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JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:40 PM Nov 2024

"The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. "

Malcolm X Quote

“The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman. The most neglected person in America is the Black woman.”


He said it what? 50 Years ago. Nothing has changed in America.

So when we say we are taking a break: listen to us. Don't wink wink and nudge nudge: "You aren't REALLY going to do that are you?"

Yes I am. I am 51 years of age, and I can't be manipulated. That's why I didn't fall for Trumps bullshit the first time. We told all y'all.

We said it again in 2020.

We said it again in 2024.

I know my own mind, as do ALL of the black women who intend to hand the Democratic Party over to the Dominant Culture.

I will not be a martyr for a country that does NOT respect me.

I'll be over here cheering folks on from the sidelines.

Enjoy!

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"The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. " (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 OP
Malcolm X was profoundly sexist. milestogo Nov 2024 #1
Oh I know JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #4
Malcolm X, Born in 1925, Was hotellanai1986 Nov 2024 #8
Malcolm X recommended that black men should rape black women milestogo Nov 2024 #10
Was that actually Eldridge Cleaver? David Boyle Nov 2024 #14
It was. Kingofalldems Nov 2024 #15
Yep! JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #18
Thanks David Boyle Nov 2024 #35
That's a right wing talking point against Malcolm X JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #17
Thanks for the link etc. David Boyle Nov 2024 #36
So much truth JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #22
If you are talking about Martha Jefferson Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #31
Washington JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #33
They were the entitled women of their time. Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #39
Oh, I Remember hearing soon after Where Ray-gun made his first campaign appearance! Horrific! electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #26
Right there with you sis! Blasphemer Nov 2024 #2
I will take care of my family JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #5
I don't blame you. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #3
I don't blame you either Mike 03 Nov 2024 #6
Urban Radio JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #19
that quote is from his May 20th, 1962 speech on police brutality, given in Los Angeles, California Celerity Nov 2024 #7
yup Skittles Nov 2024 #9
Idk for sure...but I do remember Rep Shirely Chisolm saying that. electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #23
Racism is the most potent force in America Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #46
I absolutely disagree Skittles Nov 2024 #50
You have the privilege of seeing it that way. Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #51
omfg Skittles Nov 2024 #54
If you are a woman of color sexism is a problem Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #55
We just have to remember to mentor the next generation BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #11
They have no concept of Jim Crow Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #47
White people in diners are interviewed, never Black women Stargleamer Nov 2024 #12
I've said this many times: enigmania Nov 2024 #13
Only for about the last 405 years.... Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #16
He was a black man JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #20
of course you are Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #21
I just can't with this JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #24
Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #25
It's not for you to understand JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #28
Hanging back and hoping they don't just "silently disappear" Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #30
But what about . . .. JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #37
They were misguided and only trying to save themselves---- Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #41
No they weren't JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #43
And too many voters RandySF Nov 2024 #27
They've shown me who they are JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #29
They use black womens labor to reach their goals Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #32
I Salute Your Post And Add This... hotellanai1986 Nov 2024 #34
...and, the most underappreciated. B.See Nov 2024 #38
How did black women come to be seen as elitist while white men JI7 Nov 2024 #40
On point! JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #44
Co-signed Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #42
Thank you JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #45
Agree. And all other women aren't far behind. ananda Nov 2024 #48
Shhh - be careful JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #49
And yet Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #52
I'm a Black man and respect Black women greatly. Your work and staunch... brush Nov 2024 #53
Thank you brush JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #56

milestogo

(23,082 posts)
1. Malcolm X was profoundly sexist.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:45 PM
Nov 2024

I don't even want to quote the things he has said they are so evil.

hotellanai1986

(163 posts)
8. Malcolm X, Born in 1925, Was
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:19 PM
Nov 2024

A man of his time and era. He was also closely mentored by Elijah Muhammad (please research that man if you think Malcolm X was "profoundly sexist)." I don't think important figures of the past should get a pass, quite the opposite. They should be viewed in their entirety and in the era they were in. Lincoln was a racist but Woodrow Wilson was worse. Andrew Jackson made Wilson look like a choirboy. Reagan was racist (research the place where he initially announced his campaign). Ethel Kennedy's recent candid bio shocked me (stupidly, I will admit) since she had Black maids (it made Bobby look good that he was OPEN TO hiring "The Coloreds" and they could pay the maids much less than standard wages) and often viciously derided these adult experienced women using that old evil racial epithet as a frequent cudgel. Let's not talk about JFK or Johnson (yes, sexist also). However, given his past of re-categorizing his thoughts to be outdated, many thought Malcolm X knew how to sincerely adapt (and learn) with the times. Had he been allowed to live (shout out to J. Edgar Hoover, a self-hating cretin), it is thought that Malcolm would have embraced Women's Rights for instance. The Civil Rights Movement leaders wanted women in the background. There were many books written about the frustration of women to be heard. I will be happy when the complete and nuanced History of America is told -the good, bad and in-between.

milestogo

(23,082 posts)
10. Malcolm X recommended that black men should rape black women
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:33 PM
Nov 2024

as practice for raping white women.

