Joe Walsh (on MSNBC just now), you are wrong, wrong, wrong in your take on Hunter Biden's pardon

[spooky3]

It won't embolden Trump. Trump has shown repeatedly that he will do whatever he damn pleases. Joe Biden's action is irrelevant.

Joe Biden didn't pardon him simply because he loves his son. He pardoned him because it clearly was a targeted prosecution by Republicans who wanted to discredit and harass Hunter's father, and because Hunter has paid his dues.

A pardon is entirely appropriate and just.

[Deuxcents]

1. He seems pretty irked about this but not about TSF's pardons and now cabinet picks

[Dem4life1234]

11. This!

He needs to shut the fuck up and move on. He should worry about a rapist pedo leading the helm and his nefarious unqualified cabinet picks. That's what he should be upset about!

These mainstream media people are so weird and then they wonder why their ratings are dropping. I am sick of all of them. They are dangerous because they are the reason why he's about to be in office again.

[Evolve Dammit]

51. I find that weird as well.

[spooky3]

2. Fortunately, Anthony Coley, who previously worked with Merrick Garland, is now on disagreeing with Walsh.

[ShazzieB]

26. Good!

[PlanetBev]

3. Completely agree with you

I was hoping Joe would change his mind and pardon Hunter. That family has suffered enough. Looking forward to hearing the Right scream like banshees.

[skylucy]

4. F**k Joe Walsh. His ass-holishness has reappeared.

[arthritisR_US]

35. He's also a repuke so for people to expect anything different

from him is delusional.

[awesomerwb1]

5. Joe has episodes where he reverts back

to being that insufferable tea party turd he once was.

[krkaufman]

15. Walsh has always been a good example ...

… of why opposition to Trump is not a sufficient threshold warranting a platform.

[Karasu]

40. Republicans gonna Republican.

[Jilly_in_VA]

6. I agree with both Joes

Biden AND Walsh. This was a bullshit prosecution from start to finish. We can only expect more of such in the coming four years. If Hunter's last name had been anything but Biden, he'd have been let off with a slap on the wrist, if anything at all.

[spooky3]

9. Joe Walsh is opposed to the pardon. He didn't say he thought it was a bullshit prosecution IIRC. nt

[tavernier]

48. I was confused too.

I thought you were quoting Walsh. After re-reading, I realized that was your quote, not Walsh’s.

[FloridaBlues]

7. They can go and shout to themselves this country is facing

A dictator and republicans yawn at trump.
So happy Joe did this for his son.
Don’t worry by tomorrow trump will select another low life to cabinet.

[FloridaBlues]

8. They can go and shout to themselves this country is facing

A dictator and republicans yawn at trump.
So happy Joe did this for his son.
Don’t worry by tomorrow trump will select another low life to cabinet.

[Hekate]

10. I believe that MAGAGOP was trying their damnedest to destroy Joe thru Hunter...

After awhile, I thought it looked like they were trying to make Hunter kill himself to destroy Joe. It was that bad.

Good for President Biden. This is the right thing to do.

[magicarpet]

14. The GOPee/Nazi Brigade was trying to make Hunter stumble and fall back into,...

..... the abyss of drug abuse. That was one of their ways to tear Joe Biden down. So the Orange Menace would easily win his second term (that djt thought Biden cheated him out of).

[ShazzieB]

27. Amen 1,000,000!

I've been hiding from the news lately, so I hadn't heard about this until now. What lovely news!

[Ocelot II]

30. I think they were at least trying to make him start using again.

It went way beyond a legitimate prosecution for a crime of possessing a gun while abusing drugs. Hunter did commit that crime, but it was one that is almost never prosecuted when there's no underlying crime, as in where the gun is used. If it had been a routine prosecution without a political motive a pardon might not have been appropriate, but Hunter was targeted for the express purpose of harming Joe politically. I think Joe changed his mind when he saw what Trump's DoJ was going to turn into - little but a mechanism for retribution on Trump's behalf - and Trump clearly wanted very much to punish Joe for the 2020 election and intended to do so. Hunter was about to be sentenced for this "crime," but investigations almost certainly would continue under Patel's FBI and Bondi's prosecutors regarding Burisma and who knows what other matters, and it would never end until Hunter broke. Joe must have realized that, and concluded that a pardon was necessary to save Hunter's sobriety if not his life. These are vicious people and they wouldn't have stopped.

[Hekate]

31. You are right

[angrychair]

12. Better to pardon him

Why would he leave his own child at the mercy of those monsters? This was the only possible and best thing he could do to protect him from unrelenting harassment.

[maspaha]

13. spooky3 speaks the TRUTH!!

[LisaL]

16. Exactly.

Trump is already doing whatever he wants.

[calimary]

17. I always suspected that they went after Hunter because they couldn't touch Joe.

Cuz they wanted to hurt Joe Biden. But since they couldn’t pin anything on him, and thru STILL wanted to hurt Joe Biden, they went after his son.

BASTARDS.

[AZ8theist]

20. That was OBVIOUS....

But let's not even WHISPER a peep about Jared Kushner selling out our intelligence assets for $2 BILLION!!
Assassinated assets? Spies tortured and killed in Russia and Saudi Arabia?? WHO CARES??

