Raw Story: Kamala Harris eyes re-run for White House: report

[Dennis Donovan]

Raw Story - Kamala Harris eyes re-run for White House: report

Adam Nichols
November 25, 2024 7:46AM ET



Vice President Kamala Harris is eyeing a potential second attempt at taking the White House, according to a report Monday.

Politico claimed the Democratic nominee who was soundly beaten by President-elect Donald Trump is considering returning to the campaign trail in 2028.

Harris has been spending the post-election with family and aides in Hawaii, according to the report.

“Privately, the vice president has been instructing advisers and allies to keep her options open — whether for a possible 2028 presidential run, or even to run for governor in her home state of California in two years,” the report stated.

Five people Politico claimed were in Harris’ inner circle shared her plans with the outlet.

“She doesn’t have to decide if she wants to run for something again in the next six months,” said one. “The natural thing to do would be to set up some type of entity that would give her the opportunity to travel and give speeches and preserve her political relationships.”

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[Dumpy]

1. We will see if she does better in her next primary contest

I will reserve my vote for when the field of candidates emerge in three years.

[GP6971]

54. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. Your usual pizza order is on the way.

[JI7]

2. A white man will most likely be the nominee

People will go for a "safe" choice.

Probably Beshear, Shapiro , or Newsom.

Even in 2020 many that supported Harris voted for Biden as they felt he was a safer pick . After what happened no matter how much we love Harris or other women that may run I think people will vote for what they see as the "safer" pick.

[delisen]

16. Retreating is not going to work

and will be called out by many Democrats for what it is , a form of appeasement
It will also be seen as a sign of weakness by the forces of authoritarianism who will be even more emboldened to instill fear In Democrats and Independents.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Neither is doing the same thing and continually losing elections

That doesn’t work either.

[delisen]

44. We have been choosing while men for

over two hundred years . we have suffered slavery, oppression, horrible discrimination, unjust wars bad health, and a host of other horrors. Inequality may work for you but don't expect the rest of us to fall in line for this we need to back only white male to win bs.

[BannonsLiver]

58. Ancient history that's pointless to relitigate.

All I care about is winning, because it’s the only thing that matters. I would vote for a harbor seal in the primary if I thought they can win.

[delisen]

68. Nothing to do with stye points

Just letting you know we may well choose a female candidate in 2028 and if we do you can accept it or not. The men of Mexico proved that being fake is only a barrier to winning If we llwe make it one And pretend that there are no other explanations

[BannonsLiver]

73. We may and if that's the case I will enthusiastically support that.

My point is that if I were betting I would bet against that scenario.

[Ndp5]

38. Agreed

Picking a white man because he’s a white man is stupid — it will not fool swing voters and will depress core Dem constituencies.

I’d have nothing against a white man with an abundance of charisma and a demonstrated track record of standing up to the wealthy interests destroying democracy. But the most obvious white male choice is Gavin Newsom, and he ain’t that. Easily painted as effete and out of touch, he would open up a field day for Republicans about California’s governance failures. “Do you want all of America to look like downtown San Francisco?” etc.

If Harris wants to run again, more power to her. Let her build up a national profile and a grassroots organization and beat out other candidates in a primary. She won over voters who blanched at Biden, a white male, in 2020, and she hasn’t gotten much credit for doing so well given the truncated campaign and the major albatross of an unpopular incumbent president.

[Stuckinthebush]

18. Agreed. American isn't ready and may not be for a long ass time

Stupid I know, but that's the reality.

I'm betting Newsom. Or Beshear. The primary fight will be interesting.

[delisen]

40. Meanwhile Mexico elected a woman president

And moved ahead of us in abortion and climate.
It is not our reality. It is a reality you are trying to choose for us.

[BannonsLiver]

59. And the Tories in Britain just made a black woman their leader.

But alas, the US is not Mexico or the UK.

