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[ancianita]

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[Elessar Zappa]

1. K&R

[Fullduplexxx]

2. Yea he did a great job ...of ignoring trump ... garland is a disgrace

[Fullduplexxx]

7. Lol a link to him doing nothing about Trump. I think there's plenty of evidence to that

[Fullduplexxx]

12. I know what the fuck he did about trump, and it was nothing

[milestogo]

3. Its hard to link to nothing, but here goes.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

4. As if a link is all that matters.

What good is a link when he let Trump get away with it all?

[ancianita]

9. "What good is a link when he let Trump get away with it all?" Duly noted.

Throughout his 43 months you had your chance to be informed of the scope and magnitude of the DOJ's work under Garland. Yet here you are with nothing but a lame excuse.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

14. False

[obamanut2012]

16. Please don't insult other DUers you disagree with

[BeerBarrelPolka]

18. I

I alerted the post. I'm getting tired of what's happening on here.

[brush]

6. Hahahahahhaha! But Garland's massive fail in not prosecuting and jailing...

trump of staging a coup on J6 and dereliction of his duty and oath to defend the Constitution and the nation, actions we all saw on live TV, which is all the evidence he need to convict trump, and because of all that, trump being re-elected president and likely will become a fascist dictator who may suspend the Constitution and therefore it will be the last real justice of any kind that you'll see for years -- with Jan 6 convictions , AND many of the NON- Jan6 convictions pardoned by the
weaponizer-in-chief who'll occupy the kleptocratic White House....(the bold type above is from you OP).

Again, Garland's massive fail of not seeing to trump being prosecuted and jailed for J6 is the cause of all this.

The long list of DOJ actions is to be commended but THE MOST GRAVE THREAT TO THE NATION SINCE THE CIVIL WAR went undone by Federalist Society member Garland's reluctance to move on trump, or his apparent foot dragging or milquetoast-like nature...whatever it is, trump was not prosecuted.

Period.

[ancianita]

11. You repeat yourself ad nauseum. Duly noted.

[brush]

15. I intend to every time on of these ridiculous Garland apologist posts appear.

Duly note that.

[ancianita]

20. Big words you use, like "apologist," yet your fact free linkless case is angry screed.

Unlinked attacks are on Full Ignore. Duly note that.

[brush]

24. How about a line from an old western: We don't need no stinking links, we all saw trump's J6 crimes on live TV.

Or maybe you were out of the country didn't see them.

[GoreWon2000]

8. Garland dragged his feet on prosecuting Trump

Garland waited more than 1 year to start the Trump/Jan 6 investigation. He didn't really start it until after the House Jan 6 committee shamed him into it. I watched premier constitutional law professor Lawrence Tribe say pretty much this same thing on "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell" the other night. Garland's failure to act in time follows in the footsteps of the DOJ's failure to prosecute W's goons for organizing, financing and participating in the 2000 "Brooks Brother's" riot in Miami. Roger Stone was involved in both anti-democracy attacks.

[ancianita]

19. You've only been on DU for 11 months..

Have you ever once clicked on the DOJ site. Have you ever typed in Merrick Garland's name on this site. If you had you'd have seen more than this one example.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217611434

Any repeat Garland detractors here are on full ignore.

But for newcomers like you, here's

Attorney General Merrick Garland In Review:


GARLAND was confirmed 2 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup

Garland's #2 was confirmed by Congress 3 MONTHS after Biden -- Republican holdup;
then Lisa Monaco immediately operationalized the DOJ's eight major divisions.


Mar 10 2021: Merrick Garland confirmed as AG by Congress
Mar 11 2021: AG Garland assumes office

Apr 21 2021: Deputy AG Lisa O. Monaco assumes office

At that point Garland had already started on the Jan 6 investigation, so "delay detractors" are off by over a year because the FBI is DOJ, and Garland's FBI began arrests on Jan 6 2021 and convictions continue to this day.

During the months of FBI arrest actions, Garland was prosecuting new and outstanding cases, all while rebuilding the personnel of his assistant AG’s, deputies, and 8 Division heads. And meanwhile...

Republicans STILL made Garland wait months for his division heads' confirmations;
Republicans did not confirm Kenneth Polite to head the DOJ's Criminal Division until July 2021!

January 6 2022: Garland states:
“So far, we have
-- issued over 5,000 subpoenas and search warrants,
-- seized approximately 2,000 devices,
-- pored through over 20,000 hours of video footage, and
-- searched through an estimated 15 terabytes of data...
-- received over 300,000 tips from ordinary citizens, who have been our indispensable partners in this effort.”

Garland actions contributed to Special Counsel investigations.
In other words, Garland handed off HIS documents case to Jack Smith.

Jan 2022
— 15 boxes found in the storage area
— the FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Maralago — of those
— 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, of those:
— 67 docs marked Confidential
— 92 docs marked Secret
— 25 docs marked Top Secret
markings reflected that docs were subject to sensitive compartments and dissemination controls
used to restrict access to material in the interest of national security, including
HCS(Humint Control system),
FISA(Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act),
ORCON (originator controlled),
NORORN (could be NOFORN, no foreign national), AND
SI(Special Intelligence)

May 2022
— The first 100 documents marked as classified totaled over 700 pages [National Archives letter to Trump attorney, May 10, 2022]
May 11 2022: Garland convenes four DOJ Grand juries, one for Jan 6 convened until March 2024
— Grand Jury subpoenas Trump for documents

June 3 2022
— Trump lawyer hands over 40 boxes from Maralago storage room
— 38 docs marked Classified


June 3 2022: Garland's DOJ Grand jury subpoenas Trump for remaining docs in Maralago,
lawyers for Trump "certifying" that there were no more;
Trump stole 11,000 government docs, 300 classified docs — lawyers earlier handed over even more

