Anyone read the Duty to Warn Letter - to VP Harris - Re: Election 2024 by Stephen Spoonamore?

[Dennis Donovan]

pieterinmichigan
‪@pieterinmichigan.bsky.social‬
Anyone read the Duty to Warn Letter - to VP Harris - Re: Election 2024 by Stephen Spoonamore?
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November 16, 2024 at 2:12 AM

Personally, we should resurrect the "Creative Speculation" forum for this kind of research.

https://bsky.app/profile/pieterinmichigan.bsky.social/post/3lb2dnecvnk26

[BootinUp]

1. I agree. nt

[erronis]

2. To add a bit more text from Stephen Spoonamore's substack. Worth a complete read.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

Professionally I have worked as the CEO or CTO at seven high technology firms including two which specialized in hacking and counter-hacking operations. My clients have included numerous governments DoD, DHS, Dept. of State, F100 Financials and F500 Industrials.

I am a lifelong Republican who has long placed service and participatory democracy over party. In government, I have twice been invited to SoCom to give lectures on electronic warfare and techniques to find terrorist money laundering and gave a keynote speech of the National Counterintel Summit on this same topic. I served as an after-action reviewer of communications and data failures on 9/11 under the direction of Jim Woolsey and FDNY Commissioner Scopetta, and later co-wrote multiple hacking risk analysis of Smart Grid technologies for the Obama administration.

You should reverse your concession, call for both a full investigation of criminal activity and demand hand recounts in all seven swing states.

In my professional view there are multiple and extremely clear indications the Presidential vote was willfully compromised.

[BootinUp]

3. CEO's and CTO's can react emotionally and without sound judgement, lol. imho.

[Sympthsical]

4. As others have already pointed out, his claims are shaky

For example, where is that 350,000 number for North Carolina coming from? He states:

North Carolina is the most extreme. The public results indicate over 350K voters cast a ballot for Trump and no other race making up over 11% of Trump’s voters in NC drop off votes or bullet ballots.

We have access to the State Board of Elections results.

https://er.ncsbe.gov/

5,590,196 votes for governor. (https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/05/2024&county_id=0&office=COS&contest=1180)
5,697,722 votes for president. (https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/05/2024&county_id=0&office=FED&contest=1393)
5,722,556 total ballots were cast in the North Carolina election.

Just there alone you have a 1.9% difference - a far cry from the staggering 11% claim being made.

Did Spoonamore pull this number out of thin air? He makes no attempt to explain where his figures are originating. (And I suspect full transparency of facts, sources, and methods is not about to be the point here).

This is easily checked stuff.

[SunSeeker]

8. Thank you for the links. Is 1.9% in line with non-swing states? nt

[crit thinker]

10. You don't understand the 11% is the "bullet" ballot difference.

You really need to read the link to educate yourself.

A "bullet" ballot is a ballot where only the presidential race was voted on and all the rest of the races left blank.

Obviously this number is normally small and in the last NC presidential election it was an average of 0.05% and in all the swing states.

To prove the election theft was by fake electronic ballots added during the tabulation, it is a simply matter of hand counting the "bullet" ballots.

If there are not 350,000 bullet ballots in NC, then you have irrefutable proof that the tabulator insterted fake ballots.

[GP6971]

11. Welcome to DUI guess.

[onenote]

15. Here's a question for you:

If there were 350,000 ballots where only the presidential race was voted on and the rest of the races were left blank, how do you explain that the total number of ballots cast in the Governor's races was nowhere near 350,000 fewer than the total number of ballots cast in the presidential race? While the difference in the number of ballots cast in the presidential race is somewhat higher than the usual differential -- for example, in Virginia, a state the Harris won, the differential between the number of votes cast in the presidential race and the senate race was 1.34% -- North Carolina was an unusual situation because of the utter collapse of Mark Robinson's campaign, which undoubtedly led a higher than usual number of voters who would otherwise have voted for the repub candidate to leave that line blank.

Also, how does Spoonamore know how many bullet ballots there are since that information is not discernible from anything posted on the official North Carolina website? Presumably, he didn't sneak into all of the election sites where the ballots are located and review the nearly 5,525,000 paper ballots to see how many only showed a vote for the presidential race -- and how many of those votes were for Trump

[crit thinker]

18. Here is your probable cause

The orange one might have gotten away with stealing this election if he hadn't been so vain as to have the need to win the popular vote.

If he had been satisfied with just stealing the Electoral College, I would have not bothered looking for the statistical anomalies that would show probable cause of election theft nor would I have a came up with a way to prove that theft with 100% certainty nor would I be filing a lawsuit to subpoena that proof from the election officials.

