Anybody else's family in a shambles due to this election?

[Coventina]

Mine is.

On one side is me, my sister, her SO, and my husband

On the other: my dad & his wife

In the middle: My brother & his wife (they are anti-Trump but maintain that "everyone has a right to their opinion)

Fuck the fascists. Fuck Trump.

He has destroyed this country.

[Kaleva]

1. No. The election is in the past and folks have moved on

People are glad the constant ads and flyers in the mail box are over. Yard signs in the area came down pretty quick. Within a day or two of the election.

[NoRethugFriends]

4. Well, as long as that's all gone, that's the important part

[Cha]

6. OmGosh.. I know

Right? SMH.

[Kaleva]

39. Nobody's talking about it

[orleans]

19. "1. No. The election is in the past and folks have moved on"

??

i hope

[Kaleva]

40. The family isn't in a shambles because of the election

Was I supposed to lie?

[CrispyQ]

52. Maybe you should edit that to read, "MY family isn't in shambles..."

And good for you, but lots of families & friendships are.

[Kaleva]

57. Isn't that already evident?

The O P asked "Anybody else's family in a shambles due to this election?" and I answered.

[CrispyQ]

71. Most people personalized the word when they're referring to their own family, but whatever. -nt

[Kaleva]

75. They didn't need to

Why you would think that I was talking about numerous other families besides my own is beyond me. The OP asked a simple, specific question and I gave an answer.

[Jk23]

108. My is not either (Though Thanksgiving is coming up so we shall see.)

I mean politics is just something we don't bring up like Aunt Lucy's latest DUI. The advantage of being a distant WASP family I guess.

[jimfields33]

41. That seems to be the consensus around here.

Not just family, but everyone. Most couldn’t stand the constant commercials, mail boxes filled with political mailings, and texts every five minutes. I think most are just glad it’s over.

[Kaleva]

43. I agree. Most seem glad it's over with

[peregrinus]

53. Don't know what planet you are on

[Kaleva]

60. The planet where reality rules

My family isn't in a shambles because of the election. People have moved on. They are glad the ads on tv have ceased and there's no more flyers in their mail.

[peregrinus]

65. Well I already know I can't have a serious conversation with you.

Really rules? Have you been paying attention? We live in a post-truth society

[GP6971]

74. Good morning Sunshine!!

How’s your day so far?

[Kaleva]

77. I know what's going on in my family

Why would you think I didn't.

[haele]

99. Most people's families are glad the election is over so they can go on with their lives -

Those are the approximate half the citizens in the US who didn't vote, one way or another.

The toxic or otherwise super-competitive families with loud, obnoxious man- and woman-children muddling their way through adulthood will be turning their families into shambles like a pack of feral teenagers.
Those of us who see the oncoming disaster and dismemberment of our Constitutional protections and government will probably upset the non-voters, though, so that might count as families in shambles for some as those non-voters push back from recriminations.

Haele

[DeepWinter]

104. Same here

My family is pretty mixed across the political spectrum. But they're all pretty low key and we've never fought over it. That families let politics split them, I know it's a thing, but it's pretty alien to me.

[FelineOverlord]

109. Nope

We will NEVER “move on.”

[Kaleva]

115. I'm already looking forward to 2026

[Abolishinist]

2. I'm lucky, we're all Dems.

Funny story (at least for me), my wonderful mother passed away a few years ago at the ripe old age of 99.

Several years after the former was elected, when she was around 96 or so, she said "if someone gave me a gun and I shot him, what could they do to an old woman like me?"

She was politically up-to-date until her very end, kept up with the news, knew all the issues, never repeated herself. I'm so lucky to have been her son.

[Cha]

8. What A MOM!

[magicarpet]

101. Sounds like a real charm.

[Trueblue1968]

3. Dems ... Me & hubby. Idiot Rumpers ... My sister, bro in law & their 4 adult "kids"

They hate my politics .....

We can not go over their house for Thanksgiving. They will bully me. ..... Ha !!! And they call themselves Evangelical Christians

. WWJD ....... Not what their family does that is for sure.