July 22 2022: Garland's Grand jury testimony by Marc Short, Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff, & Short's counsel Greg Jacob

August 8 2022
— FBI warrant search of Maralago
— 103 marked Classified
— 18 marked Top Secret

The law violated: —- 18 U.S.C. 793— Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.
Penalty: Fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
More on the indictability of stolen documents:
https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

Sept 2 2022: Garland's Grand jury subpoenaed testimony by Pat Cipollone,
a) one of the participants in WH meeting Dec 18 2020, that included Giuliani, Powell, Flynn, Patrick Byrne of Overstock,
b) Cipollone sat in on Jan 3 2021 DOJ official meeting with Trump, and
c) Cipollone was in direct contact with trump on Jan 6 during capitol insurrection, and did nothing when Meadows told him Trump didn’t want to interfere with rioters calling for hanging Mike Pence)
and Patrick Philbin
Sept 15 2022: Garland's Grand Jury subpoenas Mark Meadows for testimony and documents
the month of Sept 2022: Garland's DOJ issued over 40 subpoenas to people close to Trump, some of whom are
— Bill Stepien, DT’s campaign mgr; part of team to prevent certification
— Sean Dollman, DT’s campaign CFO
— Ben Williamson, Deputy of Mark Meadows,
— Boris Epshteyn, Trump's lawyer -- phone demanded; part of team to prevent certification
— Mike Lindell -- phone seized
— William Russell, WH special asst to Trump, THEN special aide to Trump in Mar-a-lago

Oct 6 2022: Garland's Grand jury calls back Greg Jacob
Oct 13 2022: Garland's Grand Jury calls back Marc Short, Pence's chief of staff

Nov 4 2022: classified docs found in Biden’s
-- Wilmington home (garage, library), (no docs in Rehoboth beach home) and
-- Penn Biden Center in DC (Richard Sauber is spec counsel to Pres Biden)
Nov 14 2022: Garland asks John Lausch (Trump appointed US Atty, Chicago) to review found Biden documents

Nov 18 2022 Garland appoints Jack Smith (3 days after Trump announces his candidacy for 2024), who inherits the records of the Garland DOJ's work.

By that very day, Nov 18 2022, Garland's DOJ had convicted more than 323 Jan 6 insurrectionists.

All of the above is what AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ did before Jack Smith.

For DU'ers triggered by the mention of Garland, these will forever remain the facts of Garland's Jan 6 work during his first 20 months in office. Along with the vastly under-appreciated fact of Garland's wisdom in choosing Jack Smith as Special Counsel.

[Fiendish Thingy]

30. There you go, bringing facts to a recreational outrage session

Don’t you know that recreational outrage only requires a sense of betrayal by someone expected to be a Deus Ex Machina , who can then be simplistically cast as the villain of the story, without the need for a single fact?

[Fullduplexxx]

10. Isnt telling du memebers to grow the fuck up a violation of ciivility

[Yavin4]

13. He failed to prosecute Trump in a timely manner out of keeping the DOJ out of politics.

Doing so, completely undermined the Democrats' entire message for the 2024 campaign. He's an absolute disgrace.

No link needed.

[ancianita]

25. Prove "untimely."

that the Republican Senate, the court schedules, and due process demands by the defense, were what held up the "timely" prosecution of Trump.


Nor was the law of a speedy trial ever honored by SCOTUS, nor by any judge but federal judge Tanya Chutkan.

Your failure to prove that Garland's failed. is duly noted.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219769030#post19

[usonian]

17. It's what you do and for whom, versus what you don't do

Big $$$ items I see. reported are protecting billionaires from bitcoin theft (YAY) and
(unknown $$$) protecting Comrade Caligula from online hacking and physical threats from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Of course, there were those "world's dumbest traitors" attacking the Capitol, a bunch of nobody's who will all be pardoned.

THE WORST ESPIONAGE SCANDAL AND SEDITION IN U.S. HISTORY
was largely untouched.

I'M JUST WAITING for him to be nominated for Attorney General by Comrade Caligula

AS A REWARD.

[El-Capitan]

22. Unrec - You've lost the forest in all the trees.

Garland kept telling us, "No one is above the law." Ostensibly not true.

He wanted to restore political neutrality to the DOJ. Anything he did is about to be torn down.

[RockRaven]

23. The lack of stuff to link to is the point. No conviction of Trump occurred,

so no link. That is a very public and readily identifiable failure, and not in anyone's head.

He's an old ass man, he doesn't need a participation trophy to feel good about himself or teach him a life lesson.

Do or do not. He did not.

[Blue_Tires]

26. That's all nice and good, but we really needed the big fish

[Celerity]

27. De rec. Especially for the agressive attack posturing (for example your 'grow the fuck up' command)

You do not have the right to take that tone with people on here. It is a really bad look that will garner little sympathy for your argument.

BTW, history will not judge Garland well at all I wager. He failed, when the nation and world needed him most, to adequately do his full and rigorous duty in re Trump et al.

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. Ok, now you've done it...

Like moths to a flame, like chum in shark-infested waters, Godwin 2.0 (all internet discussion about what went wrong in the election, Justice, and the price of eggs always ends with Garland as the scapegoat) is inevitable.

Kudos to your blunt spoken bravery.

Yours in solidarity in the reality based community,
FT

[Silent Type]

29. Can't say for sure, but think Garland was hesitant to go after trump because he knew what a chitshow it would be.

[BigMin28]

32. Then Garland should

Have passed on the job if he wasn't up to the task. Now he and the country get to watch the institution he insisted he was protecting get destroyed.

[BeyondGeography]

31. Garland will go down as one of the best AG's ever

I read that somewhere but I can’t find the link.