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Malcolm X Quote
He said it what? 50 Years ago. Nothing has changed in America.
So when we say we are taking a break: listen to us. Don't wink wink and nudge nudge: "You aren't REALLY going to do that are you?"
Yes I am. I am 51 years of age, and I can't be manipulated. That's why I didn't fall for Trumps bullshit the first time. We told all y'all.
We said it again in 2020.
We said it again in 2024.
I know my own mind, as do ALL of the black women who intend to hand the Democratic Party over to the Dominant Culture.
I will not be a martyr for a country that does NOT respect me.
Enjoy!
milestogo
(23,082 posts)I don't even want to quote the things he has said they are so evil.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)But he SAW us.
hotellanai1986
(163 posts)A man of his time and era. He was also closely mentored by Elijah Muhammad (please research that man if you think Malcolm X was "profoundly sexist)." I don't think important figures of the past should get a pass, quite the opposite. They should be viewed in their entirety and in the era they were in. Lincoln was a racist but Woodrow Wilson was worse. Andrew Jackson made Wilson look like a choirboy. Reagan was racist (research the place where he initially announced his campaign). Ethel Kennedy's recent candid bio shocked me (stupidly, I will admit) since she had Black maids (it made Bobby look good that he was OPEN TO hiring "The Coloreds" and they could pay the maids much less than standard wages) and often viciously derided these adult experienced women using that old evil racial epithet as a frequent cudgel. Let's not talk about JFK or Johnson (yes, sexist also). However, given his past of re-categorizing his thoughts to be outdated, many thought Malcolm X knew how to sincerely adapt (and learn) with the times. Had he been allowed to live (shout out to J. Edgar Hoover, a self-hating cretin), it is thought that Malcolm would have embraced Women's Rights for instance. The Civil Rights Movement leaders wanted women in the background. There were many books written about the frustration of women to be heard. I will be happy when the complete and nuanced History of America is told -the good, bad and in-between.
milestogo
(23,082 posts)as practice for raping white women.
That's about the most sexist thing I've ever heard, and there is no "nuance" that can make it sound any less heinous.
David Boyle
(732 posts)Feel free to look into it.
Kingofalldems
(40,278 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)David Boyle
(732 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)That statement is just - ugh. It's not true.
One should never Undervalue, Underestimate, Or Marginalize Black folks and assume we do not know the history of the first reckoning, key players, and the theories/beliefs those key people opined about.
David Boyle
(732 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Can we also talk about the enslavers in the Founding Fathers?
And their racist wives (Looking at you Martha).
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)He was schtupping her half sister while they were married but she was a slave so it didnt matter.
Sally Hemings.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)She was not a nice person.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)And how you feel if someone married you for your money.
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)Blasphemer
(3,623 posts)I am focusing my energy doing good works outside of the U.S. This country does not deserve my efforts.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)My friends, my people and key allies (LGBTQI and Jewish Communities). I can do that locally. I can reach out and open a door to my home for someone I'm terrified for.
But I can't do more than that.
Social Issues and Democracy that black women centered in their votes this election were not enough. And I can't be a fake and pretend that those things don't matter just to win elections.
It was a smack in our faces.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)Time for others to step up to the plate.
I don't think people realize black women were some of the strong glue holding the Dem party together. And brought amazing tireless energy, talent and organization.
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)The very first phone call to the Progress channel on SiriusXM that awful night, after Trump was declared to be the winner, was a Black woman saying exactly this. She was on the verge of tears. She was SO done with this. She said it was time for her to look after herself. She sounded absolutely broken. And I knew she was speaking for so many more Black women who just had enough.
Since that day I've heard dozens more just like it.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)You will hear the joy in letting go!
Celerity
(54,407 posts)24:30 onward
On April 27th in Los Angeles California, two Muslim brothers are questioned by Los Angeles police while unloading suits from a car in front of their mosque. A scuffle breaks out as members of the Nation of Islam leave the mosque to aid their brothers and more officers arrive on the scene ( approximately 75 officers) leads to gunfire seven members of the Nation of Islam are wounded and one man Ronald Stokes, the Mosque Secretary, is killed by police. This incident leads to the speech you are about to hear which also helped push Malcolm into the national spotlight.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)all the glory of the first black president - yet there hasn't been a female president and we are OVER HALF THE POPULATION
misogyny way overpowers racism, and women of color experience BOTH
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)Not misogyny because the majority of white women voted against their interests to put a vile creature who doesnt respect them in office.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)LOTS of POC are sexist - heck, lots of WOMEN are sexist
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)Skittles
(171,710 posts)DONE HERE
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)Racism is worse, your neighbors can call the cops on you and you have to explain your presence in your neighborhood , black faces in white spaces could be a death sentence, your 5 year old comes home and says her little white friend cant play with her because shes black and you try to explain racism to her , shes a child . I could go on but white women dont have to worry about this nonsense.
