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MineralMan

(150,864 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 12:55 PM Nov 2024

The Biggest Losers Following Trump's Election - They Don't Even Know It's Coming

Palestinians in the USA and Outside of It- Many voted for Trump because reasons. They didn't notice Trump's strong ties to Israel's Netanyahu?

NATO - Be afraid. Be very afraid. Trump doesn't like NATO. You know what he likes? Putin.

United Nations - Looks like the nutcase Right will finally get what they've wanted since the 1950s. Trump's not a fan of the UN, either.

Non-Christians and Liberal Christian Denominations - Trump has vast support in the Christofascist community. They don't like non-Christians. They don't like liberal Christian denominations. Watch your 6.

Muslims - Many Muslims in the USA voted for Trump. Why? Trump opened his first term by declaring that he'd ban Muslims from coming to the USA. Did you think he has changed his tune? He has not.

Jewish People Everywhere - Trump had massive support from anti-Semitic, NAZI-loving groups in the USA. He remembers that very well. You should remember that, too.

Women - Trump and many of his supporters are essentially misogynistic incels. They only like submissive, pretty women. Look at who they surround themselves with. Trump has money. Trump says he'll "protect women." He means that he will lock women into being submissive, "whether they like it or not". Beware!

LGBTQ+ Folks - You already know. Be careful. Consider your options carefully.

Everyone Else - Did you vote for Kamala? Trump hates you for that. Keep your eyes open.

People of Color - Goes without saying, really...

That's all for now.
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The Biggest Losers Following Trump's Election - They Don't Even Know It's Coming (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2024 OP
Immigrants. They're at the top of the list. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #1
Yes, to all your additions. MineralMan Nov 2024 #3
Native Americans, Original Peoples Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #32
Blue states. live love laugh Nov 2024 #2
Well, they voted for Kamala, so, there it is. MineralMan Nov 2024 #4
My parents think I'm nuts for saying that Trump is going to use the military on blue states. Initech Nov 2024 #6
Red states shouldn't expect much help either. DFW Nov 2024 #18
Elon Musk Initech Nov 2024 #5
Yes, Noel Skum needs to remember his place. MineralMan Nov 2024 #7
He should be made to watch Lethal Weapon II again DFW Nov 2024 #20
Thanks for the anagram Schlocko Nov 2024 #26
prepare for unspeakable horrors cynical_idealist Nov 2024 #8
What our "six" that we have to watch? CTyankee Nov 2024 #9
Military scout speak. MineralMan Nov 2024 #11
As we are all about to learn some pain. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #10
I don't think he can leave NATO the way he did in his first term. Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #12
Did you forget who won both houses of Congress? MineralMan Nov 2024 #13
I've been reading filibuster rules. Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #14
The filibuster will be the first thing to go liberalgunwilltravel Nov 2024 #16
I agree Dave says Nov 2024 #36
Nope. WestMichRad Nov 2024 #19
Muslims.. We tried to Warn them.. Did they Listen?.. Cha Nov 2024 #15
I notice hundreds of male citizens of Dearborn, Michigan DFW Nov 2024 #25
Hourly workers. Demobrat Nov 2024 #17
Trump Don't Care! MineralMan Nov 2024 #22
And I'm wondering why I should. Demobrat Nov 2024 #30
At that point it will be ... Dave says Nov 2024 #42
I wonder what will have to happen Demobrat Nov 2024 #43
I get disability I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2024 #44
Cue surprised Muslim and Latino faces looking out from the deportation bus RealityBasedNewYorkr Nov 2024 #21
Don't Forget the Press! cer7711 Nov 2024 #23
Good Addition. MineralMan Nov 2024 #24
losers voteragain Nov 2024 #27
#4 in that list (liberal Christian denominations) is quite prescient. keep_left Nov 2024 #28
I think this identity politics... orwell Nov 2024 #29
Vivek? Nimble_Idea Nov 2024 #40
Grok? orwell Nov 2024 #41
Fuck that noise orangecrush Nov 2024 #31
Best answer Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #34
Thank you orangecrush Nov 2024 #38
Everybody. Girard442 Nov 2024 #33
Many of us know what's coming Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #35
You missed a really big block of people: SunSeeker Nov 2024 #37
I am terrified I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2024 #45
you forgot ketchup packets, so you don't win the mc'dees fries. Nimble_Idea Nov 2024 #39
I prefer the boardwalk fries I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2024 #46

Ocelot II

(129,722 posts)
1. Immigrants. They're at the top of the list.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:03 PM
Nov 2024

Doesn't matter if they have kids or spouses. Some US citizens are likely to get caught in the dragnet, so all citizens and legal residents better have their documents in order. And we all need to protect all of our immigrant neighbors.

