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kentuck

(115,406 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:41 PM Nov 2024

Joe and Mika visited Trump because they were asked to do so by their superiors?

In my opinion, that is what happened.

They were concerned about the precipitous drop in viewers after the election. So they wanted to get back on the "winning" side and requested Joe and Mika to make the trip to Mar-a-Lago.

They both make a tidy salary from MSNBC. They also want to protect their own interests.

So they kissed the ring.

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Joe and Mika visited Trump because they were asked to do so by their superiors? (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2024 OP
I don't think they had to be asked. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #1
That is possible... kentuck Nov 2024 #6
Whatever the reason, it was out of fear. n/t Dennis Donovan Nov 2024 #2
Given their money BigMin28 Nov 2024 #3
They are both old enough to retire if they choose. They are rich. travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #14
In the chaotic days right before the election... Hugin Nov 2024 #4
Timothy Snyder an expect on authoritarianism... nycbos Nov 2024 #5
That is an excuse Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #7
They thought they could pull it off.. kentuck Nov 2024 #8
With the choices being to willfully kiss the ring, or stay at home, one with the other, taxi Nov 2024 #9
Indeed! kentuck Nov 2024 #10
I'm Going To Take A Wait And See Attitude OhioTim Nov 2024 #11
I'm taking an I Don't Give A Shit attitude. For the time being. (nt) Paladin Nov 2024 #12
I'm taking the attitude that we already know what is going to happen... kentuck Nov 2024 #13
I'm afraid you're correct. (nt) Paladin Nov 2024 #15

Ocelot II

(130,526 posts)
1. I don't think they had to be asked.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:43 PM
Nov 2024

It's more likely that it was their idea and they pitched it to MSNBC.

BigMin28

(1,859 posts)
3. Given their money
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:48 PM
Nov 2024

They could have walked away, if they were asked by superiors. In which case it's either greed versus principles. Greed won.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
14. They are both old enough to retire if they choose. They are rich.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 02:23 PM
Nov 2024

Pure cowardice to bend the knee. The dead intern would have disappeared again when they had no public platform so Trump's threat would have been dead too.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
4. In the chaotic days right before the election...
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:48 PM
Nov 2024

Leonard Leo had revealed plans to de-liberalize the media (yeah, I had a bitter chuckle saying that). Much as his efforts had done to the SCrOTUS.

I believe what we’re seeing with MSNBC is part of that effort.

nycbos

(6,715 posts)
5. Timothy Snyder an expect on authoritarianism...
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 2024

… who I think ironically has been on Morning Joe several times, has a book called On Tyranny 20 Lessons From The 20th century. It is well worth a read, especially now.

Lesson number one is “don’t obey in advance.” He talks about how dictators like Hitler and Stalin gain power by people surrendering freedoms without being asked. He calls it anticipatory obedience. This is what Joe and Mika did by kissing the ring.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,301 posts)
7. That is an excuse
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 12:58 PM
Nov 2024

They could have walked away, they don’t need the money. They just showed everyone they have no principles and their supposed dislike of trump was an act.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
8. They thought they could pull it off..
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 01:00 PM
Nov 2024

I have no doubt.

But it seems to have backfired in the most dramatic fashion.

taxi

(2,712 posts)
9. With the choices being to willfully kiss the ring, or stay at home, one with the other,
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 01:07 PM
Nov 2024

the ring had a busy day in the kissing booth.

OhioTim

(389 posts)
11. I'm Going To Take A Wait And See Attitude
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 01:14 PM
Nov 2024

I've mostly stopped watching TV for now. However, I'm not giving up on MSNBC. It's really the only liberal television outlet. Same with the NY Times. I heard an interview on PBS with the previous editor last week. He spoke of a meeting with him, Bezos and Trump during Trump's first presidency. He said Bezos strongly defended the paper to Trump and said that people cancelling their subscriptions would weaken one of the most important papers in the US which could lead to a sale to someone like Musk or worse.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
13. I'm taking the attitude that we already know what is going to happen...
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 01:31 PM
Nov 2024

From what we have witnessed in the past.

And it ain't pretty.

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