[Stuckinthebush]

108. This

Sadly the US is still a backwards nation when it comes to female and minority representation in the halls of power. The "But, Mexico" and "But, UK" arguments are invalid here. It sucks so damn bad and it makes me sick, but the reality is that our voting population is ill informed, have negative views about women leading us, and harbor conscious or unconscious racist attitudes. This last election wasn't about the price of eggs. That was an excuse not to vote for the female and/or minority candidate.

[CTyankee]

41. I don't know Beshear but I like Newsom. He's got very appealing looks and I like the way he sounds.

But Cali is considered a foreign state to many people in other parts of the country and taught to hate by the RW. I'd like to see him try tho.

[Stuckinthebush]

66. Yeah that California hate is wild

Could be a problem for Gavin

[CTyankee]

75. I think we have to stay away from the obvious target of Hollywood because people in the rest of the country who are

vulnerable to repukes trying to divide us and Cali people are definitely "they" not "us" to them.

[LisaL]

87. He is appealing to us.

But likely not to rural voters.

[H2O Man]

51. Right.

It will not be Shapiro.

[elleng]

101. READY????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher

[Stuckinthebush]

106. They were ready

Clearly we aren't. Says a lot about the ridiculousness of our culture.

Also, the UK PM is elected by the representatives. It's not a popular or even weird electoral college election. People in districts vote for their delegates who then represent a party. The majority party or coalition then choses their leader who then becomes the PM. It would be be like Johnson wining the PM position because he party representatives chose him. No way he wins a popular or electoral victory. So when we look at the election of a president compared to a PM in the UK we are talking apples and oranges.

I hate it about this country but misogyny is still rampant. Perhaps as this young generation becomes older they will begin to change things.

[BannonsLiver]

25. White or possibly Hispanic

[dutch777]

3. Don't fault her for the loss but also don't see her getting another shot. Wish Biden had given her the reigns two...

...years ago. The handlers and advisors to Biden and the DNC did us no favors in what I can only assume was their own wish to keep a grip on power at now great cost to our party. Will we learn? Governor of CA is not a bad gig and I do hope she remains a voice in the party. Then where does Newsom go? Given all the texts I got from him to vote/donate (in PA!) I have to think he thinks he is Presidential candidate bound. I see NO scenario short of a seismic shift in the national electorate that puts a liberal CA governor in the White House. Shapiro is a contender for sure.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Biden's public appearances were metered for a reason

They were long, but few. He did fine in interviews. But by 2024's SOTU you could see he aged. Yet he held his own for that great event. The fact they wanted to get the debates done early was a tell.

I too doubt VP Harris will be the nominee again. She was heroic, but lacked creds on some level. As heartfelt and true to her rule of law instincts as prosecutor, she didn't connect on international issues, and the convention as glitzy as it was and well staged, came off a tad too theatrical. If Trump was Celebrity Apprentice, she had a bit of Oprah interview to her persona. Our female candidates including GOP's Haley, don't model US business attire. It's been more pant suits big city or even California style rather than small town banker, real estate agents, and civic organizations style. But personally I doubt anything we said or did would connect with MAGA. You could tell MAGA that Trump invited a Russian invasion to steal their refrigerator and all their food and they would salute.

There, I've said enough to bring on an onslaught of distraught anger. But that's how I see it. Our public perception is not realizing the full potential of our candidates, the lives they lead, their agenda, our platform.

[Polybius]

23. "The fact they wanted to get the debates done early was a tell"

100% true. When his team pushed for an unheard of June debate, I immediately knew the reason why. I just couldn't say it here, because I would have gotten attacked.

[Dumpy]

93. Biden could have stepped down after two years in office.

That would have given Harris a little less than two years to be president and allowed to serve two more full terms.

[LisaL]

107. What makes you think she would have been elected?

I see nothing to indicate that would have happened, even if she served as president for the reminder of Biden's term.