[Coventina]

24. My very sincere condolences.

And yes, the hypocrisy of so-called Christians is breath-taking.

[Cha]

5. We're All Kindred Spirits & Devasted

the Fascist Fuck is in the WH.

We're spread out all over the Country.. My Son & his family & Me on Kauai.. My Daughter & her extended Family in Porland Oregon & Seattle. My Sisters and their Families in Ashville and Gainesville, & St Pete, Florida. And my Niece in Connecticut.

I'm so sorry your family is split like that, Coventina. I remember the OP you made about the letter your sister wrote to your dad. Not exactly what it said but that she very Kindly called him out for supporting TSF.

"Everyone has a right to their Opinion" but it's Tough when those opinions cause Death to our Democracy.

[Coventina]

25. Thanks, Cha!!

I sent my own letter to my dad earlier today.

He never responded to my sisters, so I'm not really expecting a response to mine either.

[Cha]

35. You're Welcome, Coventina💙

It's cathartic for us to write down and reach out how we feel about all of this.. Something I heard Allison Gill/Mueller She Wrote say today and a lot of other things how best to manage what happened.

To Speak out so we know we're not alone and your OP has been excellent for That.

So Happy you & Arizona got Senator Elect Ruben Gallego!

[usonian]

7. Four of us, kinda spread out, agree.

Includes son in law.

[KT2000]

9. Nephew and

cousin.
Nephew maintains superior rights to me, now confirmed by the election. Cousin assured me my feelings were not relevant to her.

[oldmanlynn]

10. Family should be above politics

Stay close have a few conversations and learn to look past differences.

[niyad]

12. So people should just overlook the fact that their relatives voted to destroy

lives, to destroy our form of government, to be in thrall to putin? Seriously?

[womanofthehills]

45. Be the bigger person

Anger & meanness don’t help the world either.

[niyad]

51. There is NOTHING "bigger person" about accepting people who happily

voted to destroy our lives. Pretending they didn't do exactly that is only going to make the insanity worse. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.

[Skittles]

14. this is NOT normal politics

this is DEMOCRACY VS A FUCKING DICTATOR

[dmr]

84. Exactly! It's a stab in all our hearts.

This is NOT normal politics,
this is DEMOCRACY VS A FUCKING DICTATOR

[eppur_se_muova]

20. Just because I share a few genes with someone does not mean I share their morals or ethics.

Family get breaks that others do not because we know each other better and have each seen the best and worst of each other. But when a family member supports tsf and argues that they are completely in the right to do so, they get no special allowance for ignorance or stupidity.

I'd rather prune the family tree, no matter how heavily, than even hint at the possibility of giving these peoples' views any degree of legitimacy.

[Hippasus]

38. When I read comments...

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…here advocating putting my wife in a concentration camp, simply because of her identity and culture, I’m going to chose family.

[niyad]

54. Who here is advocating putting people in concentration camps? What are

you talking about?

[niyad]

64. Never saw that one.

[Skittles]

106. I have searched an I do not see it

although it is possible I already have such a moron on Ignore

[Skittles]

113. so that was another fucking troll?

they are coming out of the woodwork now

[niyad]

114. Yes, pretty sure it was. Must be the full moon!

[travelingthrulife]

48. What part of they are actively destroying our country has escaped you?

They say they want people like us dead. They should be our friends??

[Beacool]

102. Maybe in past elections.

This was a pivotal election. There's no excuse about lacking information or knowledge of what Trump and his brethren intend to do to the country. So, anyone who willingly voted for Trump and the circus that's about to hit town, can go screw themselves. No forgiveness, no forgetting.

[Beacool]

103. Maybe in past elections.

This was a pivotal election. There's no excuse about lacking information or knowledge of what Trump and his brethren intend to do to the country. So, anyone who willingly voted for Trump and the circus that's about to hit town, can go screw themselves. No forgiveness, no forgetting.

[Iggo]

11. No change.

Kicked a bunch of them to the curb after 2016, and most of the rest of ‘em after 2020 and during the pandemic. No more dipshits left to shun.

