Same with an obit.

FakeNoose

(39,951 posts)
82. Great idea but it wouldn't work for me
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 2024

Nobody among my family or friends are/were Chump voters.

My dad voted for Reagan TWICE - but my dad passed away in 2011. So he never saw what his R votes ended up doing to our country. Even if my dad were still alive, I can't believe he would have voted for Chump.

misanthrope

(9,347 posts)
86. My family and my wife's family are overflowing with MAGA
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:33 PM
Nov 2024

Some of them are brazen in their hatred. Others try to wrap it in a superficial cordiality that is just as infuriating.

Response to roamer65 (Reply #14)

milestogo

(22,443 posts)
15. Well, there's an old saying
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:40 PM
Nov 2024
Do your research on candidates before the election, not after.

Especially if the sum total of your knowledge is from a commercial, facebook, and a conversation you had with a drunk MAGAT in a bar.

CrispyQ

(40,591 posts)
23. They won't trust the scientists but they believe some shit they heard on social media.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:48 PM
Nov 2024


Republicans started focusing on filling Boards of Education across the country back in the 80s.

As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing. ~Karl Rove



Response to milestogo (Reply #15)

BOSSHOG

(44,541 posts)
24. Bless their Hearts
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:50 PM
Nov 2024

“Many of them did not anticipate” (did not know stuff). And they voted anyway. Thanks Neighbors.

Lovie777

(21,543 posts)
26. Closing American institutions ......
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:52 PM
Nov 2024

Firing employees that won’t the sign the purity creed.

People losing jobs from the closures and losing benefits. Losing medical insurance.

The list goes on and on and on. Who will be able to pay rent? , food, child care, and on and on…

Raven123

(7,438 posts)
27. Thoughts and ...... oh who am kidding?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:52 PM
Nov 2024

They are gonna get it whether they like it or not. Deal with it.

Easterncedar

(5,388 posts)
30. Focus groups, man on the streets, cletus safaris
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:55 PM
Nov 2024

They can always find some random fool to quote. It’s tiresome, and a lazy way to pretend to be a journalist.

TommieMommy

(2,615 posts)
31. These trumpet people did this to all of us and now we all are stuck paying way more for everything.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:57 PM
Nov 2024

Maybe they should have done some research on how tariffs work etc. all I know is I am so pissed off. I'm living on social security. 😡

thinkingagain

(1,310 posts)
32. Geez us
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 2024

The information was out there. With little bit of research beyond their TikTok videos.
What the heck were they thinking I can’t decide who to vote, the horror man or a woman and so they flipped a coin?

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

sakabatou

(45,688 posts)
37. Oh boo fucking hoo! We fucking warned you, and yet you still voted for him!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:14 PM
Nov 2024

Look upon my field of fucks, and see that it is empty!

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
41. Dumbass Johnny Come Latelys
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:18 PM
Nov 2024

Too stupid to live.

I only feel sorry for my Dems who actually voted for Harris. Everyone else can pound dust.

kansasobama

(1,750 posts)
43. These guys will still vote for felon
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:31 PM
Nov 2024

So F them. F everyone who voted for Dem Senator but not for Harris. That is stupidity at its best.

MagickMuffin

(18,056 posts)
45. They will wake up to become Woke
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:40 PM
Nov 2024


I have been conversing with friends and it appears that some want candidates that will cater to their needs. However, I think that the voter is responsible for that information and get involved. Learn what it means to be an informed voter.

Plus it’s a lot easier obtaining that information than when I was a young voter. But I’ve been a Democrat my whole life. I kept informed the best way I could and it has only gotten easier to research a candidate. American voters are lazy.




gordianot

(15,727 posts)
48. I got my shot in on Trumpers on the Walmart parking lot.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 2024

Yeah it will be great when income taxes are eliminated when replaced by tarrifs. “Damn strait brother.” I walked away with a massive shit eating grin. Suckers all. Am not exactly sure he said that just implied it.

dlk

(13,091 posts)
54. If someone doesn't understand how a tariff works or
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:58 PM
Nov 2024

What the word authoritarian means, how passive is it to not even bother to Google the terms?

