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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,853 posts)
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I suggest he stand up and fight! FarPoint Nov 2024 #1
"it's a club and you ain't in it" Klarkashton Nov 2024 #2
I choose to interpret it as listening to what rfk jr has to say before he says "hell no" mucifer Nov 2024 #3
We have already heard enough of RFKjr running his mouth at length to say "hell no." Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #24
As the worm spreads. Autumn Nov 2024 #4
From Politico: Dennis Donovan Nov 2024 #5
Breaks my heart. I was hoping my Governor would be the next Democratic President. Autumn Nov 2024 #6
Booker's not our Governor Mossfern Nov 2024 #10
I replied to a post from Political. I guess you missed that. Autumn Nov 2024 #12
It wasn't a gotcha Mossfern Nov 2024 #35
Perhaps you missed the fact that the poster was referring to CO Gov. Polis? niyad Nov 2024 #33
I have been informed about that, thank you Mossfern Nov 2024 #34
I was sickened when I saw Gov. Polis' comments, and so was every Dem I niyad Nov 2024 #32
lmaooooo WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #7
W.T.F? spanone Nov 2024 #8
FFS! edhopper Nov 2024 #9
NO Rebl2 Nov 2024 #11
Egads, he rehearsing for Morning Joe? Emile Nov 2024 #13
Normalizing lunacy. travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #14
I hate hope all their children get a bad case of measles and some get polio, sorry Walleye Nov 2024 #15
Alrighty then Solly Mack Nov 2024 #16
Grow a fucking spine Sanity Claws Nov 2024 #17
Perhaps it's best to hold hearings than endure a recess appointment EYESORE 9001 Nov 2024 #18
The article I read has That Cory Booker has been a supporter for healthy food , not that he is voting to confirm RFK jr MacKasey Nov 2024 #19
Where does he say that?? Disaffected Nov 2024 #20
See Post Five. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2024 #21
But that post quote doesn't say anything about Booker Disaffected Nov 2024 #29
And once again gentlemanly politics kicks us in the nuts. nt Hotler Nov 2024 #22
Hey. don't forget to send "fighter" Cory a contribution of $50 for 2026 though!! awesomerwb1 Nov 2024 #23
Get ready for the return of Quisling Democrats alarimer Nov 2024 #25
Seems to me Macrophylla Nov 2024 #26
Hanging by petards I guess. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #27
Some of what polis said echoes some of MontanaFarmer Nov 2024 #28
Call his office/email him and ask WHY? vapor2 Nov 2024 #30
Dear lord claudette Nov 2024 #31
Where is the source that he is open to confirming RFK jr? I'm not seeing it anywhere. chowder66 Nov 2024 #36

FarPoint

(14,766 posts)
1. I suggest he stand up and fight!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:18 AM
Nov 2024

What will his voters say when they learn he would not fight for them?

Klarkashton

(5,295 posts)
2. "it's a club and you ain't in it"
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:19 AM
Nov 2024

Face it we are just pawns in their game. Pay your taxes, consume and shut up about it.

mucifer

(25,667 posts)
3. I choose to interpret it as listening to what rfk jr has to say before he says "hell no"
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:20 AM
Nov 2024

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
24. We have already heard enough of RFKjr running his mouth at length to say "hell no."
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:58 PM
Nov 2024

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
4. As the worm spreads.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:22 AM
Nov 2024

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
5. From Politico:
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:25 AM
Nov 2024
Politico - RFK Jr.’s surprising support

By NATALIE FERTIG | 11/19/2024 07:04 PM EST

RAW MILK REVOLT — When Colorado Gov. Jared Polis recently posted on X in support of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s opposition to vaccine mandates and willingness to “take on big pharma and corporate ag,” the backlash was swift. Even Hawaii Gov. Josh Green, a physician and fellow Democrat, said he was “disappointed” in Polis. An hour later, Polis clarified his first statement — but did not back down.

“If as a country we follow the science we would also be far more concerned about the impact of pesticides on public health, ag policy on nutrition, and the lack of access to prescription drugs due to drug high prices,” Polis wrote on November 14. “I am for a major shake-up in institutions like the [Food and Drug Administration] that have been barriers to lowering drug costs and promoting healthy food choices.”

Turns out, Polis isn’t the only politician who shares some health policy views with RFK: So does Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who posted a video about reforming the food system on Monday. What was poised to be a Polis pile-on became a social media lovefest — Kennedy reposted Booker’s video and Polis retweeted Kennedy.

In supporting these policies, Polis and Booker helped mainstream Kennedy, who’s been criticized for promoting disinformation about vaccines. But they’ve also harkened back a Democratic Party of old which challenged corporate agriculture and pharmaceutical companies, questioned government mandates, popularized organic foods and encouraged exploring medical marijuana and acupuncture. It’s a party that shows up less and less these days.

“Eastern liberals have backed themselves into a position of defending institutions that they would have once seen as dubious, like [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] or the FDA,” said Joe Lowndes, a lecturer of political science at Hunter College with a focus on right-wing politics and populism. “Many people who kind of come more directly from more counter-cultural-friendly environments see that differently, and saw RFK differently.”

/snip

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
6. Breaks my heart. I was hoping my Governor would be the next Democratic President.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:28 AM
Nov 2024

Mossfern

(4,716 posts)
10. Booker's not our Governor
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:33 AM
Nov 2024

Murphy is, and I don't think he's planning on running.
Booker is our US Senator.

