Snopes Debunks Spoonamore

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The people spreading baseless claims owe it to themselves and those being subjected to this misinformation campaign to read Snopes' breakdown in full.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/

Snopes is thorough and encompassing. Spoonamore has no credibility, and his assertions are based on claims he refuses to verify.

We have work to do. Enough distractions. This stuff only helps the Right.

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1. Oswald didn't kill Kennedy.

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2. Don't forget to donate a bit to Snopes now and then!! nt

[obamanut2012]

10. I do not give money to wingnut Trumpers

That si who runs Snopes.

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3. Snopes did hand recounts?

Nope

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5. Well - - - There ya have it then .. !

Excellent ! Top marks in 'internet debate' ! That really put 'em in their place !

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7. There is no other way to "debunk" this

Its not difficult and I don't know why some people are trying to make it such.

If the software was hacked and changed votes, there would be no paper trail or evidence. The evidence would be the paper ballots showing completely different numbers than the electronic counts. There is no other way to prove this one way or another. Instead of continuing to spend time trying to "debunk" this man or any others who have made such claims, just do a selective count of the damn ballots and be done with it. We aren't making wild, ever-changing claims like Trump did in 2020. Its a specific claim.

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14. there are almost always 'hand count' audits in the aftermath

to verify the machines accuracy. 1) this is performed by actual election officials with the duty, responsibility and authority to perform such tasks (and, fortunately for all of us, as well as election integrity - not the Sally Sidelines and Steven Spoonamores of the blogosphere and 2) it is neither necessary nor productive to 'hand count' an entire state - we'll say PA - in order to 'verify' results. It isn't required - it doesn't prove anything - it is a massive, and massively expensive undertaking - and it serves to further illustrate that the Sally Sidelines out there really don't understand the subject or know what they are talking about.

And finally, you are also incorrect in your assertion that there is "no other way to debunk" Spoonamore's claims. In fact Snope just did so - by pointing to faulty figures, faulty math, and faulty logic and assumption. That is quite sufficient to 'debunk' Mr Spoonamore - and the basis of his argument.

Self-described tech executive and network engineer Stephen Spoonamore asserted in a letter to U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris his "near certainty" that she, not President-elect Donald Trump, won the 2024 presidential election.

Spoonamore described a hacking and fraud scheme whereby fake "bullet vote" ballots marked only for Trump and no other races or issues were inserted into electronic voting systems.

However, Snopes' research, in which we compared the vote tallies cited by Spoonamore with the latest official election results, found his figures to be incorrect and his assertions to make no mathematical sense.

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4. A big THANKS ! And this joker is getting a certain amount of support

and repetition on the site. "Well he IS an expert .. " "Owe it to ourselves to listen to all .. "

The sooner we get clear of this nonsense the better.

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6. Snopes posts like htis always seem to get criticism that Snopes is owned by a white winger or some such junk.

Seems to me they have Spoon nailed, though.

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9. Snopes is owned by a wingnut now

It didn't used to be, but the dude that runs it is on the Right.

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8. Snopes is now RW, remember that

Although I doubt this guy is correct.

In the divorce, Snopes went to teh husband who is RW and a Trumper.

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11. They have pillows, apparently we have spoons.

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12. Generally just support who pays them most

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13. This stuff only helps the right?

It sure didn't help us when they did it. They screamed loud and wide and it didn't hurt them a bit.

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17. trash

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18. Warning: Snopes is usually right BUT...

Not always.