That's about the most sexist thing I've ever heard, and there is no "nuance" that can make it sound any less heinous.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
17. That's a right wing talking point against Malcolm X
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:40 PM
Nov 2024
https://www.biography.com/authors-writers/eldridge-cleaver

During his incarceration, Cleaver began to develop his own political philosophy. After his release in 1957, he raped an unknown number of women, both black and white. He felt that his rapes of white women were "insurrectionary" rapes, justified by what African Americans had suffered under a system dominated by whites.



That statement is just - ugh. It's not true.

One should never Undervalue, Underestimate, Or Marginalize Black folks and assume we do not know the history of the first reckoning, key players, and the theories/beliefs those key people opined about.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
22. So much truth
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:48 PM
Nov 2024


Can we also talk about the enslavers in the Founding Fathers?

And their racist wives (Looking at you Martha).

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
31. If you are talking about Martha Jefferson
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:48 AM
Nov 2024

He was schtupping her half sister while they were married but she was a slave so it didn’t matter.
Sally Hemings.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
39. They were the entitled women of their time.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 01:28 AM
Nov 2024

And how you feel if someone married you for your money.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
26. Oh, I Remember hearing soon after Where Ray-gun made his first campaign appearance! Horrific!
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:07 AM
Nov 2024
Very disappointed about Ethel Kennedy.

Blasphemer

(3,623 posts)
2. Right there with you sis!
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:45 PM
Nov 2024

I am focusing my energy doing good works outside of the U.S. This country does not deserve my efforts.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
5. I will take care of my family
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 2024

My friends, my people and key allies (LGBTQI and Jewish Communities). I can do that locally. I can reach out and open a door to my home for someone I'm terrified for.

But I can't do more than that.

Social Issues and Democracy that black women centered in their votes this election were not enough. And I can't be a fake and pretend that those things don't matter just to win elections.

It was a smack in our faces.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
3. I don't blame you.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 07:47 PM
Nov 2024

Time for others to step up to the plate.

I don't think people realize black women were some of the strong glue holding the Dem party together. And brought amazing tireless energy, talent and organization.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
6. I don't blame you either
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:00 PM
Nov 2024

The very first phone call to the Progress channel on SiriusXM that awful night, after Trump was declared to be the winner, was a Black woman saying exactly this. She was on the verge of tears. She was SO done with this. She said it was time for her to look after herself. She sounded absolutely broken. And I knew she was speaking for so many more Black women who just had enough.

Since that day I've heard dozens more just like it.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
7. that quote is from his May 20th, 1962 speech on police brutality, given in Los Angeles, California
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:03 PM
Nov 2024

24:30 onward



On April 27th in Los Angeles California, two Muslim brothers are questioned by Los Angeles police while unloading suits from a car in front of their mosque. A scuffle breaks out as members of the Nation of Islam leave the mosque to aid their brothers and more officers arrive on the scene ( approximately 75 officers) leads to gunfire seven members of the Nation of Islam are wounded and one man Ronald Stokes, the Mosque Secretary, is killed by police. This incident leads to the speech you are about to hear which also helped push Malcolm into the national spotlight.

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
9. yup
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 08:30 PM
Nov 2024

all the glory of the first black president - yet there hasn't been a female president and we are OVER HALF THE POPULATION

misogyny way overpowers racism, and women of color experience BOTH

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
46. Racism is the most potent force in America
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

Not misogyny because the majority of white women voted against their interests to put a vile creature who doesn’t respect them in office.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
55. If you are a woman of color sexism is a problem
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:38 PM
Nov 2024

Racism is worse, your neighbors can call the cops on you and you have to explain your presence in your neighborhood , black faces in white spaces could be a death sentence, your 5 year old comes home and says her little white friend can’t play with her because she’s black and you try to explain racism to her , she’s a child . I could go on but white women don’t have to worry about this nonsense.
Every day you decide how to handle micro aggressions that white women don’t have to face.

BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
11. We just have to remember to mentor the next generation
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:08 PM
Nov 2024

and pass on the knowledge and survival skills.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
47. They have no concept of Jim Crow
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 2024

They have never seen a real chain gang, to them it is ancient history and has no bearing on their lives .
We can no longer have black history taught because a white child might feel bad.

enigmania

(457 posts)
13. I've said this many times:
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:39 PM
Nov 2024

We (particularly white men such as myself), could learn a lot from Black women.

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
16. Only for about the last 405 years....
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:33 PM
Nov 2024

However, that might not be literally true---
if you take native-American women into consideration---

AA women were at least respected as "property",
but native-Americans were arguably considered
"less human" than slaves

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
20. He was a black man
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:43 PM
Nov 2024

Centering black women.

I'm a black woman - centering black women.

Am I not allowed to care for myself?

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
21. of course you are
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:48 PM
Nov 2024

I was not arguing against that point of the OP,
just bringing up a peripheral point

all women suffer regardless of race,
but all those who are not white, suffer more

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
28. It's not for you to understand
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:10 AM
Nov 2024

It's an observation of The92Percent on threads.

I guess Indigenous women are going to hang back the next four years. Do you know?