NO NO NO!!!

NOTHING TO SEE THERE!!!

The corruption and hypocricy (AND TREASON) of the Reich Wing in America is beyond belief.....

[AZ8theist]

18. Is this the same Joe Walsh who screamed "YOU LIE!!" to President Obama during the SotU speech???

What rock did this slimebag crawl out from under?????

[MissLilyBart]

25. Not to defend Walsh, but that wasn't him.

It was Joe Wilson of South Carolina who engaged in that disgraceful outburst.

Joe Walsh wasn't even in Congress in 2009.

[AZ8theist]

33. OK, thanks. Wasn't sure.

[In It to Win It]

19. The guy who pardoned his son-in-law's father and will be nominating him as ambassor to France is not already emboldened?

[Jack Valentino]

21. HUNTER BIDEN 2028

just to troll the maggots....

[arthritisR_US]

37. I disagree, leave the family alone, they've been through enough.

[bmichaelh]

22. False Outrage of MAGA

Does not matter what Biden does.

Trump is driven by immediate impulses.

Trump does not have any kind of moral code that he lives by.

This outrage that MAGA shows will not be there if Trump tries to pardon himself.

I wish Biden would pardon everyone on Trump's enemy list.

Not because they did anything wrong; far from it; so that it would set back his revenge presidency.

[arthritisR_US]

38. I totally agree, lesson his authoritarian impulses.

[Takket]

23. LOL I've heard this take multiple times already and it just keeps getting more absurd

How could ANYONE look at the cast of grifters, conmen, rapists and felons that drumpf is trotting out to run the country and think for HALF A SECOND that drumpf wouldn't do something horrible, but now he will because Biden pardoned Hunter. That is such a STUPID take......... absolutely NOTHING about drumpf's presidency will change because of this.

[Cha]

24. Mahalo Spooky.. who was JW talking to on MSNBC..

that I guess was pearl clutching about repercussions?

The Pardoning of Hunter was More Important than any side effects.

Excellent Statement.

[spooky3]

32. It was Melissa Murray hosting

https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.biography&personid=40825

[Cha]

34. Thanks... I haven't heard that name on

here before.

I don't have a TV... just curious who's being so Ignorant purposely or otherwise.

It was a really good response by Joe Walsh. TY for reporting it!

[spooky3]

36. She's a frequent guest. My post may have been unclear. Joe Walsh

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Was upset that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter. He said it would embolden Trump and that it was wrong and ranted on. Murray asked wouldn’t a father who loves his son pardon him in these circumstances and Walsh disagreed.

[Cha]

49. Oh my Gosh.. I totally read thatt Wrong.. Mahalo

for the Correction!

[orleans]

28. i agree w/you 100% !! nt

[MMBeilis]

29. Perfect, especially the part about a father's love. Fuck them all.

[bluboid]

39. wow, brilliant!

thank you for speaking Truth to power.

[SunSeeker]

41. Well now that Trump will be President, Joe Walsh may decide to be MAGA.

He went from Tea Party to Never Trumper and can just as easily swing back. Fuck him.

[moniss]

42. I would be very concerned for the

personal safety of Hunter if he were in prison while Donald Crumb and his people are in control and how they could "manufacture" incidents of misconduct in prison in order to bring additional charges and keep him behind bars for years and years. Likewise I do not put it past these people to arrange serious physical harm to Hunter. That would be their "payback" to Joe. Protective placement means nothing. Remember that Epstein was in protective custody and supposedly monitored 24/7.

[SunSeeker]

43. Good point. nt

[Sugarcoated]

44. I think rump picking such a blatantly corrupt

and partisan Cash Patel for FBI was the catalyst for Joe to ultimately decide to pardon Hunter

[Irish_Dem]

45. Dangerous psychopaths don't need excuses to commit crimes.

[Bluetus]

46. Optics

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The substance is clear enough. This was a weaponized prosecution, and for a person whose crimes were a drug habit and not checking the right box on a gun permit for a weapon he never used, the consequences have already been extreme. Any reasonable person would say that Hunter has more than paid the price for the things he did. And there is no evidence that Joe interfered with ANY of that, as extreme and unprecedented as it was.

Now, we were looking at the prospects of Trump with his cabinet of crazies adding 4 more years of hell and enormous expense to the punishment that has already been dealt. As a practical matter, this is a no-brainer. Take that away from Trump.

As far as optics go, that is just a Beltway thing. I don't believe anybody else cases. It is not like Joe is letting a mass murderer, or even serial sexual offender, loose on the public. I hope Biden's end-of-term actions don't stop here. Let's get the full Epstein file put into the public domain, as well as the unredacted Mueller report, and Jack Smith's complete findings.

[spooky3]

47. IMHO anyone genuinely concerned with optics

(a) must be so horrified with Trump actions by now that they have moved to Antarctica and buried themselves in snow. Or

(b) has a serious priority problem, to put optics over justice.

[malaise]

50. 100% correct

Rec

[pansypoo53219]

52. the witch hunt that was.