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global1

(26,507 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 05:50 PM Nov 2024

I'm Looking For Some Financial Strategies To Protect My Retirement Funds Before Tr**p Takes Office.....

What are the financial guys saying about Tr**p proofing your retirement money?

I was looking forward to a Harris win. Tr**p winning took me by surprise as I couldn't believe that the American Electorate would be that stupid to re-elect this guy.

I thought I could experience a sigh of relief that Tr**p wouldn't be around to loot the American treasury as well as my money.

So if anyone has talked to their financial guys/gals and have come away with some good financial advice for the next four years - I'd like to hear it.

If some of you already have taken measures to protect your money - can you pass along some of your strategies. Thanks in advance!!!

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I'm Looking For Some Financial Strategies To Protect My Retirement Funds Before Tr**p Takes Office..... (Original Post) global1 Nov 2024 OP
I have not heard a thing liberal N proud Nov 2024 #1
The Guy I Talked To Didn't Seem Much Concerned Either.... global1 Nov 2024 #4
Not giving financial advice, just making an observation Mike 03 Nov 2024 #13
That's where I already was, being extremely risk averse in any circumstances Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #26
I'd also like some advice. I protected my retirement in 2008 because I pulled everything out of the stock market before rainin Nov 2024 #2
Congratulations on your 2008 move! Trust_Reality Nov 2024 #9
My current strategy Sympthsical Nov 2024 #3
Take it all out and bury in your backyard in a coffee can MichMan Nov 2024 #5
I Did The Same As You Did In 2009, 2017, 2020 - But Somehow This Time It Seems Different..... global1 Nov 2024 #19
I'm retired. I need my savings. I can do with a few years of small interest increases, but I can't Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #22
I am mostly cash. Have some bonds, some stocks. cachukis Nov 2024 #6
The Heritage Foundation wrote the banking segment of P2025 Arazi Nov 2024 #8
This is extremely terrifying Mike 03 Nov 2024 #14
If they cancel that, the run on banks will destroy cachukis Nov 2024 #17
Then it's the mattress. cachukis Nov 2024 #16
For the moment. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #23
The coming inflation wave may eat deeply into your cash stash..... lastlib Nov 2024 #32
Sounds like a good idea. cachukis Nov 2024 #34
If trump tanks economy, the wealthy will hurt too. For that reason alone, I think they will reign trump in Silent Type Nov 2024 #7
You'd think. Mike 03 Nov 2024 #15
The Wealthy Are In A Position To Ride Out The Roughest Of Financial Sitiuations.... global1 Nov 2024 #20
What good would riding it out do, if on the other side several hundred million citizens don't have money to Silent Type Nov 2024 #21
The Wealthy don't worry about poor Americans not buying their products. haele Nov 2024 #28
I guess they wouldn't like hyperinflation any more than anyone else would, Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #29
I spoke with my advisor (very in line with my politics) about 3 weeks ago. Asked him to move about sinkingfeeling Nov 2024 #10
Where are you planning to go? phylny Nov 2024 #11
It's up for debate between two very different countries. I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each. One sinkingfeeling Nov 2024 #12
Keep us posted. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #25
Spoke to my guy shortly after the election Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #18
Investing gf's money into Trump businesses keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #24
I don't give advice to anyone about anything... anciano Nov 2024 #27
Break it up and put them in CDs Bluethroughu Nov 2024 #30
I think the republicans will dump trump as quick as they can. Turbineguy Nov 2024 #31
Here's what I'm planning on doing. bif Nov 2024 #33

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
1. I have not heard a thing
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 05:53 PM
Nov 2024

Met with our advisor before the election and he didn’t seem concerned. But then maybe that’s concerning in itself.

I am 65 and scared!

global1

(26,507 posts)
4. The Guy I Talked To Didn't Seem Much Concerned Either....
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 2024

I said that's because Biden is still our President.

I said to him all bets were off when Tr**p takes office. He still didn't seem all that concerned. I said to him - you're 64 y/o. I'm 76. I believe it is more critical for me to protect my funds. At 64 y/o - you will have more time to recover if our economy tanks.

I couldn't tell if he was a Tr**per or he's just being conservative.

Up until this time - I've had a lot of confidence in him. His attitude this time made me worry. That's why I'm here asking this question.

I'd like to trust him - but Tr**p is unlike anyone else that has ever held the office of president.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
13. Not giving financial advice, just making an observation
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:10 PM
Nov 2024

It seems to me like a good financial advisor would take a risk-averse approach with a person in your position, positioning you more in fixed income instruments (i.e., bonds) and lightening up on equities. It's also never a bad thing to raise cash, at least in the short term, if you are worried about a crash in equities.