LisaM

(29,464 posts)
56. I don't think he'll do more than lip service to impose tariffs.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 2024

It's the kind of thing he says he will do but won't. He's too lazy and his business cronies won't like it.

That will piss off his base anyway.

Old Crank

(6,591 posts)
59. Tariffs will hurt foreign companies
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:01 PM
Nov 2024

Their sales are likely to drop to some degree. How much will depend on the company and the goods. The tax will hurt businesses here unless they can source everything from the US and their supplies also source from the US.
But a company i the US is likely to put the squeeze on US costumers by raising their prices to collect a greater profit.

Tariffs are pretty much a lose lose proposition unless very narrowly targeted.

Baitball Blogger

(51,624 posts)
60. DU's next Mission:
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:02 PM
Nov 2024

When anyone sees someone lamenting their vote, they need to post on DU under the caption, DU this link, and give us a chance to go in and comment to let them know how we feel about it.

poli-junkie

(1,480 posts)
62. This reminds me of pro Brexit voters
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:03 PM
Nov 2024

who googled “What is Brexit?” after their vote and soon regretted it!

Aussie105

(7,527 posts)
127. Brexit was a 100% appeal to emotionalism and Nationalism.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:22 PM
Nov 2024

That foreign worker who put up your gazebo, taking a job away from a Britisher!

Except - keep the foreign workers out of the UK, and your gazebo won't find a local person to erect it.

Well, possibly at more expense and you'd be on the waiting list because the local guy is too busy.

Same for the US really.

tanyev

(48,563 posts)
152. Exactly what I was going to post.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:13 AM
Nov 2024

It's all fun and games and "own the libs" until they realize they're going to be hurt by it, too.

cstanleytech

(28,164 posts)
63. A bunch of fucking morons fucked everyone by voting for Trump and they can go fuck themselves. 🖕
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:03 PM
Nov 2024

AntiFascist

(13,718 posts)
69. Also Musk has warned that there will need to be a period of 'hardship' in order to reduce the deficit....
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:09 PM
Nov 2024
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/elon-musk-trump-hardship-austerity-taxes-rcna177732

A deficit that will likely explode once Trump grants tax cuts to the wealthy and requires massive spending for deportation.

lark

(25,838 posts)
71. They fucked us over on purpose, and they can't be fucked enough to make up for it.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 2024

They still hurt and maybe destroyed our nation based on greed, stupidity and hate.

GB_RN

(3,501 posts)
72. NOW?!?!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:15 PM
Nov 2024

They’re having second thoughts NOW?!?! Jesus H. Christ on a stick! This has to be the dumbest bunch of idiots on the goddamned planet!

Message for you, you stupid, fucked up, shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool, thoughtless, self-centered, goddamned, Epimetheus-wannabe motherfuckers! It’s TOO goddamned late to be questioning his bullshit! You just HAD to have your “throw the bums out” moment. So you voted for the assclown without questioning a goddamned thing. You opened Pandora’s Box and you can’t put all the coming shitstorm back in it. What makes this so, so much fucking worse, you did so, while completely ignoring all the warnings about him from damned near everyone who worked in Caligula’s first maladministration. Congratulations, dumbfucks, you just won the dumbass-prize of the millennium.

Oh, and fuck you. Absolutely FUCK you and the horses you rode in on. When we’re all struggling from his tariff-induced inflation, selling out our allies and boiling the planet our kids and grandchildren will have to live in, guess fucking what? You will get absolutely NO sympathy from me. Not a goddamned yocto-meter’s (1.0E -24) worth.

Go fuck yourselves. /rant🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

xuplate

(155 posts)
73. Oops
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:16 PM
Nov 2024

This happened in the UK. The day after the Brexit vote Google had a surge of inquiries regarding Brexit. Some humans are like moths to a flame.

Beartracks

(14,294 posts)
75. "did not anticipate how Trump's (proposals) would affect them directly."
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:16 PM
Nov 2024

It's not like Democrats and non-rightwing media and other news sources weren't warning about these effects all over the place. But, geeze, people, you gotta look up from social media, Fox News, and opinion/talk radio and stop letting yourself get spoon-fed whatever corporate/foreign/extremist talking points, "alternative facts," both-siderism, wishful thinking, and obvious conspiracy theories are being thrown at you. DEMOCRACTY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT. It requires your constant attention and involvement, election to election. You need to seek out answers to your questions from multiple and reputable sources and experts -- all easy to find on the internet -- so that you can make truly INFORMED decisions for your family and your future. Wake up to the reality that MAGA Republicans are all talk but no compassion, no honor, and no interest in public service. They are not your friends and never have been.