I don't see the connection.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
12. I replied to a post from Political. I guess you missed that.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry to ruin your little gotcha.

Mossfern

(4,716 posts)
35. It wasn't a gotcha
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:22 PM
Nov 2024

I was honestly confused.
I've been told to apologize, so... sorry.

Why would I be trying to get one up on you regarding this?
I'm still confused.

The OP was about Booker - I mistakenly thought that's who you were talking about.

niyad

(132,446 posts)
33. Perhaps you missed the fact that the poster was referring to CO Gov. Polis?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:17 PM
Nov 2024

You owe that poster an apology.

Mossfern

(4,716 posts)
34. I have been informed about that, thank you
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:19 PM
Nov 2024

I didn't insult the poster, and considering that I'm a grown woman, I don't appreciate being told to "say sorry."

niyad

(132,446 posts)
32. I was sickened when I saw Gov. Polis' comments, and so was every Dem I
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:15 PM
Nov 2024

know in our state. I know mine was not the only angry phone call.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,956 posts)
7. lmaooooo
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:29 AM
Nov 2024

spanone

(141,628 posts)
8. W.T.F?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:29 AM
Nov 2024

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
9. FFS!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:29 AM
Nov 2024

The Democrats who actually can do something (as opposed to you or me) lying down and playing dead will fuck us all the more.

Rebl2

(17,743 posts)
11. NO
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 2024

Just NO!

Emile

(42,293 posts)
13. Egads, he rehearsing for Morning Joe?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:36 AM
Nov 2024

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
14. Normalizing lunacy.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:40 AM
Nov 2024

y

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
15. I hate hope all their children get a bad case of measles and some get polio, sorry
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:00 PM
Nov 2024

Vaccines are not a “personal choice“ they are a public health measure. Don’t know why people don’t understand contagion and infectiousness. It’s been around for centuries.

Solly Mack

(96,943 posts)
16. Alrighty then
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 2024

Sanity Claws

(22,413 posts)
17. Grow a fucking spine
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:05 PM
Nov 2024

I am so sick of this. Makes me wonder about him.

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
18. Perhaps it's best to hold hearings than endure a recess appointment
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:07 PM
Nov 2024

where congressional and corporate media cameras will capture the madness of brain worm guy.

MacKasey

(1,519 posts)
19. The article I read has That Cory Booker has been a supporter for healthy food , not that he is voting to confirm RFK jr
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:15 PM
Nov 2024

Disaffected

(6,408 posts)
20. Where does he say that??
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:24 PM
Nov 2024

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,853 posts)
21. See Post Five.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:28 PM
Nov 2024

Disaffected

(6,408 posts)
29. But that post quote doesn't say anything about Booker
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 2024

being "open to confirming Oz". It only sez Booker is in agreement with some of Kennedy's health views, mainly in respect to food policy (which IMO is quite a reasonable position). I'm thinking Booker knows Kennedy is a quack in other aspects of health care, such as immunization, and would not support him, I hope, for that and other similar reasons.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
22. And once again gentlemanly politics kicks us in the nuts. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:37 PM
Nov 2024

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
23. Hey. don't forget to send "fighter" Cory a contribution of $50 for 2026 though!!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 2024
 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
25. Get ready for the return of Quisling Democrats
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:04 PM
Nov 2024

Does he not understand that he should vote against every single fucking Trump appointee? Because this is WAR. Fuck bipartisanship.

Macrophylla

(201 posts)
26. Seems to me
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:08 PM
Nov 2024

He threw opposition onto Republicans laps thus all responsibilities to opposition at their feet.
But hey...go ahead and light your hair on fire it seems the popular past time here.

Maru Kitteh

(31,765 posts)
27. Hanging by petards I guess. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:09 PM
Nov 2024

MontanaFarmer

(761 posts)
28. Some of what polis said echoes some of
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 2024

what senator Booker has said in the past, even when he ran for president, regarding the ag oligopoly and its impact on our health. RFK isn't wrong about that. The problem is, you can't have him ala carte. The vaccine BS will be why booker votes against him in the end but a public confirmation hearing wherein JBS, Sangeeta, bayer, conagra and the like are exposed to the public a little more is not a bad idea. The hearing is going to happen regardless so let's use it as an opportunity.

vapor2

(4,513 posts)
30. Call his office/email him and ask WHY?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:14 PM
Nov 2024

I find this quite concerning.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
31. Dear lord
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:14 PM
Nov 2024

will the Democrats EVER learn how to fight? I'm so disheartened about that.

chowder66

(12,246 posts)
36. Where is the source that he is open to confirming RFK jr? I'm not seeing it anywhere.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:10 PM
Nov 2024

There is an article linked in the thread and it says nothing about Booker being open to confirmation. That article links to this article;

snip.....

"Last week, Booker, who tries to stay healthy by avoiding processed sugar and animal products, acknowledged that he and Kennedy have had similar ideas on the connection between food and health — but said he didn’t trust the coming Trump administration.

“I feel like he’s lifted paragraphs from my speech talking about this crisis,” Booker said of Kennedy. “Color me skeptical about a president that did a lot of things in his last administration to undermine people's access to healthy, quality food, tried to lower nutrition standards and do the kind of things that [are] not making America healthy.”"

https://archive.ph/rkXjC#selection-1243.0-1247.159

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