I found the probable cause of election theft after only just checking the first two states the orange one won!

year = 2020
state = GA
president = 4,998,482
house = 4,946,512
difference = +51,970 = +1.04%
source= https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary

year = 2024
state = GA
president = 5,250,047
house = 4,858,236
difference = +391,811 = +7.46%
source= https://results.sos.ga.gov/results/public/Georgia/elections/2024NovGen

year = 2020
state = TX
president = 11,309,112
house = 11,092,173
difference = +216,939 = +1.92%
source= https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/general-election-results/

year = 2024
state = TX
president = 11,340,202
house = 10,633,655
difference = +706,547 = 6.23%
source= https://results.texas-election.com/races

We can prove WITH 100% certainty that there are invisible fraudulent presidential race only ballots in the hacked tabulator that the district election workers have no way of detecting since the hacked tabulators will show the fake totals when asked..

We can prove this simply by dividing the ballots into two piles, where the first pile contains the ballots where the presidential race was voted but not the House race , and where the second pile contains all the other ballots.

If that physical ballot count in that first pile is even a single vote less than the above difference, then the tabulator must have invisible fraudulent presidential race ballots.

We can either do this now and find the TRUTH before the electoral college votes because the Democratic candidates have the power to ask for this count as a post election audit tabulator accuracy check.

Or we citizens can do this later and find the TRUTH after the electoral college votes because the ballots have to be kept for 22 months and become public record where we can do the count ourselves.

Who in their right mind other than the election thieves would be against knowing now with this simple ballot count rather than later?

[greensteves]

19. Comparing with House of Representative votes is not a reliable method

The number of House seats open for election varies by year and by voting district, so it can't be used accurately to compare 2024 results to 2020 results. A vote for a statewide office such as governor or senator is more reliable.

[crit thinker]

20. Do you know what a relative percentage is?

No I did not directly compare the two years directly , I compared the the RELATIVE PERCENTAGES!

Did you not know that using relative percentages is the only mathematical valid way to compare things across different time frame,?

Besides that is not the point anyway!

The point is that when we computer programmers hack a tabulator and insert invisible presidential ballots there is no way for any election worker to detect them since the hacked tabulator will never show the real total in the database on the screen.

There is one and only one way to detect these invisible presidential ballots and that is either with a full hand ballot recount or the post election tabulator count check that I described.

Understand that if the government computer programs were as competent as I am or had my programming skills, the above count would be a REQUIRED post election audit check along with the current random district spot checks.

[marble falls]

27. That's odd. Except for a few special elections and appointments, their seats are on the ballot every two years.

[creeksneakers2]

24. I found the same thing

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/20/2287695/-Election-fraud-hoax-by-the-left?_=2024-11-20T19:59:39.000-08:00

[Progressive dog]

5. Evidence is required

Without evidence this is a conspiracy theory and fortunately it's mostly being ignored.

[crit thinker]

13. Here is what the the "probable cause" for the need for a recount:

1. google north carolina 2024 presidential election results
red & blue president votes = 5,612,128 votes
Republican Party = 2,897,782 votes
Democratic Party = 2,714,346 votes

2. google north carolina 2024 governor election results
red & blue governor votes = 5,309,235 votes
Democratic Party = 3,068,374 votes
Republican Party = 2,240,861 votes

3. calculate 2024 percent difference
red & blue president votes = 5,612,128 votes
red & blue governor votes = 5,309,235 votes
red & blue president no governor ballots = 302,893 = 5.40 %

4. is this normal compared to 2020 or is this fishy and demands recount?

5. google north carolina 2020 presidential election results
red & blue president votes = 5,443,065 votes
Republican Party = 2,758,773 votes
Democratic Party = 2,684,292 votes

6. google north carolina 2020 governor election results
red & blue governor votes = 5,421,394 votes
Democratic Party = 2,834,790 votes
Republican Party = 2,586,604 votes

7. calculate 2020 percent difference
red & blue president votes = 5,443,065 votes
red & blue governor votes = 5,421,394 votes
red & blue president no governor ballots = 21,671 = 0.40 %

8. is this normal compared to 2020 or is this fishy and demands recount?
2024 red & blue president no governor ballots = 5.40 %
2020 red & blue president no governor ballots = 0.40 %

9. Obviously all we need to do to know if the NC tabulator was hacked and added fake votes is to count the number of NC ballots that voted for president and not for governor and verify that there are 302,893 of them.

But seriouly people do you really think that over a quarter of a million loyal Democrats and Republicans would vote for president and not governor?

[EdmondDantes_]

14. why would you only count major party votes?

But also where does that 350,000 number come from? The total vote difference between the presidential and governor's races was fewer than 90,000 votes.