Every day you decide how to handle micro aggressions that white women dont have to face.
BumRushDaShow
(169,756 posts)and pass on the knowledge and survival skills.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)They have never seen a real chain gang, to them it is ancient history and has no bearing on their lives .
We can no longer have black history taught because a white child might feel bad.
Stargleamer
(2,728 posts)
enigmania
(457 posts)We (particularly white men such as myself), could learn a lot from Black women.
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)However, that might not be literally true---
if you take native-American women into consideration---
AA women were at least respected as "property",
but native-Americans were arguably considered
"less human" than slaves
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Centering black women.
I'm a black woman - centering black women.
Am I not allowed to care for myself?
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)I was not arguing against that point of the OP,
just bringing up a peripheral point
all women suffer regardless of race,
but all those who are not white, suffer more
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)It's an observation of The92Percent on threads.
I guess Indigenous women are going to hang back the next four years. Do you know?
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)while law enforcement investigates more important 'missing persons'..... yeah.
What I was trying to say is I agree that black women have suffered greatly throughout US history,
but they at least had value as "property" to some, mostly southern slave-holders---
while native American women had no such value.
Black women and black women slaves were indeed murdered and raped--
but not "systematically" so. Native-American women WERE systematically murdered,
along with their children and their husbands and families-- because they had no economic value
to practically any of the white Americans...
All courtesy of the United States Army,
US states militia
and practically anyone else
who cared to pick up a gun and kill "indians"
YES, African-American women have been considered almost as 'worthless'
as Native-American women in US history---
but not quite, IMHO.
Regardless, it is equally wrong in both cases.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Okay - I'll play.
How about the indigenous people that enslaved Black Americans?
Jack Valentino
(5,011 posts)and extremely few in number---
but just enough that someone could say
"but how about"
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)My dad's paternal great great Grandmother was an enslaved Seminole.
His maternal great Grandmother was a Cherokee Indian who married a Scots Irish immigrant. Her father was what we call a "Medicine man" Their daughter, my great grandmother married a black immigrant Physician from the UK. Between 1890 and 1900 - her parents changed on the census from White and Indian to black . . . in Mississippi.
My grandmother on top of being a Spelman educated teacher, had the healing tradition passed down to her. She practiced midwifery to the black community, and the Cherokee and Seminole in her area of Alabama.
None of my Cherokee or Seminole ancestors practiced America's original sin.
Let me introduce you to Chief John Ross. He lead the charge:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholders-complicate-trail-tears-narrative-180968339/
And this is why I give the Buffalo Soldiers grace.
Never under value, under estimate, or assume you are dealing with an uneducated individual.
I can't be shoved into the sunken place by anyone.
RandySF
(84,279 posts)were willing to lose everything to keep a Black woman out of the White House.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)I believe them.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,304 posts)And forget about them when they achieve them. White women were the prime beneficiaries of affirmative action. The suffragette movement , they kicked black women to the curb before the protests started. The backed their men when black people wanted equality and their anger and hatred was painted on their faces.
hotellanai1986
(163 posts)White women are the prime beneficiaries of DEI - hands down. I sometimes wonder if affirmative action and DEI later on was concocted (yes, I used that word) to insure that the only children (daughters) of wealthy White men could assume positions of power easily without having to rush and marry some idiot just for him to ruin what Daddy and Granddaddy built. Wrapping the concept of inclusion around Black people just made their plan easier to digest at the time (late 60s and 70s). I just laugh at all of the outrage about Affirmative Action and DEI giving "the Blacks" (as TSF spits out) all of this largesse when C suites are loaded with White women and South Asians of both sexes.
What is that saying again? The more things change...
B.See
(8,502 posts)This time they could not save America from itself. Because this time there were a few too many women hating bstrds.
JI7
(93,616 posts)as working class neglected by those in power.
But notice that many of the women that have died becsuse of restrictions on reproductive rights have been black women.
Kamala Harris actually worked at McDonald's but the shit had a photo op and certain people were impressed.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)All of it. Thank you.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)ananda
(35,145 posts)...
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)There are folks here who believe a post like this is divisive.
Really connect on the ground in your community.
People will be hungry and cold during this Regime. Women will need help. If someone becomes collateral damage of the Magats that voted for Harris, let them grab hold of your hand a pull them up.
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)Black women still keep going, keeping it moving, remain resilient and don't roll over in bed crying about it. And.... Still have the highest self image among all women. Google it. Black women are the original women of Earth.
brush
(61,033 posts)backing of the Democratic Party in the 90+ percentile range, the highest of any demographic, has contributed much to the Dem's successes. We Black men follow with the next highest percentile range of demographic groups in the high 80s.
Other demographic groups who let us and the party down shall remain nameless in this post but we all know who they are.
Backing that lying traitor-coup attempter, convicted criminal with rapidly declining mental acuity is DISGRACEFUL.