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jmowreader

(51,557 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:39 PM Nov 21

It appears Matt Gaetz was a stalking horse

Trump probably wanted Florida AG Pam Bondi from the beginning - she's cute, she adores President-for-Life Elect Trump, and she's one of the worst fascists Trump has put forward to date. Because of how far out of whack her leanings are he knew she wouldn't get in without help...so, throw an utter sex fiend's name into the hat then when he gets chased out of consideration bring in Bondi, whose sole desirable attribute seems to be "as far as we know, she hasn't committed any heinous sex crimes yet."

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It appears Matt Gaetz was a stalking horse (Original Post) jmowreader Nov 21 OP
I'll bet she attends all the same sex parties as Gaetz peregrinus Nov 21 #1
So I am guessing Traildogbob Nov 21 #2
Maybe keeping her in line is why she's been named to a DOGE subcommittee. summer_in_TX Nov 21 #21
Could be, but I don't think the rapist is that smart. Joinfortmill Nov 21 #3
Someone is helping him. He is not capable of doing much work. Irish_Dem Nov 21 #11
traitortrump is a puppet with many masters. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 21 #30
I agree, but I think it goes beyond AG. Gaetz was so horrible, all the other "nominees" look better in comparison. rsdsharp Nov 21 #4
I agree, it is about all of them sliding in because they look better than Gaetz. Irish_Dem Nov 21 #12
I don't think it was necessary or worth it ThoughtCriminal Nov 21 #5
it's not as if she's inevitable bigtree Nov 21 #6
She will get edhopper Nov 21 #8
I read people saying that about Gaetz bigtree Nov 21 #17
I can't imagine anyone saying that about Gaetz FBaggins Nov 22 #55
Another way to consider... jmowreader Nov 21 #9
He was inner circle. underpants Nov 21 #7
inner whore Skittles Nov 21 #14
Post removed Post removed Nov 21 #28
Skittles is not a male, little buddy. sheshe2 Nov 21 #31
WTF is wrong with you? ShazzieB Nov 21 #32
Skittles is going to whoop your ass. greatauntoftriplets Nov 21 #33
Bahahahaha sheshe2 Nov 21 #34
You know she would! greatauntoftriplets Nov 21 #35
I do!🤣 sheshe2 Nov 21 #37
That troll would have deserved it, too! ShazzieB Nov 21 #41
Indeed it was. greatauntoftriplets Nov 22 #45
AW MAN WHAT DID I MISS Skittles Nov 22 #42
Library girl. greatauntoftriplets Nov 22 #43
drawing a blank Skittles Nov 22 #44
That was one of their recent usernames. greatauntoftriplets Nov 22 #47
AH OK YES I know now Skittles Nov 22 #48
I figured that you would. greatauntoftriplets Nov 22 #49
There is a reason H2O Man Nov 22 #50
Can't blame him. greatauntoftriplets Nov 22 #51
NOPE Skittles Nov 21 #10
Sorry, but that makes no sense. onenote Nov 21 #13
Not so sure jmowreader Nov 21 #15
Which repubs would give a rat's ass about those things? onenote Nov 21 #16
She took a $25K campaign donation from a Trump entity while she was investigating Trump university. pnwmom Nov 21 #18
Do you honestly think the repub senate gives a rat's ass? onenote Nov 21 #22
Where did I say anything now is normal? pnwmom Nov 21 #23
Was also a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia at the exact same time she was his lawyer. Karasu Nov 21 #29
She has her own scandal to overcome. sheshe2 Nov 21 #38
Do you think the Senate repubs are going to care? onenote Nov 21 #39
Whatever. sheshe2 Nov 21 #40
Whittling his way to Paxton n/t Cheezoholic Nov 21 #19
He's mocking the functionality of our government. rubbersole Nov 21 #20
Yes Akakoji Nov 21 #24
She's yet another foreign asset. Karasu Nov 21 #25
I Have to Wonder DET Nov 21 #26
No. He would have been fine with Gaetz. He had dirt on him and he was also chosen because of incompetence, loyalty. Freethinker65 Nov 21 #27
Good grief Prairie Gates Nov 21 #36
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 22 #46
You're giving the mentally declining and weaving criminal too much credit. brush Nov 22 #52
That's what I thought, too DFW Nov 22 #53
I think there was a dual purpose here. Mike Niendorff Nov 22 #54
Besides being dumb as a box of hammers, what else is in Bondi's closet? Emile Nov 22 #56
This reminds me boonecreek Nov 22 #57
I think a lot of us thought that, yes. yardwork Nov 22 #58
Bondi is actually more dangerous then Gaetz dalton99a Nov 22 #59

