If Trump cancels elections in 4 years

[peregrinus]

How would the U.S. public react?

[SoFlaBro]

1. By what fucking mechanism can Orange Bastard cancel elections? They are run at the state level.

[peregrinus]

4. Well the obvious way

Would be by force

[LymphocyteLover]

13. what is that-- send troops to every state election board?

[Blue Full Moon]

49. He wants them to take an oath to him and not constitution.

The Supreme Court told him that he could do as he pleases.

[LymphocyteLover]

61. Sure... but practically, what is he going to do?

[SoFlaBro]

58. Force how? Fucking shooting people at poll sites? Rounding up registered Democrats and assaulting them?

[Diraven]

5. Red state governors

Would follow his orders if it means they could stay in power forever.

[Irish_Dem]

10. I love your optimism and naivety.

And obviously have never spent time in a fascist or occupied country.

[vapor2]

2. He will find a way and I fear this is our last election

[albacore]

3. My money says trump will be out of there in 2 years or less. Stroke, heart attack, or dementia....maybe all three.

President Vance won't be popular enough to seize the government.

[yourout]

15. From your lips to Satan's ears.

Hopefully there is a whole amusement park of fun waiting for him.

[LymphocyteLover]

16. as much as we might wish that, I feel like the devil himself is keeping that human alive to torment us

[albacore]

33. Ain't no Devil. There IS, however, cholesterol and high blood pressure and amyloid plaques and neurofibrillary tangles.

"Dead Man Walking"

[Dan]

40. My money is on

A Covert action by unknown sources paid by unknown government account.

My only fear is that the damage might include people undeserving of such an action.

Of course since some of the MAGA say that Trump was appointed by God then it will only happens if it is God’s will or sanctioned by God.

[albacore]

44. Good possibility there, too. Could be a foreign....or domestic...actor. This is all uncharted territory. nt

[Blue Full Moon]

50. Muskrat, almost all trump picks are connected to Russia

[Dulcinea]

34. Yep.

JD Couchbanger lacks the McFelon's salesmanship & ability to sway a crowd.

[keithbvadu2]

45. Remember Vance with the 25th Amendment.

[Jit423]

56. Mother Nature and Father Time have a say in whether or not Trump will be here in 4 years.

And I would check with Grandma Destiny to be sure.

[Oopsie Daisy]

67. There's another option that I've heard people are praying for.

[AkFemDem]

6. Do you really think that really ambitious republicans

who are banking on the fact he can only serve one term, would sit quietly by and give up their own aspirations?

[peregrinus]

7. It's really sad

If we are relying on “sane” Republicans

[AkFemDem]

11. Ha! To be fair I never said they were sane ;-) Just greedy and aspirational.

[Susan Calvin]

8. That's the most optimistic thought I've heard.

Thanks. I feel somewhat better now.

[Diraven]

9. We'll have elections but like Russia

Legitimate Democratic candidates will be put in prison and Trump will just pick his own opponent who campaigns on a platform of how great Trump is, and then they'll have a pretend vote where Trump wins with 99%.

[Irish_Dem]

12. They either would not care or be powerless to do anything if they did care.

[wryter2000]

14. Instead

He'd run one of his kids. Doubt they could get elected.

[Blue_Tires]

17. If I reply, the mods will delete it...

That should give you some idea where my mind is headed.

[gab13by13]

18. Trump said you won't have to vote again.

There will be no 2028 election.

[Ms. Toad]

23. He was speaking to evangelical voters,

Who are historically unreliable voters. Listen to the entire clip, not just the one-liner people have been posting as memes.

[bucolic_frolic]

19. Democracy objective is to please the people. That's how you get re-elected.

The objective of a Trump administration is to please Trump and billionaires.

So to answer the OP, there won't be any elections in 4 years.

When will the people wake up?

[VMA131Marine]

37. No elections: no United States

If Trump is still alive in 2028 and tries to cancel the election it will lead to the breakup of the country.

[Cosmocat]

60. No it won't

nm

[onenote]

20. They would be looking in the sky for flying pigs.

The defeatism on this site has become an epidemic.

Some of us are old enough to remember what it felt like wake up the day after election day realizing we had lost by over 17 million votes and more than 500 electoral votes. Happened twice in my lifetime. I'm not downplaying how awful Trump is. He is the worst president in our history. But there are more of us now than there were back when we were getting creamed by Reagan and Nixon. I'm not prepared to surrender, but it sure seems like a lot DUers have already decided we're doomed.

[Alice B.]

68. Thank you for writing this.

I come here for news and thoughtful, realistic takes but often leave with a rising sense of panic.

People are devastated and getting it all out. I'm sure a lot of it is grief and fear and purging but it also sounds like the anticipatory obedience I've been reading about, notably from Josh Marshall in TPM.

I'd feel better if people framed their scary takes as "I am worried that ..." or "I am afraid that ..." instead of stating something will happen without laying out how it will realistically happen. For the Reichstag Fire theorists, there have got to be some points in between that and the suspension of elections.

I'm no lifeguard but the past week has felt an awful lot like a double drowning in progress.

[beaglelover]

21. He can't cancel elections.

[Blue Full Moon]

53. Who would stop him?

He promised the beautiful Christians they would not have to vote again. The Supreme Court gave him unlimited power. He wants the military to pledge fidelity to him and not the Constitution. Republicans have senate and the house, they are not going to go against him. The only way is maybe there is Republicans who are loyal to the country and would switch parties. I would not hold my breath.

