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CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
1. Not all NG is produced through fracking but all fracking is done to produce NG (I think)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:09 AM
Dec 2012

They have pulled NG for years without fracking.

So yes it is the gas that comes PARTLY from fracking. Most of it is from non-fracking at this time.

Oklahoma is big on NG. It is heating me as I type.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. Fracking is done to obtain oil from shale/coal formations and gas production results also
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
Dec 2012

in many cases. Fracking also is done in formations that do not produce oil, just for the gas.

I cannot say this is accurate info below. It just hit my inbox as a forward from someone working in the new oil fields.

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since
Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to

eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates

it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable( 5 billion barrels), at $107 a barrel,

we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.

"When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor.

They had no idea.." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

"This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years," reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette .

It's a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.'

It stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada .

For years, U. S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end.

Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago.

However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves,

and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil,

those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL !!!!!!

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.

And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - because it's from 2006 !!!!!!

U.. S. Oil Discovery - Largest Reserve in the World

Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world.

It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction.

In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted.

With this motherload of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?

They reported this stunning news:

We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.

Here are the official estimates:

8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia

18 times as much oil as Iraq

21 times as much oil as Kuwait

22 times as much oil as Iran

500 times as much oil as Yemen

and it's all right here in the Western United States !!!!!!

HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil!
Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy. WHY?

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this very compact area
than the entire Middle East , more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post .

Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price even with this find? Think again! It's all about the competitive marketplace, it has to.

Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?

Got your attention yet? Now, while you're thinking about it, do this:

Pass this along. If you don't take a little time to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time

you complain about gas prices, by doing NOTHING, you forfeit your right to complain.

Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if every one of you sent this to every one in your address book.

By the way, this can be verified. Check it out at the link below !!!!!!

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

ag_dude

(562 posts)
4. Natural Gas comes from just about all forms of oil production
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:13 AM
Dec 2012

The lower prices are due primarily to fracking which has flooded the market with CNG.

While fracking was originally targeting the production of natural gas, when the prices got especially low, they focused more on oil production. At least that's what happened in south Texas with the Eagle Ford.

a kennedy

(29,680 posts)
5. D*mn, I thought so.....
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:13 AM
Dec 2012

lotsa meetings going on around here for the sand in the fracking process.....lotsa permits being considered. Evidently the sand around this Mississippi river area is prime sand for this.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
7. I don't know how she can say it's $2 cheaper. It's a gas and not a liquid.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:17 AM
Dec 2012

We measure NG by cubic feet at atmospheric pressure. Its volume is decreased when it is compressed for storage at the station or in the motor vehicle.

Where is that motor fuel tax taken into account? Do NG users pay motor fuel tax? I don't know.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
9. The price of natural gas (compressed or not) dropped from about $9 to about $2.50
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:24 AM
Dec 2012

Natural gas is compressed as and after it is cleaned at the surface. It is sold by its potential heat content in a scheme by which 1,000,000 BTUs (or 1,000 cubic feet) equals one unit. At the beginning of this century gas was selling for about $9 per million. That dropped down to a low of about $2.50 and is now hovering around $3.30. That drop in gas prices has a small effect on gasoline price because one is not easily substituted for the other, but it has a greater effect on the price of coal. The reason for that is that it is relatively easy to convert a coal fired power plant over to natural gas and of course it is much cleaner to operate the plant on gas, which saves the producer a great deal of money.

But back to fracking. Fracking, or fracturing, is just breaking up the structure in which the gas is trapped so that it can migrate to the well. Generally this is done by sending something (stuff) down hole under great pressure and that something, or stuff, will then either physically or chemically allow the gas to flow. The problems arise when that material that is used in the fracking then migrates back up the hole and is at its worst when it mingles with the ground-water.

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