Traildogbob

(10,066 posts)
2. So I am guessing
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:47 PM
Nov 21

Now, what was it MTG said, let’s bring the dance into the light, and expose all the sex freaks if Gaetz goes down? Gonna be like the Soul Train dance line as the scum get exposed in retribution for Mattress Matt being taken out?

summer_in_TX

(3,259 posts)
21. Maybe keeping her in line is why she's been named to a DOGE subcommittee.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:50 PM
Nov 21

Musk, Ramaswamy, and Greene. A toxic stew.

rsdsharp

(10,241 posts)
4. I agree, but I think it goes beyond AG. Gaetz was so horrible, all the other "nominees" look better in comparison.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 21

The worst one didn’t make it through (and wasn’t intended to), so the rest will likely pass. Which means if Gabbard is DNI, Putin will be on the PDB distribution list.

Irish_Dem

(58,788 posts)
12. I agree, it is about all of them sliding in because they look better than Gaetz.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:25 PM
Nov 21

Even some of them are more dangerous than Gaetz.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,339 posts)
5. I don't think it was necessary or worth it
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:54 PM
Nov 21

He could have gotten pretty much ANYONE through a GOP controlled Senate except Gaetz.

He spent a bucket load of political capital on nominating Gaetz. All of his appointments are horrible, but this one just pissed off even his allies there who were forced to go on record pretending that this was acceptable and normal. I think it also may have killed his plan to get them to go along with the recess appointment scheme.

bigtree

(90,258 posts)
6. it's not as if she's inevitable
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:54 PM
Nov 21

...I don't understand this thinking that one corrupt nominee is supposed to be covering for the next one he appoints.

We can all see them. Bondi is mixed up with the Trump Foundation, and it's entirely probable she won't stand up to scrutiny, either.

bigtree

(90,258 posts)
17. I read people saying that about Gaetz
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:01 PM
Nov 21

...jfc, most of us aren't just bystanders waiting for the end of the world.

Never will be.

Any Democrat claiming the inevitability of this needs to be doing something to try and prevent it, instead of just making as if republican senators and their criming cohorts are invincible.

FBaggins

(27,764 posts)
55. I can't imagine anyone saying that about Gaetz
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:11 AM
Nov 22

Other than just the blanket assumption that republicans will reflexively support Trump - but there were two instant “no” vote republicans as soon as he was named and a dozen or more Republican “huh???!” responses.

Bondi is far more acceptable to these potential crossover votes that we absolutely need in order to defeat a nominee. Also - we have limited ammunition in this battle and much easier targets.


Yes - I think we’re being played and she was the pick all along.

jmowreader

(51,557 posts)
9. Another way to consider...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:03 PM
Nov 21

Gaetz is Corrupt x 1.
Bondi is Corrupt x 2. If they kick her back, he'll be advancing more and more corrupt people until Trump advances Bob Odenkirk, who has no actual legal experience to speak of but played a corrupt lawyer on TV. And then if THAT doesn't work most of Fred Phelps' children are licensed attorneys, and he'll just get one of them.

If the Senate signs off on Bondi, though, it saves him the trouble of combing Bureau of Prisons records for incarcerated lawyers.

Response to Skittles (Reply #14)

ShazzieB

(18,847 posts)
41. That troll would have deserved it, too!
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:58 PM
Nov 21

I'm SO glad that post is gone. (I actually came back here just to check, lol!)