[tritsofme]

112. I don't think she could have won under any circumstance. But at least if Biden dropped out

we could have had a competitive primary, and chosen a stronger candidate.

It seems impossible that someone like Whitmer or Shapiro would have been completely frozen out of the Blue Wall.

[Blue_Roses]

4. Alot of variables

will go into her decision. Mainly, what will this country look like in two years. Voters regret for Trump will be a factor for many decisions and there will be voters regret. You can count on it.

[DeepWinter]

5. Edit

[mopinko]

6. good. she can do what tsf did- criticize everything he does for the next 4 yrs.

repeat after me, kamala- i told u so, i told u so, i told u so.
maybe then ppl will believe her, and not him.

[JI7]

8. She will be held to different standards

the media will demand research papers and proposals on what she would do if she criticizes him.

[CTyankee]

43. And then laugh her wonderful laugh. I must say I got enchanted with her a bit...

[tritsofme]

7. I think she would do as well as a candidate as she did in the 2020 primaries

Which is about the same I would have expected if there was an open primary in 2024, had Biden not sought reelection.

She’s just not a great presidential candidate, I’m excited about other potential options like Whitmer, Shapiro, or Fetterman.

Almost zero chance either of those candidates gets completely frozen out of the Blue Wall.

[Horse with no Name]

9. I approve

She ran a magnificent campaign despite what the old guard thinks. I think there were shenanigans with the election, however, realize that they won’t be investigated. I will proudly support her moving forward.

[BComplex]

60. The republicans cheated by so many means this election. Harris has not fought for the votes that were truly hers,

after she had said she would fight for the American people and for our democracy. She hasn't challenged the votes in those states that the hacker specialists say were hacked, nor thrown a fit to get the provisional ballots counted from all those millions of people who were thrown off the rolls at the last minute...or even before, and they didn't know about it until they went to vote!

She gave up too easily.

I will NEVER believe that
1) It was the fault of black men
2) It was the fault of latino men
3) 10 million women decided to stay home.

That is white nationalist bullshit if I've ever heard it.

And they're trying to say that people just didn't vote? All over the country, all I heard about was how they had NEVER SEEN ANYTHING like the turnout they were experiencing. Huge and massive were words we kept hearing.

[tritsofme]

74. This is absolute election denial nonsense. Don't slur Harris because she doesn't humor your ridiculous conspiracy

theories.

Don’t slur Harris because she doesn’t believe delusional bullshit. That is a problem for the folks that have been hustled by idiots, not Harris.

[BComplex]

96. You can say all those things without making personal attacks.

Just sayin'. DU has rules.

[tritsofme]

100. Nope, I am just opposing literal slurs against Harris, because she refuses to play along with Trump-style conspiracy

theories that have no basis in reality.

Denial is a stage of grief, I understand that, but it is well past time to move forward.

[BComplex]

102. Here ya go.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219733251

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219730328

[tritsofme]

103. The spoon guy is a proven liar. Why continue to spread his disinformation while slurring VP Harris?

[Happy Hoosier]

10. Depending on how this term goes...

... I'd support this.

If the Trump admin steps on a rake, she can run the "I fucking told you so" tour.

I'm still a big fan of Kamala. I could see myself supporting her in the primaries.

[mcar]

12. She was not "soundly beaten" Politico

you hacks.

[Kaleva]

13. Raw Story said that

[mcar]

17. That's even worse

WTF, Raw Story?

[yardwork]

31. I noticed that too. Assholes.

[BlueHurricane]

36. Yea thank you - agree!

I noticed that “soundly” comment. 1.5% 1.6%? Something pretty close she lost by. “Soundly” my ass. Hacks.

[ITAL]

14. I anticipate her running for Governor

Much to Kounalakis' chagrin. For some reason I don't really expect her to seriously go after the presidency again. It's really tough to get the rebound from being the party's nominee and losing. I mean Trump did it, but he has an unnatural following amongst his supporters. Before him Nixon did it, but he had a Democratic Party Civil War playing out during 1968 (and STILL almost lost). Adlai Stevenson was a two time sacrificial lamb since I don't think anyone thought Ike was gonna lose either time.

