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Since the day after the election, viewership of MSNBC has nosedived 38%, CNN viewership has plummeted 27%, while the Fox News audience has skyrocketed 41%.
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BlueTsunami2018
(4,990 posts)Fox, Newsmax and the like are going to be the norm for every newscast.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)Fox going up 41 percent when it was in first place is horrible. We need a channel that gives the other side of reality. I know some are upset with morning Joe and thats fine. But punishing the entire channel doesnt appear to be helpful.
tanyev
(49,297 posts)If theres a network that reports on him without showing video or pictures of him or playing audio of him speaking, Id love to know.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)I cant stand seeing him either. It was so strange to watch the media and social media follow his every move the last four years and he wasnt even president. Its just crazy!
this is not good at all. We were full of so much shock, and rage that we pulled the plug on some sort of sanity and now we will have nothing, unless we tune in again, but the handwriting is in the wall. That is why we have independent sites such as Mary Trump Media, Free Speech TV, Meidas Touch, Robert Reich to support by clicking on the like button.
FOX is celebrating their propaganda accomplishment, and pumping more lies into their viewers.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)Did democracy depend on my watching Joe Scarborough, a former Republican representative to Congress who has proven, over and over, to be an un-thoughtful, un-serious person who craves the attention of those in power?
TV News is dying. Newspapers are dying. Young people don't watch TV or read newspapers. They stream entertainment on their phones and laptops. They use TV to watch sports.
Too many voters ignored the obvious problems with Trump and voted for him anyway.
J_William_Ryan
(3,496 posts)Had Trump lost Fox viewership would still have increased as Trump Cult members fed on grievance and lies, as they did in 2020.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,916 posts)Beachnutt
(8,910 posts)are sick and tired of the both siderisms and the go along interviews when we know the interviewee is blantantly lying.
We are tired of being played for ratings so we just stop watching the same old crap as we feel helpless in changing things.
I have turned off "news* completely.
If a show comes along that calls a person a liar for lying I may tune in.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)...during Morning Joe, Nicolle, Jen, Rachel, Chris, Joy, Alex, Lawrence and Stephanie.
After Morning Joe's confession on Monday, I've been watching historical documentaries on YouTube exclusively.
I haven't been taking the Vice President's loss well at all.
Dulcinea
(10,094 posts)People are cutting the cord more & more. Most people only watch cable news if something big is happening. Young people don't watch TV much at all. Fox's audience is mostly angry old white people. Where are the viewers of the future?
Johnny2X2X
(24,210 posts)I haven't watched a minute of either since the election and don't intend to. They both siderismed the country into a dark hole and they are no longer useful.
Our side needs new media that is more organic and not corporate controlled. The democracy fell at the hands of a multi decade ong psyop and the "mainstream" media was part of the problem. So people no longer trust MSNBC or CNN.
CrispyQ
(40,970 posts)Going by visuals alone, Trump got a ton more coverage. I just want him to croak so the media can have their two week orgasm & then we never have to see his ugly mug again.
Johnny2X2X
(24,210 posts)They have loved him for 10 years, he's their new,. "If it bleeds, it leads."
CNN took a Right turn.
But I think I realized we were in big trouble when it came out in court that Maggie Haberman and Katy Tur were both basically employees of the trump campaign and nothing came of it. This was MSNBC and the NY Times, knowingly printing and putting on the air members of the Trump campaign and passing them off like they were regular employees. It wasn't that long ago that members of the media had to resign if they were found to be involved in a political campaign in any way. When it was barely a blip story, I posted here on DU that we might already be totally screwed and there's nothing that will change it. Rightwing Oligarchs took over the media top to bottom. They obviously had morer than just Tur on their payroll at MSNBC, but also likely some executives and news directors.
Biden did too much for working people for the ruling class to not react, Trump is their reaction, they installed him by any means necesssary. They couldn't have 4 more years of Biden policies or people would have seen more of how these polciies are great for the country.
DeepWinter
(931 posts)has never done well. I don't know why. Remember Air America? I really liked it. Nobody tuned in. Not even liberals.
tanyev
(49,297 posts)The only time I listen to the radio is when Im driving, and I really dont like listening to someone talking while Im driving. Especially about things that make me angry. Plus, Ed Schultz was usually on at the time I was listening and I couldnt get past how much his voice and speech patterns reminded me of Rush Limbaugh.
pinkstarburst
(2,020 posts)That's one reason I've stopped going there. Just one more subscription service to pay for. There is now only one site (a local site in Texas that definitely is not giving unbiased news) where I can get the news without it being behind a paywall. I suspect this is one reason many are getting their news from Facebook and other social media.
Happy Hoosier
(9,535 posts)We're mourning. We're dealing with anxiety and fear.
We'll be back, but honestly, I need some time away from assholes telling me how this bullshit is all Democrats fault.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)Its not the end of progressive media.
flamingdem
(40,898 posts)Instead of 30 million a year she'll get 25 million. Due to the financial situation at MSNBC.
CrispyQ
(40,970 posts)I really don't like how she gets to "lead" the special coverage nights cuz I think Nicole & a few others are much better at round table discussions.
Yesterday I found an old article, pre-pandemic, on MSNBC host salaries & I couldn't believe the discrepancies!! I hope it wasn't accurate, cuz Katie Tur was one of the higher paid women & Kornacki made more than a lot of the women.
