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babylonsister

(172,815 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 09:40 AM Nov 2024

Shoulda Thought Of That Earlier

https://digbysblog.net/2024/11/25/shoulda-thought-of-that-earlier/

Shoulda Thought Of That Earlier
Published by digby on November 25, 2024



This is what happens when people think politics is just another Reality TV Show and they were just voting someone off the island.

I don’t know who people think will be compelled to do these jobs that nobody wants to do. But these are the same people who think slavery was no biggie so perhaps prison labor? What else can they do? Otherwise, wages are going to have to go up if there’s a labor shortage. That’s how this works. Housing costs are already too high for most people.

Good plan, Republicans. Excellent.
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sop

(19,812 posts)
2. Trump's deportation goons will only be deployed in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, not the red states.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 09:46 AM
Nov 2024

tanyev

(49,929 posts)
3. Farmers have also gotten worried about the leopards.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 09:55 AM
Nov 2024

US farm groups want Trump to spare their workers from deportation
Source: reuters

WASHINGTON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - U.S. farm industry groups want President-elect Donald Trump to spare their sector from his promise of mass deportations, which could upend a food supply chain heavily dependent on immigrants in the United States illegally.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143346360

lark

(26,136 posts)
4. They can't compel people to do a good job at stuff they don't want to do.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:27 AM
Nov 2024

It will be like in AL, where they deported so many workers that crops were rotting in the field. They could not get people to take on the jobs the undocumented did previously = no one would do it! It will be exactly the same. There will be serious shortages in construction and the food that is available will be a lot less in volume and it will cost a lot more. People will get a lot more sick and lots will die. I just hope us sane ones can continue to take care of ourselves and they don't steal that as well, but that is not a given.

Farmer-Rick

(12,845 posts)
11. The US has a legal seasonal, foreign migrant, farm and food processing workers
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:08 PM
Nov 2024

The immigrants are brought in legally. Corporations use them all the time in very large numbers. At a minimum there are about a million workers and their families brought in to work in just the fields and slaughter houses in the US. They go from crop to crop, state to state, picking fruits and vegetables, working in slaughterhouses, warehouses and feed lots as the work comes into season.

Unless they end these programs such as H-1B and H-2A visas. The immigrants will still be here working jobs at wages lower than US minimum wage. Amazon, Google, Apple, Walmart and Tyson would go bankrupt if they stopped bringing into the US desperate people to work for pennies.

aggiesal

(10,996 posts)
7. Construction is not one of those jobs that nobody wants to do ...
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 2024

It's one of those jobs that the construction industry doesn't want to pay a living wage, which includes increase pay, benefits like health care, sick time, vacations & administrating retirement programs. All of which the construction industry wants nothing to do with.
Once the construction industry decides to pay the living wage these jobs deserve, we will see all kinds of people applying for these jobs, but prices for construction will be too expensive, which expense is now passed to the consumer.

BradBo

(1,078 posts)
8. Prisoners will refuse to work unless you whip them, then they will work.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 2024

Cool Hand Luke, awesome.The good old days just like MAGA keeps talking about.

Rightstopper

(16 posts)
10. Democratic congress members need to act soon
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:00 PM
Nov 2024

All democratic members need to demand mass deportation must begin with state with longest border with Mexico, it makes the most financial sense it is closest to ship them

patphil

(9,323 posts)
12. I suspect the Trump government will issue temporary work visa's to fill those jobs.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:12 PM
Nov 2024

This will allow aliens to temporarily enter the country to work at the same jobs they may have had before, but without some of the benefits they used to have.
Probably no family will accompany them. They'll work for less, and working conditions may be worse (OSHA is going away).
Employer won't have to pay into Social Security, or any health care, or retirement funds.
And, best of all, these temporary workers will be subject to deportation at any time.
The biggest difference will be that none of these workers will ever be allowed to become citizens.
So, the nation will get all the brown and black people they need to fill those low end jobs without any chance they'll ever become voters.
This semi-slavery situation is a white supremacist's wet dream.

dflprincess

(29,455 posts)
13. With his 25% tariff on Canadian lumber there won't be mucn construction happening
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:33 PM
Nov 2024

Hope they're happy.

Tesha

(21,178 posts)
15. The For-Profit Prison Industry!
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:47 PM
Nov 2024

Round up all questionable persons and sell their labor for construction and farming jobs.

Come on, who really missed this great opportunity??

Bluetus

(3,260 posts)
16. This post misses the point
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 01:01 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2024, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Everything Trump does is malicious, either to punish his perceived enemies or to extract an extortion payment. He will use this "mandate" transactionally, not uniformly. He is already planning to hit SoCal hard because they are all his enemies.

In Texas, he doesn't have a lot of enemies, but there are plenty of people he can extort. That's what he will do there. He doesn't really care about deporting people from Texas, but he will threaten that and demand tribute payments from ranchers, construction firms, health care companies and anybody else that can't survive without the undocumented labor.

"I'm sorry to hear you are looking at a labor shortage. You know, a contribution to my PAC might get some attention to authorize 1000 work visas."

It is all transactional. We need to understand that ourselves before we can explain it to everyone else.

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