[obamanut2012]

113. Yup, I agree with all of this

And hope she is mynext Governor!

[ismnotwasm]

15. Good.

[yellowcanine]

19. I think she will be favored in the Dem primary.

I believe it will be her and Shapiro battling it out.

[H2O Man]

52. I agree

that she would be favored. I don't think Shapiro will be a factor, but there are other strong candidates.

[Polybius]

69. As long as she can beat the others running

If no one else runs and everyone endorses her, well, that would be an awful, awful idea. She has to win primaries and beat out top contenders next time around.

[obamanut2012]

20. I really hope she's my Governor after Gavin is gone

I know she is friends with Eleni Kounalakis, Newson's Lt Gov so may not, but she has a better chance than Kounalakis imo.

I actually see Eleni Kounalakis around town relatively often, including at the gym.

[Polybius]

22. A run for CA Governor would be fine

A run for President in 2028 would be a bad idea.

[BannonsLiver]

24. Hopefully once things settle down she'll decide to run for Gov.

It’s unlikely she will be president.

[Gore1FL]

27. If we have a nominee from CA, it will likely be Newsom. nt

[Quiet Em]

28. She would have my vote again.

.

[Traildogbob]

29. Like there will

Be, Another Election.
King Elon will make sure that never happens.
Of course I hope that’s outrageous and paranoid, but, I will never put anything past America right wing evil and their media.
Recess appointments say it all.

[flvegan]

30. So, which do we think is going to happen for Harris to run* again?

Either America is "scared straight" by the next 4 years of Shitty McShitbag and his administrations various abuses; or

Roughly 30% of American voters suddenly smartens up and un-MAGAs themselves; or

Those Americans that simply couldn't be bothered to vote this last time suddenly realize their votes matter and show up 100% for Harris.

My thoughts/opinions?

The first option is unlikely. It would literally take wiping out all of social security, the ACA, etc to even come close. The second option in impossible. They're simply too stupid (spare me the lectures on calling them stupid because that won't win them over, it's a simple reality). The third option is LOL. Still won't be bothered to vote. We are literally writing the prequel for Idiocracy right now.

*for the office of the president

[Elessar Zappa]

33. We lost one election.

That doesn’t mean our chances of winning again are gone. The pendulum always swings and always has.

[flvegan]

35. That pendulum has never

had to swing on this timeline. I don't think we've ever had this level of great candidate lose against that level of shit human before.

I appreciate the positivity, though. I mean that.

[Elessar Zappa]

42. The squishy 10%

voted for him based purely on “economics”. Those voters are the ones we’ll likely get back next time.

[Polybius]

70. She was good, but to win we need a generational candidate

Obama had it all.

[Demobrat]

34. Or he could drop dead

and Vance could end up being too charismatically challenged to keep MAGA together.

[Demobrat]

32. Well she can run for four years

like the pig did. She will be in for a fight though. Newsom was not happy with her anointment, and he will fight her bitterly in 2028.

[cilla4progress]

37. We need a leader to arise.

I'm all in for Kamala

[Thrill]

39. No thanks. Thank you for your service

.

[EndlessWire]

45. I don't think there's going to be

another election. We aren't willing to look at the possibility that the Repubs cheated. We are "tired." They will be so entrenched that any checks and balances will be gone. We'll be lucky if we still have the 22nd Amendment.

If she runs again, I will vote for her. I'd like not to see her run for the Governorship. We have four years to educate people. Something that promotes that should be done.

As far as her being female, and people wanting something easy, well, grow up. A white, male candidate is not someone I'll be looking for! Newsome isn't the answer, anyway.