=============================

dgauss

(1,482 posts)
76. I bet Fox news is already busy figuring out how to blame the democrats
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:17 PM
Nov 2024

for all the damage Trump is going to do.

nmmi

(248 posts)
78. Here's a good not-too-long article on the whole tariffs thing
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:20 PM
Nov 2024
Trump’s tariff plan: Why he’s pushing for them, and how they might end up raising prices, CNBC, 11/8/24
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/07/trumps-tariff-plan-how-tariffs-work-why-they-might-increase-prices.html

A summary in my words except where I have an excerpt box -

tRump indicated the tariff revenue collected by the federal government could pay for eliminating some or all of income taxes. But the Tax Foundation found that it wouldn't even be enough to pay for a continuation of the tRump 2017 tax cuts (that are scheduled to go away at the end of 2025). Let alone a full replacement of the income tax, which the Peterson Institute for International Economics called “literally impossible.”

The importing company pays the tax, and generally passes the cost along to consumers (us)

The Peterson Institute for International Economics pegs the yearly cost at $2,600 per household. The Tax Foundation says a 10% universal tariff would increase taxes on U.S. households by $1,253 on average in 2025, and a 20% universal tariff would bump costs by $2,045.

Expect a reaction from other countries that then impose tariffs on U.S. products ... what you end up with is a trade war and higher consumer prices in both the U.S. and in these other countries.

MAGAnomics

Pinback

(13,485 posts)
83. Ready - Fire - Aim
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:25 PM
Nov 2024

I actually doubt most of them will understand they’ve been hoodwinked. The Magats will swallow whatever line the RW media, Joe Rogan, et al. feel them, and the completely clueless will continue being completely clueless.

There may be a small percentage who realize or learn what’s really going on, but I’m not expecting much in the way of Trump voter enlightenment. Most folks will go back to working their asses off, taking care of their families and trying to pay the bills, with little regard for what’s happening in D.C. We’ll see how things play out.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
84. Yep
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:30 PM
Nov 2024

You would think they could’ve figured that out before they voted but no, I guess not. I have to buy a new car as my over 20-year-old car now can no longer be passed for inspection. I was planning on buying a used car from a dealer that’s in pretty good condition. I hope the prices will be not be increasing on those cars. I was planning to wait until January. Hopefully I can get it done before there are any increases if it’s going to affect my purchase.

UpInArms

(53,930 posts)
85. This is my last week
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:31 PM
Nov 2024

With my trumper bosses. I turned in my resignation last Wednesday.

It was a beautiful thing and I look forward to my next adventure.

GoCubsGo

(34,624 posts)
88. They're cut from the same bolt of cloth as the Brits who voted for Brexit,
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:37 PM
Nov 2024

and googled "What is Brexit?" after the fact. There are ignorant dumbasses everywhere. And, the rest of us have to suffer for it.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
120. That's what gets on my nerves
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:10 PM
Nov 2024

I'm sick of suffering because of these dumb fucks.

It's so draining..

littlemissmartypants

(31,351 posts)
91. Poor dears...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:40 PM
Nov 2024

Maybe Daddy Trump will let them break down the payments like Amazon...


Example:
$129.99
Or
$13.06/mo (12 mo).

Total plan interest/fee

Plan applies to
Card rewards

12 equal monthly payments

(approval required. No late fees.)

$13.06 /mo*
x 12

Select
$26.73

(10-36% APR)

*
The monthly payment shown is for this item only and does not include the cost of other items or add-ons in your cart.


Bla..bla..bla...idiots.

Aussie105

(7,527 posts)
93. The old dog catcher is retiring!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:48 PM
Nov 2024

So the city had to vote for a new one.

Voters didn't like the dog catcher, and what he did.
He just did his job, did it well, but never boasted about it.