Journalists - at least the ones who dare to criticize Dear Leader. Better self-censor or the censoring will be done for you.

Teachers and librarians. Are your classes too woke? Have you dared to acknowledge the existence of LGBTQ people in your classroom, or the fact that Black people were enslaved not all that long ago? Does your classroom or library have books that mention these topics?

MineralMan

(150,864 posts)
3. Yes, to all your additions.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:15 PM
Nov 2024

My list is incomplete, of course.

Even MAGA people are going to need to watch their backs. He doesn't like poor people. So, look out.

MineralMan

(150,864 posts)
4. Well, they voted for Kamala, so, there it is.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:16 PM
Nov 2024

Those states shouldn't expect much when they have their next natural disaster.

Initech

(107,962 posts)
6. My parents think I'm nuts for saying that Trump is going to use the military on blue states.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:19 PM
Nov 2024

With one party rule, it's not a question of "if", anymore. It's a question of "when".

DFW

(59,876 posts)
18. Red states shouldn't expect much help either.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:59 PM
Nov 2024

Trump is not exactly the grateful type, and he will have enough “God’s will” supporters whispering in his ear that he doesn’t have to spend one federal cent even if 63% of Tennessee gets washed into Mississippi and Alabama.

Initech

(107,962 posts)
5. Elon Musk
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:17 PM
Nov 2024

A whole bunch of people just left Xitter, and they're showing up at BlueSky. Plus he's already being called the annoying guest who won't leave at Mar-A-Shithole.

DFW

(59,876 posts)
20. He should be made to watch Lethal Weapon II again
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 2024

Someone should remind him he does NOT have diplomatic immunity.

MineralMan

(150,864 posts)
11. Military scout speak.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:05 PM
Nov 2024

Think of a clock face. 12 is straight ahead. 6 is behind you. Someone always needs to be looking back for danger.

Baitball Blogger

(51,895 posts)
12. I don't think he can leave NATO the way he did in his first term.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:10 PM
Nov 2024

Didn't we pass a law to make sure that it has to go through Congress first?

Baitball Blogger

(51,895 posts)
14. I've been reading filibuster rules.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:19 PM
Nov 2024

They need 2/3rd to override a filibuster. I don't think they can walk in and just prohibit them all together, can they?

What might happen, is that for the next four years, the world will learn how to live without us. And, what Elon is experiencing with X may also happen to American companies. If that happens, we need Dems to step in and explain it to the idiots in this country.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,123 posts)
16. The filibuster will be the first thing to go
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:57 PM
Nov 2024

Republicans will change the Senate rules to drop the filibuster. It will be one of their first actions. Bet on it.

WestMichRad

(3,063 posts)
19. Nope.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 2024

Currently, it’s 60 votes, not 2/3, to overcome a filibuster. But do you really think that arcane rule of the Senate will survive beyond the first week of January? I don’t.

Cha

(317,702 posts)
15. Muslims.. We tried to Warn them.. Did they Listen?..
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:33 PM
Nov 2024

NO. the mayor of Dearborn said they went throughTSF's first term.. they'd Do It Again.

So they decided to Fuck with Ameria's Democracy.

DFW

(59,876 posts)
25. I notice hundreds of male citizens of Dearborn, Michigan
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:21 PM
Nov 2024

Lining up for residence visas to move to the Middle East to rebuild Gaza. They are willing to give up their comparatively comfortable Michigan lifestyle to contribute their time and money to the cause. They are certainly more engaged than just parading in Michigan with Palestinian flags and shouting chants that directly or indirectly call for Israel’s destruction.

Well, OK, maybe not.

For decades, my German wife has been pissed at her government for contributing billions to the West Bank and Gaza without ever once asking where the money went, or how come practically no improvements were to be seen from it. There have been enough documentaries on German TV showing the McVillas of the Hamas leadership billionaires in Qatar. Then, again, when Cheney-Bush admitted that “$8 or 9 billion in US cash” vanished in the Iraqi desert 20 years ago, no one seemed interested in raising a big stink in Washington about that, either.