JI7
(93,618 posts)The thought of 4 more years of that shit is just something many can't take.
Aristus
(72,188 posts)n/t
Quiet Em
(2,937 posts)I have zero interest in hearing about the con man or his chaos 24/7.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)The Magats live for our outrage. They live for our discomfort, as revealed partly by our public responses to the things they are doing, including through MSNBC. They find our misery hilarious, and they see it as some kind of victory for themselves.
I am thinking a lot about "spheres of influence and spheres of concern."
I will concern myself where I have influence. I can't control those people, I have no influence on what those nut jobs are going to do for the next two years at least, so I am going to try to limit my exposure to their nut-jobbery. I can't influence it, so it does no good for me to concern myself with it.
Shit will rain down upon my head, along with everyone else's. But for the next two years, there is little I can do about it. I will react to the shit in ways that protect myself and my loved ones as much as possible, but I'm not going to engage much in the public sphere. (Except, of course, for my addiction to DU.)
I'm just not going to provide them with their sick entertainment.
JI7
(93,618 posts)I'm sure the numbers will increase again later on but there isn't much point in watching now if it's just going to make you misersble.
Nothing he does is shocking or surprising. But what can we do ourselves ? I will try to focus on personal and local and other areas. I will of course vote and help out any way I'm needed.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)that nothing they do shocks me. I am pretty certain we know how it's going to go, and rather than watching with fear, I'm hunkering down and shoring up my resources. I have a plan for if the worst occurs, and other than that, I'm just concentrating on getting through. And we will get through.
Politicub
(12,328 posts)I was an avid MSNBC watcher until the election. Now I get my news from non-video sources, and avoid broadcast as much as I can. Its not anything that MSNBC did; this is more about how my preferences changed.
While I think that what the Morning Joe folks did was cowardly, I never watched MSNBC in the morning anyway.
You can stay on top of current events without tuning into cable news or doom scrolling all day.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)or play his voice. It upsets so many people.
spanone
(141,628 posts)Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)Outside of his supporters?
I lived through 2017-2021. Where people just discussed the man all day every day, clips, media, flooding every square inch of the internet. And then after he left office, we still had to talk about him all day for some reason? I've had filters in place for all things Trump for going on 5 years now. It's absolutely lovely. Sure, plenty still gets through, but at least my content experiences aren't utterly saturated. (And for those unaware, DU has filter features for keywords. I put every permutation and nickname for Trump in there)
Just because the circus is in town doesn't mean I have to attend.
Reading a few news articles for five to ten minutes gives me enough information for awareness. Hours of overpaid pseudo journalists repeating, opining, and speculating about what I already know sounds so tedious. I imagine it's what hell is like for the slothful. Like a perverse Ludovico's Technique that people volunteer for.
Just a general pass.
angrychair
(12,285 posts)I started watching international news recently and the difference is stark. I've watched it before, just not regularly. The difference in content, vocabulary, quality of information and details is shocking to the system at first. I mean US based TV reporting is like they are talking to a brain damaged 12 yr old. It's actually embarrassing how simplistic and repetitive most US based reporting is.
It really does feel like we are on the decline.
Prairie Gates
(8,157 posts)That's it. No US media at all.
Both of those lean a bit right, but even with that, they're 1,000x better than any US media. The US media is a fucking joke right now.
walkingman
(10,865 posts)The love for people who are nasty, bigots, criminals, and immoral is on the rise. In their minds
America is well on it's way to being GREAT AGAIN. Praise Jesus!
lame54
(39,771 posts)That will wake them up
It won't be free speech or other under appreciated rights
It will be something good like porn or soda or cable TV or etc...
Something frivolous will jolt them out of it
Sundance1220
(285 posts)went for the both siderism because they WANTED trump to win to goose their ratings again. What they didn't count on was so many of us just giving up on them and their quest for ratings and tuning out. I ONLY watch Nicole in the morning (from the day before) while getting ready for work. I'll probably dvr Rachel also but that's it.
cjoki4
(42 posts)When they piled on Joe Biden, I was done with MSNBC.
Im only reading DU and watching local news.
kerouac2
(1,495 posts)Have been watching sci Fi type stuff and not listening. Was mainly MSNBC. After the election, I felt that bubble of hard truth isn't a place I need to be for a bit.
Those in the fox bubble are in a bad place because it is not based on facts, it is based on stoking fear, hatred and cult like dedication.
Unfortunately, fox is very persuasive to a lot of people. It's like a legitimized tabloid. It will be hard to get those people away from it, especially without a bunch of equally satisfying options.
Bonx
(2,353 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)And I know that the medias free and non stop coverage of him in the first place and FAILURE for the most part to call him out the way they should have, all in the name of ratings and profit, is the reason he rose to power and the reason we are here today.
Who wants to watch the fascist shit show II demise of the country while many media kiss up to psycho and PRETEND that all is normal?
Its like the invasion of the body snatchers.
Many do apparently, I am sure they will go back in time after the shock of the election.
Betty Boom
(447 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 29, 2024, 05:37 AM - Edit history (1)
If they would stop showing his image or playing his voice, I would probably start consuming the news again. But I despise him so much that his voice and his image are triggering. I simply cant stand it. Its hard enough to even read his words like his horrible message for Thanksgiving today. Hes just so hateful. It can ruin my entire day, just hearing the sound of his voice