Instead, the voters voted for the dogs.
The status quo had to be disrupted, turned upside down.
They never thought it through.

That should work out well, right?
When the dogs come to your house uninvited and empty your pantry, your fridge, ask yourself:
Who did you vote for, what did you expect?

AllaN01Bear

(28,455 posts)
100. be careful what you wish for . bay come back to bite you! and if they cut your ss ssi ssd , dont come whining to
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:16 PM
Nov 2024

me about it.

NBachers

(19,120 posts)
101. My black heart thrives on their regret and misery. I embrace the power of the dark side for them.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:17 PM
Nov 2024

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
102. Fuck them. Fuck them all without exception. And...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:18 PM
Nov 2024

...fuck everyone who still votes for that party for any reason after everything that's happened just in the last 8 years alone. The only Republicans I have any respect for are the ones who had enough integrity to leave the party in the 2016 exodus after Trump first clinched the nomination. That's it.

BattleRow

(2,084 posts)
103. Thank God for Kentucky Bourbon!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:18 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Sun Nov 10, 2024, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Please dont tell me it's actually made in China!

mwooldri

(10,779 posts)
122. Fortunately it's not.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:11 PM
Nov 2024

However the barrels used to age the bourbon can only be used once. Normally they are sold on abroad, Scottish whisky distillers often use bourbon barrels.

Those barrels might be cheaper elsewhere after the tariffs are imposed. If not, those barrels are going to be more expensive to sell because countries will impose retaliatory tariffs on US goods. Up goes the cost of Scotch for everyone. Not to mention Scotch will be more expensive in the US as a result. Oh and that Kentucky Bourbon will be pricier overseas too.

So for a while you might have cheaper bourbon. Until the distillers adjust to the new lower demand and make less.

BattleRow

(2,084 posts)
125. I'm planning to stock up on a lot of items
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:17 PM
Nov 2024

Also,purchasing appliances while they are not affected by tariffs.

Black Friday should be a blowout later this month,btw

mwooldri

(10,779 posts)
146. Not commonplace but it is done.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:46 AM
Nov 2024

Anything that may need a bourbon flavour. Googling around I learned Tabasco sauce uses used bourbon barrels.

BattleRow

(2,084 posts)
148. I recall seeing a program on public TV about winemaking and
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:08 AM
Nov 2024

they aged their wine in old whiskey barrels that had purchased from U .S..

Very interesting about Tabasco,though

Thanks for the input!

COL Mustard

(7,924 posts)
105. "I love the poorly educated" said Trump years ago.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:25 PM
Nov 2024

Duh. Duh. Duh. Because of these idiots and their "so-called" research, the rest of us are stuck with asshole for 4 more years.

BattleRow

(2,084 posts)
151. Lincoln said God must have loved poor folks cause he made so many of them.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:12 AM
Nov 2024

God must have recently edited that to mean poor and ignorant.

Many of us will be joining the poor category methinks.

Turbineguy

(39,790 posts)
111. But he said he would only harm women, brown skinned people and gays!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:39 PM
Nov 2024

And that the Chinese would pay the tariffs. You know, the way Mexico paid for the wall.

112. You were going to own the libs; you've ended up owning yourselves.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 2024

Hang in there, Red Hats. It's going to get worse -- a lot worse. You have willingly handed a criminal sociopathic narcissist near absolute power over your lives. Now that he and his acolytes have gotten what they wanted -- power -- they will discard you like a used tissue. Elon Musk has already spelled it out: "It's going to be hard temporarily." Define "hard" and define "temporarily."

It certainly won't be hard on Elon Musk.

You have sentenced your daughters and their daughters to a life of sorrow and servitude as second-class citizens. Some of them you have sentenced to a horrible death. The slogan, "Your body, my choice" has already taken hold. That's on you.

Want to know what's in store for you? Here it is. The ACLU's analysis is here.

Your lives are going to turn to shit, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.

I would say, "We told you so," but I'm above such childish taunts.

No I'm not. I told you so.

Aussie105

(7,527 posts)
118. I second that emotion!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:01 PM
Nov 2024

But do your best to protect yourself and those you care about as best as you can.

Republicans make great attack dogs in a battle.