Maybe cross-post this in the Finance and Investing forum too?

Susan Calvin

(2,438 posts)
26. That's where I already was, being extremely risk averse in any circumstances
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:38 PM
Nov 2024

I don't know whether to expect hyperinflation or another Great Depression. Right now it's kind of looking like hyperinflation followed by a crash, but what do I know? Very little.

rainin

(3,246 posts)
2. I'd also like some advice. I protected my retirement in 2008 because I pulled everything out of the stock market before
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 05:59 PM
Nov 2024

it crashed. This scenario seems so much more volatile and uncertain. I don't know where to put it to keep it safe. I don't know if I should hold on to my house or move up our sell date and liquidate in case housing prices are going to fall. I'd love to sell high if I can. I don't know where to turn for sound advice

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
9. Congratulations on your 2008 move!
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:53 PM
Nov 2024

You bucked the common wisdom which is to ride it out, perhaps making a few modest changes to your portfolio. You made a very decisive move. Glad it worked, timing, etc.

I am definitely not a financial advisor, just a fairly well read citizen of advanced age, and therefore, experience.

I suggest minimizing debt.
Keep your car(s) in good condition.
If you own a house, keep it in good condition.
Eat wisely, keep you body in good condition.
Don't waste money on foolish things like alcohol and fireworks.
Save regularly even if it is a tiny amount per month.
Keep calm and try to function wisely.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
5. Take it all out and bury in your backyard in a coffee can
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:12 PM
Nov 2024


I thought everyone got out of investments in 2017 anyway, or that's at least what people said they were going to do. This is the last place I would take investment advice from.

I'm doing the same thing with mine I did in 2009, 2017, and 2020. Just leaving it alone

global1

(26,507 posts)
19. I Did The Same As You Did In 2009, 2017, 2020 - But Somehow This Time It Seems Different.....
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:32 PM
Nov 2024

I did so because we still were the same USA through that time period.

Now we seem to be creeping away from a Democracy. We have a regime in the WH that seems intent on destroying all that so many worked so hard to achieve.

Maybe if I was younger now - I would just leave things alone this time as well.

However, I just don't trust this situation now. I sure as hell don't trust Tr**p.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
22. I'm retired. I need my savings. I can do with a few years of small interest increases, but I can't
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:06 PM
Nov 2024

do with losing it.

I had most in the S&P. I took a lot out and put it into CDs. Much lower interest, but I can sleep at night. There's still some in the S&P, but not a lot.

I'm considering getting some Canadian CDs, just in case things go really wrong.

cachukis

(3,937 posts)
6. I am mostly cash. Have some bonds, some stocks.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:16 PM
Nov 2024

Some real estate.
Drawing down IRA.
We still have FDIC.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
8. The Heritage Foundation wrote the banking segment of P2025
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:42 PM
Nov 2024

They proposed eliminating the FDIC insurance program entirely in 2017.

In Project 2025 they didn’t explicitly call for the elimination of the FDIC (which would have caused a massive reaction) but stated that they believe all banking regulations should be eliminated and allow “market discipline” to “protect” banking customers.

I wouldn’t bank on the FDIC being in place much longer

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
14. This is extremely terrifying
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:13 PM
Nov 2024

I've heard this too. Part of he cannot believe that is even being discussed "hypothetically."

When I tried to tell a family member about this, it's almost like she couldn't even take it in. I don't think it made it from her ears to her brain.

lastlib

(28,269 posts)
32. The coming inflation wave may eat deeply into your cash stash.....
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:06 PM
Nov 2024

I would look at some short- to mid-term fixed income--seems to me to be the best bet for price stability and income. I'd even consider mixing in some high-quality foreign bonds, in case the US debt market goes bad.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. If trump tanks economy, the wealthy will hurt too. For that reason alone, I think they will reign trump in
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:28 PM
Nov 2024

if he gets to nutz. But who knows.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
15. You'd think.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:16 PM
Nov 2024

But there are people who know how to make a lot of money in a downturn, shorting stocks or betting huge sums on weird things like minute changes in currency valuations. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Warren Buffet recently sold a lot of stock to raise cash.

global1

(26,507 posts)
20. The Wealthy Are In A Position To Ride Out The Roughest Of Financial Sitiuations....
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:45 PM
Nov 2024

Especially the wealthy of today. They have a big cushion that they can fall back on.

They can also benefit of cherry picking at all the foreclosures and defaults we commoners will encounter. They can ride out many a storm.

I don't see the billionaires jumping from buildings as many in the financial markets did back during the depression.

I heard something the other day - that in our lifetimes - when a Repug was president - we always suffered a recession. It was the Dems that dragged us out of the recession and got us back to a more even keel.