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
30. Hanging back and hoping they don't just "silently disappear"
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:26 AM
Nov 2024

while law enforcement investigates more important 'missing persons'..... yeah.


What I was trying to say is I agree that black women have suffered greatly throughout US history,
but they at least had value as "property" to some, mostly southern slave-holders---
while native American women had no such value.

Black women and black women slaves were indeed murdered and raped--
but not "systematically" so. Native-American women WERE systematically murdered,
along with their children and their husbands and families-- because they had no economic value
to practically any of the white Americans...

All courtesy of the United States Army,
US states militia
and practically anyone else
who cared to pick up a gun and kill "indians"

YES, African-American women have been considered almost as 'worthless'
as Native-American women in US history---

but not quite, IMHO.

Regardless, it is equally wrong in both cases.





JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
37. But what about . . ..
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 01:20 AM
Nov 2024

Okay - I'll play.

How about the indigenous people that enslaved Black Americans?




Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
41. They were misguided and only trying to save themselves----
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 03:35 AM
Nov 2024

and extremely few in number---

but just enough that someone could say
"but how about"


JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
43. No they weren't
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 08:28 AM
Nov 2024

My dad's paternal great great Grandmother was an enslaved Seminole.

His maternal great Grandmother was a Cherokee Indian who married a Scots Irish immigrant. Her father was what we call a "Medicine man" Their daughter, my great grandmother married a black immigrant Physician from the UK. Between 1890 and 1900 - her parents changed on the census from White and Indian to black . . . in Mississippi.

My grandmother on top of being a Spelman educated teacher, had the healing tradition passed down to her. She practiced midwifery to the black community, and the Cherokee and Seminole in her area of Alabama.

None of my Cherokee or Seminole ancestors practiced America's original sin.

Let me introduce you to Chief John Ross. He lead the charge:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholders-complicate-trail-tears-narrative-180968339/

“Obviously,” Smith said, “the story should be, needs to be, that the enslaved black people and soon-to-be-exiled red people would join forces and defeat their oppressor.” But such was not the case—far from it. “The Five Civilized Tribes were deeply committed to slavery, established their own racialized black codes, immediately reestablished slavery when they arrived in Indian territory, rebuilt their nations with slave labor, crushed slave rebellions, and enthusiastically sided with the Confederacy in the Civil War.”



And this is why I give the Buffalo Soldiers grace.

Never under value, under estimate, or assume you are dealing with an uneducated individual.

I can't be shoved into the sunken place by anyone.

RandySF

(84,279 posts)
27. And too many voters
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:08 AM
Nov 2024

were willing to lose everything to keep a Black woman out of the White House.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,304 posts)
32. They use black womens labor to reach their goals
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 12:58 AM
Nov 2024

And forget about them when they achieve them. White women were the prime beneficiaries of affirmative action. The suffragette movement , they kicked black women to the curb before the protests started. The backed their men when black people wanted equality and their anger and hatred was painted on their faces.

hotellanai1986

(163 posts)
34. I Salute Your Post And Add This...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 01:17 AM
Nov 2024

White women are the prime beneficiaries of DEI - hands down. I sometimes wonder if affirmative action and DEI later on was concocted (yes, I used that word) to insure that the only children (daughters) of wealthy White men could assume positions of power easily without having to rush and marry some idiot just for him to ruin what Daddy and Granddaddy built. Wrapping the concept of inclusion around Black people just made their plan easier to digest at the time (late 60s and 70s). I just laugh at all of the outrage about Affirmative Action and DEI giving "the Blacks" (as TSF spits out) all of this largesse when C suites are loaded with White women and South Asians of both sexes.

What is that saying again? The more things change...

B.See

(8,502 posts)
38. ...and, the most underappreciated.
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 01:27 AM
Nov 2024

This time they could not save America from itself. Because this time there were a few too many women hating bstrds.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
40. How did black women come to be seen as elitist while white men
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 02:49 AM
Nov 2024

as working class neglected by those in power.

But notice that many of the women that have died becsuse of restrictions on reproductive rights have been black women.

Kamala Harris actually worked at McDonald's but the shit had a photo op and certain people were impressed.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
49. Shhh - be careful
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 11:59 AM
Nov 2024

There are folks here who believe a post like this is divisive.

Really connect on the ground in your community. People will be hungry and cold during this Regime. Women will need help. If someone becomes collateral damage of the Magats that voted for Harris, let them grab hold of your hand a pull them up.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
52. And yet
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 05:38 PM
Nov 2024

Black women still keep going, keeping it moving, remain resilient and don't roll over in bed crying about it. And.... Still have the highest self image among all women. Google it. Black women are the original women of Earth.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
53. I'm a Black man and respect Black women greatly. Your work and staunch...
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 05:46 PM
Nov 2024

backing of the Democratic Party in the 90+ percentile range, the highest of any demographic, has contributed much to the Dem's successes. We Black men follow with the next highest percentile range of demographic groups in the high 80s.

Other demographic groups who let us and the party down shall remain nameless in this post but we all know who they are.

Backing that lying traitor-coup attempter, convicted criminal with rapidly declining mental acuity is DISGRACEFUL.

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