[Kaleva]

63. Individual states run the elections

The federal government doesn't.

[Cirsium]

22. Yeah but..

Yeah, but that would be against the rules, wouldn't it? It mean hey it isn't like he has support from half of the population or anything. I mean if he were trying to staff the military, Homeland Security (aside - why in the hell did Democrats ever roll over for that???), ICE and the FBI, then that would be a different story.

Wake me up when he threatens to use the government to take revenge against his political opponents, or round up millions of people and put them in camps, or if he says he wants to be a dictator, or when he expresses admiration for dictators.

Yeah, sure, if any of that stuff ever happened I would be very, very alarmed.

[bronxiteforever]

24. At 83 years old, if he is not demented or seriously ill,

He will be a weak old man. 83 is really old and time is the great equalizer.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. Kooky trolling nonsense. Nt

[BlueTsunami2018]

26. The idea isn't to eliminate elections.

After all, Russia still has elections. Hungary still has elections.

The idea is to run sham elections that seem legitimate. They’ll even let some Democratic candidates win, just never enough to hold majorities or the Presidency.

And they won’t be 90% elections like Putin or Saddam Hussein had. They’ll be close but never quite enough for them to lose.

[defacto7]

35. That's the point.

Trump isn't the one to be concerned about anyway. It's who and what he represents that matters and the system they are putting into place. He's just the temporary dancing monkey.

[J_William_Ryan]

27. As likely has already been correctly noted:

The states are responsible for conducting Federal elections, they have sole authority.

[stillcool]

28. depends on where you live

some states might do it first. Seems like, basically, they already have.

[QED]

29. He won't be alive in 4 years...

His health isn't that great no matter what Dr. Ronny Feelgood says.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

30. Since all

predictions made about Trump on DU have come to be true this is possible too.

[Lovie777]

31. Then the original poster thinks it wins..

[SoCalDavidS]

32. He Doesn't Have To Cancel The Election

The majority of Americans are so STUPID that they'll continue to vote for him or anyone else with the magical (r) next to their name.

[oldmanlynn]

36. They will be fed misinformation that it's in the best interest of United States to stop doing elections

And all of those people will be snowed with that kind of misinformation and will figure that it’s gotta be right. There’s gotta be a reason to not do elections anymore.

[Meowmee]

38. It's hard to say what the reaction would be if that happens

Most people here don't vote. Hopefully some sort of major protest of some sort. By then if things are going to shit, people will be more likely to do something, but will they be able to?

[elleng]

39. NOT his decision, STATES run elections,

many state and local positions must be filled, and the HOUSE and SENATE. this is BULL SHIT!

[Dem4life1234]

41. I don't know

The French have bigger balls if that happened. That's all I will say.

They do this shit because they know the population won't push back.

[unblock]

42. Modern authoritarians don't cancel elections, they rig them.

Look for more voter suppression, harassment of opposition candidates and campaigns, even more disinformation, propaganda, violence, etc.

[NickB79]

43. It SHOULD react like the movie "Civil War" that came out this summer

Where California, Texas, Florida, and most of the nation banded together to remove a President from power for refusing to step down after his second term, setting aside political rivalry to uphold the US Constitution.

Will it? Who knows. Maybe that movie was too optimistic.

[GreenWave]

46. SCROTUS has already surrendered its power to him.

They will say it's legal.

[Scrivener7]

47. You are REALLY trying too hard.

[LPBBEAR]

48. That would start a Civil War

and rightly so.

[BannonsLiver]

51. Depends on the state of the country

If the economy is good and people can stuff their fat faces with eggs for pennies then most people are too dumb or indifferent to care, would be my bet.

He is going to relentlessly tease a second term. Everyone should be clear eyed about that. I don’t think he will cancel the election but he will toy with the idea challenging the 22nd amendment.

[misanthrope]

59. As we all found out, sometimes it doesn't matter how legitimate economic anxiety is

only how the citizens feel about it from what the propaganda tells them. Has inflation climbed in the recent years? Yes, but nowhere to the extent it would have without the Biden administration managing the "soft landing" and outpacing the rest of the world.

Citizens don't understand inflation, deflation and everything around them. Nor did they understand their anxiety as being partially driven by a wage gap that has been shrinking the middle class for decades now. That isn't the doing of Joe Biden. It's the course favored by our corporate overlords and our emboldened oligarchs.

If economic times get dire enough then all the propaganda possible can't fool citizens, but at that point the average folks are so strapped, worn out, powerless and hopeless they rarely manage to do anything about it.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

52. By saying "in 4 years," are you thinking there'll be midterms?

You're an optimist.

[Texasgal]

54. Please stop with this ridiculous nonsense.

Good GREIF!

[Kaleva]

64. We should have a separate forum for BlueAnon

[Scrivener7]

66. Right? Glad someone else is seeing it.

[struggle4progress]

55. Here's an inspiring movie scene

[Jack Valentino]

57. We will have our elections as usual.... the STATES run elections,

not the federal government....


If we have to deliver our votes with armed escorts,
that's another thing---- we'll talk about that when it becomes necessary

[Kaleva]

62. How will you react?

[Patton French]

65. All elections nationwide?

Or just the presidential election?