[niyad]

13. If we survive the coming horror, we should have a serious conversation

about tthis bizarre myth of the social construct called "family".

[Skittles]

15. I think family is sometimes WAY overrated

I will not put up with some fucking bigot, I DON'T CARE WHO THE FUCK THEY ARE. I wrote off an aunt when she wouldn't stop sending me racist memes about Barack and Michelle. SILENCE EQUALS AGREEMENT. *FUCK THAT*

[niyad]

16. I love the expression, "Your friends are god's way of apologizing for your

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relatives."

Of course, then one must ask, "So why in the f'n hell saddle us with said relatives in the first place???"

[Skittles]

18. *SNORT*

[eppur_se_muova]

21. I love this ! Had never heard it before, but don't think I can ever forget it now. nt

[niyad]

90. I tell people I have family of the heart, no family of the blood.

[mwb970]

27. People say "family is everything".

Sometimes it's nothing.

[Skittles]

30. sometimes it's crap

I grabbed a phone from a gay coworker who was in tears and being shamed by her bigoted mother and I ENDED THE CALL - I told her DON'T PUT UP WITH THAT CRAP FROM ANYONE - lo and behold, the mom frantically called back and said she was sorry

[niyad]

56. Sometimes "family"" is everything evil and destructive, and they need to be kicked

to the curb for one's safety and sanity.

[Hippasus]

34. The configuration of the family...

…and the sexual division of labor, from a historical point of view, is quite interesting.

My wife’s culture tends to be described (by historians and anthropologists) as a matrilineal social culture embedded within a the larger patrilineal political culture of la cultura mayor (of western culture).

In her culture, family is very important.

[DFW]

17. Thank the Great Spirit, no

We’re all on the same team. I even got my brother to start writing guest lyrics for The Freedom Toast!

[niyad]

23. Speaking of Freedom Toast, is a new video in the works?

[DFW]

32. Two minor ones

One about health care costs. It was put on the back burner due to the election. The other was one I had mothballed. It was about Kristi Noem. Now that she has been nominated to a cabinet position, it might again be worthy of consideration.

[niyad]

47. Very much looking forward to them.

Your "Whiter Shade of Fail", with the shoutout to atticus, shows up top of the list of recommends on youtube frequently for me.

[DFW]

62. I can only claim part of that.

Atticus had the idea and wrote what became the first and third verse. I asked him for his approval to run with it and make the video. When he said OK, I wrote the middle verse, and directed (from afar) the music track and the video. Atticus had the original inspiration. I know he saw it as a video, but heard nothing from him shortly after. Although I am loathe to make the speculation, as I recall, he lived alone and was retired. If he suffered a debilitating stroke (or worse), and had no immediate friends or family who was aware of his DU participation, there is no way we would have been informed of it. That could be the case for many of us, I suppose.

There are several of the videos that I wrote that have seen some serious popularity. My first collaboration with Don of the Parody Project, "Mar-a-Lagoville," is closing in on a million views. Ghost Donald In The Sky and a few others are well over half a million. Even "Whiter Shade of Fail" now has over 350,000 views. Unlike Randy Rainbow or some more famous others, we have no advertising or media interviews. We are OK with the viewers we have. It's just a hobby with me, and I'm in it for the fun, not the money. The modern day version of shouting from a rooftop, if you will.

[kozar]

22. My Gandfather,RIP once told me

As we were tossing hay bales in 1996,
Sweaty and tired, I asked him, " who ya voting for?"
He stopped, stared me down, and said, in his heavy German accent,
"Douglas,(Yes, it was Duckless, in his accent) we are family, we need to eat together, we need to to work together, we need to love,,each other. And we never talk politics with each other."
And then , he threw a hay bale, so hard, I was in my ass.
I still, try to live by his words,
" we never talk politics, with family"
Koz

[mwb970]

26. I have only one trump cultist in my life.

He's in my band, and we rarely discuss politics, so it's mostly OK.