But once they win, they tend to stuff up big time.

GaYellowDawg

(5,071 posts)
119. Too late. Their regret is worthless.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:02 PM
Nov 2024

I really don't have the words to describe the contempt I feel for them and their regrets.

SWBTATTReg

(25,990 posts)
121. Good. I hope that they choke on it. Thinking that the grass was greener on the side of one who literally promises
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:10 PM
Nov 2024

everything but never delivers. That's tRUMP. Biden was and is doing a pretty damn good job. Credit is definitely due to him for his work on this, in stinting the inflation wolf, w/o impacting the economy too badly.

But now, it's all messed up. Stock up on stuff that you'll need, as I suspect tRUMP will mess things up, w/ the economy via the Exports/Imports and tariffs and other stuff that we haven't heard of yet. Keep cash on hand too. I just don't trust him or his crazy band of misfits that he seems to get from TV land or elsewhere. Where they're going isn't TV land, it's reality and I think that this is going to hurt a lot of folks having this mentality.

BlueKota

(5,031 posts)
128. Cry us a river asshats
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:24 PM
Nov 2024

Other people have to fear for their lives because of the brain dead stupid asshats. And no I am never going to apologize for not joining hands with them and singing Kumbya.

Aussie105

(7,527 posts)
131. Fingers crossed!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:28 PM
Nov 2024

Hopefully mass deportations and stifling tariffs won't ever happen.

Trump has a concept of a plan, but he rarely goes beyond that.
The wall, a replacement for Obamacare/healthcare are good examples of jobs left unfinished.

Those 'promises' had the desired effect, they made low information voters vote him in.
He can drop those promises now.

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
132. From the bottom of my stone-cold heart...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:31 PM
Nov 2024

Fuck them. I can’t wait to hear their cries in four years.

Low information voters. Again — fuck. them.

moonscape

(5,624 posts)
133. He's not going to do broad-sweeping
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:33 PM
Nov 2024

tariffs. He’s going to monetize the threat of them, selectively punish and reward.

Going to be a cluster.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
135. Who gets the money from tariffs?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:43 PM
Nov 2024

A tariff is a tax, usually paid by the customer.
Sometimes by the selling country but not often.
It is not called a tax, but my wallet does not know the difference.

https://tinyurl.com/25cw2c5b

A quick primer on tariffs: They’re a tax on imported goods — clothes, shoes, toys, car parts, appliances, you name it. But the extra money does not come from the foreign companies that produce those goods. The American company doing the importing pays the money to the US Treasury.
(That means the gov't.--- the administration.)
They don't seem to mention that they are collecting more taxes.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
136. A Viral Case of Buyer's Remorse...and So Quick This Time!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:57 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:21 AM - Edit history (3)

Will be fun seeing them lined up at the food banks and soup kitchens. Such a deserving bunch of rabid, shit-slinging flying monkeys.

hadEnuf

(3,509 posts)
137. Awwww, buyer's remorse Trumpsters?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:58 PM
Nov 2024

Guess you should have actually thought about it instead of sitting in front of FOX news in a stupor.

Tough shit and fuck you. Hope Trump screws you silly.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
141. Fuck the whole lot of those dumb ass MAGA motherfuckers. They fucked around now it is time for them to fucking find out.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:16 PM
Nov 2024

get the red out

(13,938 posts)
144. The only thing that will help soothe
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 2024

the suffering for us will be seeing Trump voters suffer too. At least we knew what would happen, fuck them and their ignorance. All Trump voters are willfully ignorant pieces of shit. And no, I don’t need to feel for the poor things because they have been fooled. All these fools believed exactly what they wanted to believe. They have ingrained racism, misogyny, religious fanaticism, or some foul combo that wouldn’t let any rationality connect. Anyone who has never had the common decency to do some self-examination regarding horrific thinking they may have been raised with is useless to me. Mentally lazy SOBs who disguarded any potential empathy. How do I possibly know anything about these types? 60 years in Kentucky.

louis-t

(24,566 posts)
158. They will be few and far between.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:32 AM
Nov 2024

As the poorest of the maga crowd is dumpster diving and looking for handouts so they can eat, most will still say "Yeah but, isn't it better?"

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