The Biden Administration prevented a recession. Things seemed to be going in the right direction. I was so hopeful Harris would win and I could find some relief from all the worry.

I fear Tr**p and Company are going to loot our treasury. All signs - if Tr**p does what he told us he'd do - puts him on that trajectory. Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation scare the hell out of me.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
21. What good would riding it out do, if on the other side several hundred million citizens don't have money to
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:01 PM
Nov 2024

buy the crap the wealthy make. They aren't going to make enough money trading among themselves.

I was hopeful Harris would win too, but she did not.

haele

(15,402 posts)
28. The Wealthy don't worry about poor Americans not buying their products.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:42 PM
Nov 2024

They've gotten to the point where their particular profit machines are uncoupled from the Main Street economy.
They won't feel a pinch until the US Treasury is empty.
By that time, they think they'll be able to move on to some other developed country and be in the process of sucking their resources.
This current crop thinks that once they're ded, it won't really matter. It's all about fictitious bootstraps in their minds. Their nepo grandkids will supposedly be able to figure it all out after they're gone, because of smart genes, or something.

The wealthy really think they're above it all.

Haele

Susan Calvin

(2,438 posts)
29. I guess they wouldn't like hyperinflation any more than anyone else would,
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:43 PM
Nov 2024

But if there were a crash they would just scoop up assets like they did in 2007.

sinkingfeeling

(57,835 posts)
10. I spoke with my advisor (very in line with my politics) about 3 weeks ago. Asked him to move about
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 06:55 PM
Nov 2024

$500K into a money market account by January for quick, ease access. Told him I would be leaving the country as soon as I can dispose of my house, cars, and furnishings and that we would have to discuss further whether to keep things in US or not.

sinkingfeeling

(57,835 posts)
12. It's up for debate between two very different countries. I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each. One
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:02 PM
Nov 2024

I know well, but I haven't ever been to the other. I was forced to send off my passport for renewal, so still have a few weeks before I can travel to visit choice #2.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,240 posts)
18. Spoke to my guy shortly after the election
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:29 PM
Nov 2024

He said folks are expecting the economy to continue to run hot for awhile longer, even if tariffs are implemented in January.

He doesn’t expect any major correction until mid 2025. This record breaking Bidenomics economy will be due for a 10-15% correction, even if Harris had been elected.

Of course, with a Trump administration, expect the unexpected, but timing the market is a fool’s errand.

It’s best to have a balanced, diversified portfolio. Our advisor has guided us through the crashes of 1987, 2001, 2008, and COVID, and each time, our portfolio bounced back quicker than the market, and went on to make impressive gains in the long run.

We never did anything drastic like move all our holdings to cash, or anything like that.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
24. Investing gf's money into Trump businesses
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:17 PM
Nov 2024

Investing gf's money into Trump businesses.
Will be sending this to girlfriend's family. She is getting vascular dementia so I handle her bills and such. Her daughter is not happy that I have access to much of her money.
Her entire family is solid Trumpers.
.
_______'s investments are not doing that well. I'm going to have her cash out all of her stocks, money market accounts, and other investments. Her house has a huge amount of equity for a home loan.
Put the money into a sure thing, a golden opportunity, all from a known, successful businessman, Donald J Trump.
It is wise to diversify, so half will go to his stock, DJT, and half to his crypto currency. The stock is down slightly so it is a good opportunity before he brings it back up with his business acumen.
His crypto currency will be partially managed/advised by his three capable sons... Looking forward to great returns from a brilliant businessman with no risk of downside.
It's no wonder people have such great faith in him.

==============================================

Her brother believed it. Her daughter called me just before midnight. She was so worried it might be true.
Daughter so Trumpian that she would not acknowledge Trump's dishonesty.
Said Trump is a millionaire and does not need Mom's money.

Yeah..... "millionaire".

anciano

(2,256 posts)
27. I don't give advice to anyone about anything...
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:41 PM
Nov 2024

but I will share my personal preference. I always invest in whatever will give me a peaceful night's sleep.
Good luck and best wishes.

Turbineguy

(40,076 posts)
31. I think the republicans will dump trump as quick as they can.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 09:47 PM
Nov 2024

His voters want an idiot for president, but the Big Money does not.

bif

(27,000 posts)
33. Here's what I'm planning on doing.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:13 PM
Nov 2024

I just turned 70 and I have a fair amount of money. 2/3 of it is in Vanguard Mutual Funds and 1/3 is in stocks. I'm planning on hanging in there for at least 6 months. If it starts looking bad, I'll probably put 1/3 to 1/2 in Money Market Funds. They're paying around 4.5% in interest. I think the economy will be okay for a while, thanks to President Biden.

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