[RockRaven]

28. The rifts in my family, which might have been MAGA-based, happened a few years

prior to 2015/6.

Had those events not happened, we'd have probably faced a TCF-based rift.

Instead it was an elder care/neglect -based rift. As it so happened, the pro elder neglect crowd is the people who were later MAGAts. Not exactly a surprise in hindsight, considering the values and motives expressed by either of those positions.

[Demanchor]

31. I told my family to fuck off in 2022

It’s been liberating.

I now see it’s a “thing”. Ghosting is mostly what people do. But there’s outright “get the fuck out of life” as well.

You do you. I did me. I’ll respect whatever you do.

I personally will never allow people like that in my life again.

I do me. You do you.

[kelly1mm]

33. Yes. Grandparents are excluding those who voted for VP Harris from Thanksgiving. They say they want a

peaceful holiday with no political drama ........

[Meowmee]

36. Worse

the psycho murdered my father and I have to see him put back in power…none of us would ever support that we are not stupid and have always been against fascism etc. and recognize it when we see it.

[Coventina]

37. How horrible.

The depths of depravity it took for 10s of millions of our fellow citizens to crown Trump king....

After he murdered your father and a million more.

It truly boggles the mind.

I am so sorry.

[BlueTsunami2018]

42. Not really.

There’s anger and disappointment at those who were fooled by the idiot but I’m not throwing away a lifetime of love over that asshole.

He doesn’t get to do that.

[travelingthrulife]

50. Enjoy their hatred and abuse then, I gues

[BlueTsunami2018]

55. They don't hate and abuse me.

What’s strange thing to say.

[niyad]

59. So glad they don't hate and abuse you. But their vote says they willingly

accept hating and abusing others.

[BlueTsunami2018]

72. They don't see it that way.

Which is where the anger and disappointment comes in. They see it in the opposite way thanks to the Fox/Newsmax bubble shit.

You’d be surprised how different the view is from there. Or maybe you wouldn’t be.

But I’m not turning my back on my dad for anyone or anything. He’s been too good to me for that.

[niyad]

87. Iit doesn't really matter what they believe. The results will be the same.

And we are all quite well aware of what the reichwing bubble tells them. It does not excuse their mental laziness in not actually checking things out.

Nobody is telling you to turn your back on your dad. Each person makes theirr own choice for their own reasons, based on their own circumstances.

[hatrack]

44. No, just permanently rearranged . . .

I'm not in a shambles.

Maybe those former family members on the other side will be, but I won't.

Sometimes anger is clarity.

[Johnny2X2X]

46. I am taking some time away from my mother

Haven't talked to her since and I won't see her at Thanksgiving. She's 82 and in poor health, but I am OK with not speaking with her again if that's what I decide.

[Bettie]

49. My son has a school play coming up

my DH's sister wants to come and see it. She loves my kids, but we are certain that she voted for the motherfucker.

DH still hasn't answered her text about it...I told him he can tell her to come, as I have another thing for the Saturday night performance, so I'll be attending Sunday afternoon with our other two sons.

But he's not sure he wants to have her there.

Again, she loves our kids...but right now, it's too soon.

We're also glad that this play is that weekend, so that we don't have to go to the big thanksgiving dinner on that weekend.

So, yeah.

Both of my brothers are magats as well. I don't speak to them. No reason to.

[Bettie]

82. Well aren't you adorable

have a nice stay.

[niyad]

88. Oh dear. Did I just miss another troll?

[Bettie]

89. Yeah...just wanted to tell us

that we are intolerant if we don't want to be around toxic people.

[niyad]

91. Awwww, isn't that just adorable???

[Bettie]

92. And joined today just to do that

must not get enough attention from his mommy.

[niyad]

95. I can see that I am going to have to pay much closer attention. My claws

need sharpening.

[JustAnotherGen]

61. I'm so sorry

I'm fortunate that my family only argues about who is more liberal.

[HereForTheParty]

63. What happened in 2016?

Was there a split? Trump has been around a while.