[Progressive dog]

16. That is meaningless

The number of votes and party voted for vary from election to election. Why bother with elections unless they are the same as past elections?
That is not evidence.

[greensteves]

22. Limiting analysis to Republican & Democratic votes is inaccurate

Your analysis assumes that anyone who voted for a Republican or Democratic presidential candidate would necessarily vote for a Republican or Democratic governor, or for no one for governor. However, especially with the discredited Mark Robinson running as the Republican candidate for governor, it is quite possible that Republican voters voted for Libertarian or other candidates. When you tally total votes for president vs total votes for governor, the differences are much smaller, around 107,600 or 1.9 percent.

[creeksneakers2]

25. I totaled all the votes for all the candidates

The difference is only 90,700. Not the 350,000 Spoonamore claims. Other problems with it too:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/20/2287695/-Election-fraud-hoax-by-the-left?_=2024-11-20T19:59:39.000-08:00

[Tyranee098]

6. Duty to warn letter

All votes should have been counted before declaring his win, and the accuracy of the votes needs to be investigated for possible rigging. Evidence and further investigation must be undertaken.

[Mike 03]

7. I did read it and printed out some copies for

family to read. My knowledge of cybersecurity is not good enough that I feel competent to assess these claims. But given the credentials of the source, I am interested in the critiques that will come from other people qualified to judge them.

This seems far more fertile ground than any of the conjecture I've seen prior.

[B.See]

9. My take on it is this:

In spite of all studies indicating relatively VERY little voting fraud, and VERY few instances of non-citizen voting, Trump and his MAGA cohorts DENIED his LOSS in the 2020 election.

Not only denied it. But conspired to overthrow the results with calls to "find" votes, with bogus lawsuits (like one filed by Ken Paxton against voting results of four other states),

with a fake elector scheme complete with fraudulent documents, with the Trump incited Capitol riot, an attempt to usurp the peaceful transfer of power, and with the 147 Republicans who, after all the above, voted against certifying PRESIDENT Biden's win.

And for four years thereafter, there was continuous whining on the part of Trump and his disciples. The audits, the fraudits (Cyber Ninjas my a---) the denials, the threats of violence,

the rigging of state laws that would have allowed the refusals of certifications, the installment of election deniers, and right winged lackeys who Trump had called by name,

the massive voter purges (1 million in Texas alone), the laws passed allowing any individual to challenge tens of thousands of voters' eligibility on the basis of little or NOTHING at all,

and all the while STILL refusing to accept Biden's win OR the results of the 2024 election should Trump had lost. Instead, they threatened war.

Add to all of that, the voting irregularities in PA on election night, the burned ballot boxes in minority and democratic voting districts, the bomb threats phoned in to various (democratic) districts, and more...

after all of which there were no MAGA questions or challenges to the "fairness" of it. Why? Because they had won.

So, while I personally haven't bought into any conspiracy theories (except the right wing conspiracy to CULL THE VOTE, which is no theory, but FACT),

I think, considering all the above, these election election results deserve at LEAST an investigation.

[crit thinker]

12. The author's hypothesis of election theft can be easily proven.

A "bullet" ballot is one where only the presidential election is voted on and all the rest all left blank.

1. For each swing state get the total from the tabulator of "bullet" ballots which in NC is 350,000.

2. For each swing state hand count the number of paper "bullet" ballots which in NC is X.

3. If the hand count "bullet" ballot numbers are less which in NC is X < 350,000, then tabulator inserted fake "bullet" ballots.

5. The author's hypothesis becomes a fully proven theory and is now irrefutable 100% undeniable fact.

I for the life of me can't understand why anyone would be against knowing the TRUTH instead of speculating and the need to do this NOW before the electoral college meets.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

21. There aren't 350,000

bullet ballots in NC though.

[creeksneakers2]

26. Spoonamore made that up

Nobody counts "bullet ballots." They only count how many total each candidate gets. To count them on paper ballots somebody, for no known reason, would have to hand count each paper ballot without using the machine. This would have had to have happened in every precinct. And voting machines, unless they produce a paper record, don't even give individual votes. They just have totals when you open up the backs after closing. There are machines that make paper records but I doubt anybody looks at them except when there is a doubt about the machine count.

Somehow, Spoonamore claims to have complete counts of these "bullet ballots'" for all 50 states. Impossible!

[mimitabby]

17. I don't understand why you aren't all calling your legislators about this!

I am shaking. These bastards have stolen an election.
I’m writing to everyone I can think of.
I’m not the sort of person who jumps on conspiracy theories.
This guy is succinct and clear.

[tritsofme]

23. He has been throughly discredited by several folks here, armed with only simple math. The spoon guy is full of it.