At any rate, Kamala is free to run. Relatively free. If there is the open vote on who to send, a la what they said Pelosi was ranting about, then it will be hashed out then. Kamala is very well spoken, had some really good ideas, and she will terrify any Repub candidate. Other than calling her the "C" word, what have they got?

Their candidate will probably be Vance. He's not exactly the charismatic, premium candidate they'll need. I think they cheated this time. They may have to do it again to win with Vance. We are making a mistake to sit here and just let Trump take office without making an attempt to figure out how they did it.

[jalan48]

46. Unlike this go round there will be a primary next time. Whoever wins will be determined by the ballot.

We will have a number of good candidates running and letting the voters decide will give us our best shot at winning.

[GP6971]

48. Hi Sunshine!! A new week to look forward to!!!

[Scrivener7]

57. You poor dear. You don't even see the shit that's about to fall on your own idiot head.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Soundly beaten??? She lost by 1.6 points.

Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2024, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)

[PuraVidaDreamin]

50. Yup! Declare as soon as that clown takes the oath

Oath- yah- that's funeeee.

Anyhowz- That would keep him from prosecuting her for what ever crap
he makes up about her.

[elleng]

55. NOT 'soundly beaten,'

and NO MANDATE for tmp.

[LisaL]

88. We lost all the swing states, did we not?

I do not think she should run for president again.

[elleng]

89. NOT by big numbers.

Whether she runs again to be determined LATER.

[pinkstarburst]

56. Much as I love her, I would not support her in the primary.

I am a huge fan of Harris and am devastated that she didn't win.

But I think we would be shooting ourselves in the foot by re-running candidates who have proven that they cannot win national elections.

By that argument, why not run Hillary again? Why not run Al Gore?

Democrats already weighed in on her once in the primary (and she got little support) and she did not win the national election. Voters weighed in on the national level. Voters did not choose her. It devastates me that they did not choose her on many levels, just like it devastated me that they would not vote for Hillary, two immensely qualified women, but ultimately, we cannot force voters to accept a candidate they don't like for whatever reason (be it racism, sexism, or something else.) Running someone who has never been successful (TWICE) would be a huge mistake. While I have the highest opinion of Harris, I would not support her a second time. We need to move on to someone else.

If she wants to run for governor of California, she absolutely should.

[Lincolnite]

61. Excellent news

Thanks for sharing!

[oldmanlynn]

62. I hope not she won't be able to win.

[Bonx]

63. I like it. A lot.

[dalton99a]

64. The campaign of joy will be renamed the campaign of irrational exuberance

[Prairie Gates]

67. LOL

Burn

[Bobstandard]

71. The 'politics of joy' was a loser

And so was pledging to ‘bring this country together’. I’m the base. It turned me off. I donated, phone banked etc, but the whole time I was thinking, ‘this is a knife fight and your weapon of choice is joy? And comity?’

I was momentarily hopeful when they started calling republicans weird but that didn’t last

[alarimer]

72. Granted, Trump won't be running (I hope he'll be dead)

So, I'm not going to reflexively say no.

With Trump not in the race, all of his fans will (hopefully) either be dead themselves or won't bother to vote.

No one else has Trump's bizarre charisma. They are like bags of wet cement in comparison. (I find Trump utterly repulsive but he has a strange hold over a lot of people).

[LonePirate]

76. This country will not elect a woman to be president for at least several more decades.

Sad, but true. Harris is better off running for Governor of California.

[J_William_Ryan]

77. "A white man will most likely be the nominee"

After 2008 I’ve assumed Democrats would have a ticket with at least one American of color moving forward.

It’s who we are.

[Ann B]

78. Four Year Effort

Yes, and just as Trump proclaimed himself a candidate ever since Pres. Biden has been in office, she and anyone else who plans to run should campaign for four years. Just as with Trump something (hopefully good. Not prosecutions and rumors thereof) should be in the news on a daily basis. Trump destroyed the days of a limited campaign season.