[hatrack]

68. Ever hear the expression "Third time's the charm"?

There are no excuses this time. None. "I thought he'd make America great again": "He's a strong leader"; "He's a businessman."

No. Unless you were in an 8-year coma, you have no justification and you can't unring the bell.

[HereForTheParty]

76. Okay what about 2020?

I can't understand why Trump would be creating a split in the family at this point.

[hatrack]

86. If you don't get it, my condolences.

Good luck with the rest of reality.

[Coventina]

96. My dad went from thinking Trump was a clown, to putting a sign in his yard. n/t

[Irish_Dem]

66. One of the goals of Putin/Trump/GOP is to destroy the fabric of American society.

They have been quite successful in this goal.

[hatrack]

69. True. But with lots of local help since the 1980s.

.

[Irish_Dem]

70. Yes that is why I stated it is also a GOP goal.

Divide and conquer.

[JohnSJ]

79. He is intentionally going out of his way to destroy the country. His appointments are evidence of that. I learned a

long time ago from work experience, when someone says they are going to do something, believe. Do not give them the benefit of the doubt.

He has said he will be their retribution, believe him.

[mucifer]

80. I have no trumpies in my family. But, it does drive me nuts when my brother goes on and on

about what Harris and Biden should have done.

But, I can just do my best to tune it out on Thanksgiving when he analyzes their faults. I'm grateful he and his wife and kids all voted for Harris.

[Gore1FL]

81. I've been fortunate to miss it, but I have seen it in others.

It's amazing. The "pro-family" crowd through their divisive and hateful behavior are finding themselves without a family.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

83. Everything Trump touches dies.

Including now, millions of families.

[sky_masterson]

93. I have 4 sisters whom I can't forgive

I forgave them after Bush 2 who lied us into a war and left us in a double dip recession.
I forgave them barely after 2016 for supporting Trump.
After all Trump has said and Promised to do and knowing it wasn't a dis-qualifier to them.
I can't do it.
I won't break bread with American Nazi's even if they are my blood.
Besides, they voted for the guy that is going to take away my Health Insurance and theirs. They are just too dumb to know it

[Maru Kitteh]

94. Naw, we shambled up when we saw their reaction to President Obama.

Me, Mr. Maru and the girls on one side - nearly everybody else on the other. It helps that we left them all behind on the Great Plains years ago. I don't have to pretend to care about people that hate me.

[sakabatou]

97. AFAIK, nearly all of my family is against Trump

I think two are third party/independent. Everyone else voted blue.

[Autumn]

98. Nope. I consider it much improved since I kicked three sisters and a few nephews to the curb.

A sister in law and a niece. Those last two really gave me the warn fuzzies. I have felt free since I no longer have to keep the peace.

[bmichaelh]

100. I am sole liberal in my family

Everyone in my family but myself are Trump supporters.

I am a lymphoma survivor and in my third remission.

I was first diagnosed in 1990.

I am in my third remission in part because ACA protects me against lifetime limits.

I tried to tell them multiple times; that if ACA is repealed and I lose lifetime limit protections, I would be at risk.

After the election, I have told them if I die because of anything Trump did, I would let people know.
They were horrified that I would do such a thing.

[In It to Win It]

105. We all voted for Kamala... so no.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

107. Nope. Family is love, life, and support. Losing family to politics is pathetic.

It ranks just below "Minor plumbing issues in my rental apartment" for priority.

[GoYouPackersGo]

111. My wife and I will likely divorce. She votes Democratic BUT

she refuses to stop seeing her MAGA family of origin and refuses to let our kids stop seeing them.

I will not attend her family gatherings, and she's pissed. This will probably be the end for us.

[leighbythesea2]

112. Some

Some undercurrents for sure.
Am in west Michigan which is red. Left here 20 years ago never planning to come back, but my mother needed me.
She passed December’23. She would be absolutely incensed at all this. I love her friends, but am not adopted daughter of them, ya know? I wish.

Am buying a house on the East side, a blue area. Would almost rather be where I don’t know anyone, but do know they voted for humanity.