Demobrat

(10,270 posts)
17. Hourly workers.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 2024

No overtime. No sick pay. No workmen’s compensation.
For some reason, this scenario horrifies me the most. Blue collar workers without livable wages or any safety net at all.

Demobrat

(10,270 posts)
30. And I'm wondering why I should.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:33 PM
Nov 2024

I want to just say they asked for this …. But unfortunately there is no they.

I wonder for how long after the immigrants are gone they will continue to blame the immigrants for their plight.

Dave says

(5,348 posts)
42. At that point it will be ...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:06 PM
Nov 2024

… the absence of immigrants that will “be responsible” for their plight. It will take the form, without safety nets, of unemployed working the fields and cleaning hotel rooms; higher prices; unavailability of some fresh groceries. You know, the plight many of them voted for.

Demobrat

(10,270 posts)
43. I wonder what will have to happen
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:40 PM
Nov 2024

before they will actually have to take the jobs that are beneath them now. Skyrocketing prices? No jobs that pay more? Disability checks cut in half? It’s going to take a lot to get the beer guts out into the fields. What is it going to be?

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,351 posts)
44. I get disability
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:43 PM
Nov 2024

And the future makes me feel nothing but despair and dread and I very well may die because of trump.

A lot of people on disability are dems and are actually disabled. It is very hard to qualify for disability and equating disability with scamming lazy beer gut asshole trumpers pisses me off.

21. Cue surprised Muslim and Latino faces looking out from the deportation bus
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:03 PM
Nov 2024

“But I didn’t think he was really going to deport us!”

cer7711

(610 posts)
23. Don't Forget the Press!
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:19 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Thu Nov 14, 2024, 04:56 PM - Edit history (2)

The Press: "Enemies of the people", right?
Trump suggested a future would-be assassin "fire through" ranks of assembled press when targeting him.
Who says thngs like that?!
A demented sociopath; that's who.
"Fol-low your lea-der, for he is nothing either . . ."

voteragain

(52 posts)
27. losers
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:27 PM
Nov 2024

Americans of all stripes and occupations.
it doesn't matter if trump dies today. the Pandora's box has been opened.
it will be closed again but it will be at a great cost.....

keep_left

(3,187 posts)
28. #4 in that list (liberal Christian denominations) is quite prescient.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:33 PM
Nov 2024

Trump has been sucking up to various extremist factions in American Christianity for some time now, particularly the fundamentalist evangelicals and the radtrad Catholics. Those groups already represent really nasty schisms within their own churches (for example, the radtrads are notorious for tearing apart existing churches; I've witnessed it personally on two occasions myself). During both his 2016 and 2024 Presidential runs, Trump and his cronies made regular appearances on fundamentalist and radtrad media (CBN, EWTN, etc.).

https://democraticunderground.com/100219677391#post40 (see paragraph #2-3)

orwell

(8,003 posts)
29. I think this identity politics...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:33 PM
Nov 2024

...is no longer a valid paradigm.

We must as a party speak to class. That is what they are doing with deception and propaganda.

We need to have the courage to do it with truth.

Oligarchs and fascists are taking over globally. This is not a national reality, it is international. While much of this is post Covid blowback, the fascists were ready and they implemented one of the great propaganda campaigns in recent memory.

We got caught defending what most of the public believes are corrupt and ineffective institutions.

It was a simple choice for many, even to the point of electing a serial rapist.

This should have been lay up.

Girard442

(6,838 posts)
33. Everybody.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 2024

TSF has no concept of decency or loyalty or gratitude. He'd toss his own kids into a raging fire if it would put some $$$ into his pocket.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,183 posts)
35. Many of us know what's coming
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 04:04 PM
Nov 2024

It never goes away . The horror of this presidency will surpass anything that has happened in our living memory.

SunSeeker

(57,884 posts)
37. You missed a really big block of people:
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 2024
Red State Poor White People - they are being kept alive by SNAP, disability benefits, Social Security, federally subsidized housing and Medicare. Elon Musk is coming to give those folks "pain."

The five states with the highest percentage of people collecting disability benefits are:
West Virginia – 8.9%
Alabama – 8.4%
Arkansas – 8.4%
Kentucky – 8.1%
Mississippi – 7.9%
https://www.longtermdisabilitylawyer.com/2017/08/states-americans-disability/

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,351 posts)
45. I am terrified
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:47 PM
Nov 2024

Of the kind of pain sociopath rich never had to suffer poverty 1day in thier life fucking over the disabled will cause me.

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