[Patton French]

79. She can win and probably did this time.

No primary!

[tritsofme]

81. No primary? lol, that's not going to happen.

[Polybius]

84. If there's no primary in 2028, I'm writing my own name in

I'll still vote for her in the general though.

[Blasphemer]

80. Great - it's WAY too early to make predictions about who can win in 2028

Clinton would have won in 2008 because W screwed up enough to have a 24% approval rating. If Trump's second term is as big of a disaster as we think it will be, a woman or a BIPOC person can win.

[msfiddlestix]

82. Governor. Although it should be mentioned that the Heritage Foundation et Al are working hard to

do the same thing in California as they have nationally.
it's a real thing to be concerned about and resist.

[standingtall]

83. Nope

She will not get the nomination in 2028. Not her fault, but She lost and that's a bad memory voters are not going to want to revisit.

Andy Beshear looks like the best option for 2028 to me. I know a lot of people like Newsom, but he will have California baggage hanging over his head and Beshear is 11 years younger and like Newsom, Beshear is also a very charming speaker and we might even make a small improvements with rural voters with Beshear, especially after Trump wrecks the economy.

[ibegurpard]

85. If so she needs to be screaming from the rooftops

For the next 4 years extremely aggressively about how these assholes are ruining the working class economy.
On every microblog across the spectrum.

[LisaL]

86. I don't think that's a good idea.

What is going to change in 2028 to make a difference?

[Tribetime]

90. I think Harris ran a perfect Campaign..Killed drumph in debate

Like no one ever has ..best debate ever. If Harris lost I fear the Country is either racist or not going to elect a woman....I thought Harris would win in a landslide. Through no fault of hers the Country is full of racist idiots.

[Stuckinthebush]

109. She did!

She was practically perfect on paper. Beautifully done - lots of cash, too. We need to face that our country is full of fools and people with unconscious racist and misogynistic leanings.

A story from 2016 - after the election I was having a beer with a friend who is a banker and traditional republican. He is married to a brilliant lawyer who is a Dem. He said that she came home from voting and said at the last minute she marked Trumps name because, as he said she commented, "I just couldn't vote for that woman!"

I haven't talked to him this time but I wouldn't doubt that she did the same thing with Kamala. Maybe not, but the point is that even with left leaning women, there is some deep seated misogyny in this country. I don't know how to combat that, I just know that it's a thing.

[helpisontheway]

91. No. Didn't she see what happened to Hillary when she ran again?

We ended up with that @sshole as president. U.S. citizens will not support a black womanly for president. There are too many racists that will not vote for a black person. And there are too many people that do not want a woman in charge. It is too dangerous to take a chance.

[LudwigPastorius]

92. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

We've got congressional seats we must win coming up.

[elleng]

94. RIDICULOUS Trump Mandate Claim--DEBUNKED!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132250416

[Norbert]

95. Not trying to be sexist but she won't win

because she is a woman. I have voted for every ticket that had a woman on it, with the exception of McCain/Palin. The United States is too hung up on sex and are not UK, India, Germany and Israel.

[Blue_Tires]

97. Politico is trying really hard to stir the shit

[Mountainguy]

98. We need a candidate from a state that doesn't touch the ocean.

[Raine]

99. NO .. she dropped out of the primary here in Ca before we even had it

she didn't have the votes and she knew it.

[ecstatic]

104. Has a former nominee ever received a second chance in our party?

I don't think it will work. And of course Democrats have taken all the wrong lessons from 2024 so I wouldn't waste time on it. Save yourself the time and heartache, like Hillary did.

[Dennis Donovan]

105. William Jennings Bryan ran 3 x

Lost each time. Helluva speaker, though.

[Polybius]

110. Adlai Stevenson was the Democratic nominee in 1952 and 1956

Both times he ran against Dwight Eisenhower.

[Renew Deal]

111. Governor would be great

She's young enough where she can do that and run for president again in the future