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More evidence of a stolen election (Original Post) Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 OP
This is so interesting phylny Nov 2024 #1
Given that the results are in fact auditable, it's hard to take the article seriously EdmondDantes_ Nov 2024 #2
Agreed VicNEO Nov 2024 #10
Well something has always seemed fishy to me also mvd Nov 2024 #3
Harris had republicans voting for her had more enthusiasm among Tribetime Nov 2024 #4
Since Biden is in office, I have called some of my representatives.... Pauldg47 Nov 2024 #12
Since Biden is in office, I have called some of my representatives.... Pauldg47 Nov 2024 #13
It was not the first after Roe was gutted Zeitghost Nov 2024 #20
... ColinC Nov 2024 #5
Jonathan Simon's 11/16/24 article on WhoWhatWhy ultralite001 Nov 2024 #6
Trying a little too hard, aren't you? johnp3907 Nov 2024 #7
Thank you. pandr32 Nov 2024 #8
Did anyone check with Mike Lindell before using his arguments? Bleacher Creature Nov 2024 #9
Yup .... VicNEO Nov 2024 #11
Thank you, very interesting wendyb-NC Nov 2024 #14
Difference b/w 2020 and 2024 vote ... krkaufman Nov 2024 #15
evidence? krawhitham Nov 2024 #16
Still not seeing any evidence in that article either Amishman Nov 2024 #17
Jonathan Simon wrote about rigging in 2016 and 2020 Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #18
Background to current events by S. Spoonamore Loupe Garoue Nov 2024 #19

phylny

(8,818 posts)
1. This is so interesting
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 10:22 PM
Nov 2024

Yes, I do think the votes were manipulated and the election was stolen.

EdmondDantes_

(1,797 posts)
2. Given that the results are in fact auditable, it's hard to take the article seriously
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 10:30 PM
Nov 2024

Also claiming that there were hidden Republicans when the poll averages were very accurate is a tough sell.

Nothing in there is evidence. It's poorly sourced opinion at best.

mvd

(65,912 posts)
3. Well something has always seemed fishy to me also
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 10:46 PM
Nov 2024

Lots of absent Democrats. Party splitting to a high degree. Voter suppression. Unfortunately nothing can be proven and Democrats in power aren’t interested. But questions still need to be asked.

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
4. Harris had republicans voting for her had more enthusiasm among
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:03 PM
Nov 2024

Her voters
Drew 75 000 crowds while drump couldn't fill a phone booth. With many leaving early.
Had a superior ground game
First Election since Roe with pissed off women
Drump insulted almost everyone in final weeks
Drump got more votes than 2020 with 34 felonies and tried to Overthrow Election while Harris got way less


It just doesn't pass the smell test

Pauldg47

(644 posts)
12. Since Biden is in office, I have called some of my representatives....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:18 AM
Nov 2024

In Michigan and broaght to their attention That Biden is still our president. Since Trump has stated he is going to replace all our generals and military with his Nazi style generals; that means war. We should take them out right now before the end of Joe Biden’s administration.

Pauldg47

(644 posts)
13. Since Biden is in office, I have called some of my representatives....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:19 AM
Nov 2024

In Michigan and broaght to their attention That Biden is still our president. Since Trump has stated he is going to replace all our generals and military with his Nazi style generals; that means war. We should take them out right now before the end of Joe Biden’s administration.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
20. It was not the first after Roe was gutted
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nov 2024

The 2022 Mid Terms were right after that and Republicans won nationwide by 3%, so similar to the 2024 margin.

ultralite001

(2,551 posts)
6. Jonathan Simon's 11/16/24 article on WhoWhatWhy
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:10 PM
Nov 2024

gave a bit of comfort after a lengthy read... Simon writes:

"Vice President Harris, if you are by some chance listening, I hope you understand that committing to the peaceful transfer of power is not incompatible with using whatever legal means are provided to ensure that the election giving rise to that transfer was legitimate."


https://whowhatwhy.org/elections/2024-rigged-election-or-national-psychosis/]

wendyb-NC

(4,691 posts)
14. Thank you, very interesting
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:52 AM
Nov 2024

Ever since the winner was announced, I have had the sense that something didn't add up. It was as if I was told, don't believe your eyes and ears, along with an uncanny sense of things, that have worked a certain way, were now out of sync as they concluded the process, and the results felt way off.

I hope a recount is done, what is there to loose.

krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
15. Difference b/w 2020 and 2024 vote ...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:32 AM
Nov 2024

… could just be that more low propensity, low motivation voters cast ballots in 2020 due to pandemic-era mail-in voting expansion. Combined with Trump being the miserably failing incumbent in 2020 and Democrats being in power when prices spiked post-COVID (without any direct action, hearings, commissions, etc. addressing the profiteering), it’s reasonable to think that the 2024 Dem candidate would fall short of the 2020 total.

I’d still prefer some hand recounts to validate the electronic systems, and am a little amazed that random hand recounts aren’t part of the system.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
17. Still not seeing any evidence in that article either
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:54 AM
Nov 2024

And some of the core arguments are weak, especially the claim that votes are being flipped by code in the voting machines.

The problem with this is we see the same overall trend across all voting methods, including those that don't use an electronic machine to cast the vote. If votes were being flipped in the machine, we would see choppier data based on method of voting / voting equipment used.

Article posted just just another steam of hypotheticals and angst about the polls being wrong.

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