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LetMyPeopleVote

(155,064 posts)
1. Statement from President Joe Biden Remembering the Holodomor
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:53 PM
Nov 24


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/11/23/statement-from-president-joe-biden-remembering-the-holodomor/
November 23, 2024
Statement from President Joe Biden Remembering the Holodomor

Statements and Releases
Ninety-one years ago, Joseph Stalin and the Soviet regime engineered the Holodomor, a forced and deliberate famine that killed millions of Ukrainians. We remember the men, women, and children who perished during the Holodomor. We also honor the survivors of the Holodomor and their descendants who, despite Stalin’s efforts to repress Ukraine’s national identity, have built a free, independent, and democratic Ukraine. 

Today, as we mark the solemn anniversary of the Holodomor, we also renew our commitment to stand with the Ukrainian people in their time of need. For nearly three years, Russia has been waging a brutal war against the Ukrainian people in an attempt to wipe Ukraine off the map. In this effort, Russia has failed. Kyiv stands free, thanks in part to the United States and the more than 50 other countries that are committed to providing Ukraine with the assistance it needs to defend itself.

My message to the Ukrainian people on this day is clear: The United States honors your past and stands with you in the present. On this day, we reaffirm our commitment to supporting Ukraine’s ongoing defense of its freedom, its pursuit of justice, and its path to the Euro-Atlantic future it has chosen for itself. The courage and strength of the Ukrainian people will prevail.

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Marthe48

(19,179 posts)
2. traitor and putin will try that on the U.S.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:56 PM
Nov 24

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The religious dicks that headed us this way will learn the hard way that eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood is symbolic

3auld6phart

(1,283 posts)
10. I went
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:02 PM
Nov 24

To school with Ukrainian kids a lot othem they were a great bunch , dang seems so long ago…Slava Ukraine. Ks x times.

paleotn

(19,374 posts)
15. Have to be. They've got bad neighbors.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:53 PM
Nov 24

Maybe it's because I'm a child of the Cold War and during my service they were the boogeymen we trained to fight. But I cannot think of one single positive thing attributable to Russia. Not one.

Biophilic

(4,902 posts)
16. I visited Russia in the late 70s. We had 2 Intourist guides, one in Leningrad/St Petersburg and one in Moscow.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:00 PM
Nov 24

They were like day and night. The Leningrad open and more than willing to talk. The one in Moscow totally closed off and very official. It was an interesting trip. The people we interacted with were very open and interested in the US.

cilla4progress

(25,968 posts)
9. I know a little of this history.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 07:48 PM
Nov 24

Andrea Chalupa's film Mr. Jones which documents among other things the NYT "sanewashing" of the war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Jones_(2019_film)

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,064 posts)
14. This event needs to be remembered
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:35 PM
Nov 24




At the entrance to Kyiv's memorial park, a haunting sculpture depicts a very thin girl with a very sad look and a handful of wheat. Behind her stands a giant Candle of Remembrance of the Holodomor, a man-made famine that killed millions of Ukrainians.

In the aftermath of World War I, Ukraine was independent. However, in 1919, the Soviet Union forcibly annexed the nation. Ukrainians, yearning for self-determination, were seen as a threat to Moscow's imperial ambitions.

In 1932, not wanting to lose control of Europe's main source of grain, Stalin confiscated the grain-producing land from Ukrainian peasants and took all the grain, creating an artificial famine. The goal was to "teach Ukrainians a lesson" so they would no longer oppose Moscow. The people who produced the most grain in Europe were left without a crumb of bread.

The height of this horrific event was in the spring of 1933, when millions of Ukrainians perished from hunger.

My late grandfather was a child, only 9, during the Holodomor. He recounted witnessing people starving to death in the streets, or just collapsing, their bodies eventually collected and disposed of in mass graves. Both dead and those still dying. In rare moments when he'd open up about it, it was very clear that the event deeply scarred him for life.

To conceal the extent of the genocide, Stalin's regime erased evidence, executed census takers, and resettled russian populations in Ukrainian villages. For decades, the Holodomor remained a silenced history, buried beneath layers of Soviet propaganda.

The Holodomor at that time broke the Ukrainian resistance, but it made the desire for Ukraine's independence eternal, forever imprinting it in our DNA.

As russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine continues, the specter of the Holodomor looms large. Every fourth Saturday of November, we light a candle to remember the victims of the Holodomor. This year, I ask you to light a candle with us and share information about the bloody genocide of the Ukrainian people that is happening yet again.

ancianita

(38,768 posts)
11. Thank you thank you thank you! This is important history for the West and all NATO allies.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:07 PM
Nov 24

America needs to know about starvation as war strategy by criminal state leaders. As Cheney famously learned from history and said, "Food is a weapon."

Soviet and Nazi alternatives to democracy depended on their rejecting simple land reform or ownership. Nazis and Soviets baited peasants with the illusion of land reform, but actually had far more radical plans. They both wanted Ukraine's food but Ukraine was more than a source of food. It was the place that would let them both break the rules of traditional economics, rescue Germany & Russia from poverty and remake the European continent in their own image.

Ukrainians would die in the millions, in the greatest artificial famine in the history of the world. During the years of Hitler and Stalin, more people were killed by starvation than anywhere else in the bloodlands, Europe, or in the world.


This book is a mustmust read about Ukraine and Russia. It explains what drives today's Ukrainians to fight Russia with all their heart, soul, mind and strength. And why we must find ways to help Ukraine, even if we donate through other NATO nations to help them. (sorry the photo's so big, couldn't find anything smaller)

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,064 posts)
12. Putin was planning an ethic cleansing of Ukraine if his invasion plans had gone according to his plan
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:22 PM
Nov 24

Putin had plans to cleanse Ukraine if his invasion had gone according to plan





https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42721

Russia had planned a new wave of genocidal actions against Ukrainians long before its full-scale invasion in February 2022, according to Kyrylo Budanov, Chief of Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR).

The revelations were made during the forum “Russia’s Genocidal Practices in Ukraine: From the Holodomor to the Russian-Ukrainian War.”

“Russia’s preparation for genocide against the Ukrainian people before the full-scale invasion included the creation of kill lists, mobile crematoriums, and plans for mass burials,” Budanov stated, as reported by the HUR press service.

Budanov pointed to a 2021 article by Russian President Vladimir Putin that denied the existence of a Ukrainian nation, saying it laid the groundwork for subsequent atrocities.

“Russian propaganda, top state authorities, high-ranking officials, and the entire state apparatus, emboldened by their leader, have repeatedly called for the destruction of Ukrainians,” he said.

Putin wanted to follow in Stalin's footsteps and try to eliminate Ukraine as a nation

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