I can't help wondering if that was one of our "regulars" who repeatedly sign up, just to post something obnoxious and immediately get banned. If so, I'm sure MIRT will deal with them appropriately. 😁

greatauntoftriplets

(176,940 posts)
47. That was one of their recent usernames.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:14 AM
Nov 22

Joins regularly, insults members and posts conspiracy theories, anti-vax, anti-Dem. Uses lots of smileys.

onenote

(44,772 posts)
13. Sorry, but that makes no sense.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:36 PM
Nov 21

First, having your first big nomination blow up isn't a good look for Trump.
Second, Bondi wouldn't have had any problem being confirmed if she had been put forward from the start.

jmowreader

(51,557 posts)
15. Not so sure
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:46 PM
Nov 21

Bondi has a Trump Foundation-related scandal in her past, where TSF's fake charity donated money to her campaigns. She also has at least vestigial ties to Scientology; still-wealthy Scientologists have made large donations to her campaigns and she's spoken at their events. Dig a little and you'll find enough dirt on her to plant wheat in.

pnwmom

(109,605 posts)
18. She took a $25K campaign donation from a Trump entity while she was investigating Trump university.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 21

In a normal confirmation process that would be investigated as a likely bribe.

onenote

(44,772 posts)
22. Do you honestly think the repub senate gives a rat's ass?
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:51 PM
Nov 21

What do you think is "normal" about what is going on?

Karasu

(285 posts)
29. Was also a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia at the exact same time she was his lawyer.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:15 PM
Nov 21

Nothing weird about that.

sheshe2

(87,859 posts)
38. She has her own scandal to overcome.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:42 PM
Nov 21

He wrote her a check for 25K to make his troubles go away.

She nixed the Trump University fraud case
In 2016, news emerged that Trump paid a $2,500 fine because his foundation improperly donated $25,000 to Bondi’s political election committee in 2013 before her office opted not to pursue a fraud investigation into Trump University. Trump eventually paid $25 million to settle fraud complaints against the now-defunct university.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/21/5-things-pam-bondi-00191199

onenote

(44,772 posts)
39. Do you think the Senate repubs are going to care?
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:51 PM
Nov 21

I don't think a single Repub senator opposes her confirmation.

Karasu

(285 posts)
25. She's yet another foreign asset.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:58 PM
Nov 21

Because apparently this kakistocracy still doesn't have enough of those.

DET

(1,714 posts)
26. I Have to Wonder
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:03 PM
Nov 21

If Gaetz actually thought he could get in. When will these people learn that everything Trump touches dies.

Freethinker65

(11,150 posts)
27. No. He would have been fine with Gaetz. He had dirt on him and he was also chosen because of incompetence, loyalty.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:08 PM
Nov 21

Bondi is loyal and qualified, compromised but less so. More importantly, she will always know she came in second to an unqualified white male sex offender.

H2O Man

(75,679 posts)
46. Recommended.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:14 AM
Nov 22

Possibly, but there are reports that the felon was angry when republicans told him that they wouldn't support Gaetz.

I will note that Bondi is far more intelligent and disciplined than Gaetz, hence more dangerous.

brush

(57,933 posts)
52. You're giving the mentally declining and weaving criminal too much credit.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:03 AM
Nov 22

Those in his cabal like Stevem Miller may have recommended Bondi after Gaetz withdrew. But I think crazy trump on his best day never had any second-level thinking like that.

He really wanted fellow pedophile Gaetz as AG.

DFW

(56,734 posts)
53. That's what I thought, too
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:25 AM
Nov 22

Even Trump has all but admitted that he didn’t think he could get away with it.

Not that I think any of these nominees are Trump’s sole personal doing. Bannon, Miller, the usual Trump manipulators who put all the ideas and names in his mouth, these are the ones who are the origins of the nominees. Trump probably barely knew the difference between Matt Gaetz and Bill Gates, and would have been happy naming either one.

Mike Niendorff

(3,558 posts)
54. I think there was a dual purpose here.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:39 AM
Nov 22

First, they're still gunning for a "recess appointment" binge -- the Gaetz nomination gave them someone to sacrifice in pursuit of that. A little "give" to justify the "take". He was never intended to make it through, he was just a tool to be used in the broader project.

Second, he had become a liability, and they wanted him gone -- they needed him out of the House and they needed the House investigation buried. By convincing him to resign for a "promotion" (that he'd never get), they had a tool to both kill the ethics report and to eliminate him as a potential problem-child going forward.


MDN

boonecreek

(74 posts)
57. This reminds me
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 22

Of Dumbya nominating Harriet Miers to the SC. When she proved to be hopelessly incompetent he withdrew her stuck us with IIRC Alito. And if TSF thought Gaetz could be confirmed, he's even dumber than I thought.

dalton99a

(84,650 posts)
59. Bondi is actually more dangerous then Gaetz
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:09 PM
Nov 22

Gaetz is basically a sex fiend and an attention whore

Bondi is smart, focused, and insidious

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