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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow was the decision made to capitalize the "b" in "Black?"
It's relatively recent. When/how was it begun?
John Shaft
(808 posts)as a Black Man. I even capitalized the M for ya too.
It's called self-determination.
hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)sigh... (and no, I know the answer).
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)hlthe2b
(113,973 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Males have controlled the world since time began.
They have the power and they know it.
Bettie
(19,704 posts)Women. Yes, that seems right.
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Women, Women, Women.
brush
(61,033 posts)African-American men or African-American women is several, additional keystrokes to input, especially on small cellphone/Black Berry keyboards, etc.
The long and short of it is, we Americans love our short cuts.
Prairie Gates
(8,157 posts)Perfect response!
Polybius
(21,902 posts)And I don't see white being capitalized in the media, even if it's in the same sentence as black.
Why we capitalize Black (and not white)
June 16, 2020 By Mike Laws
https://www.ap.org/the-definitive-source/announcements/the-decision-to-capitalize-black/
The decision to capitalize Black
We are today making an important change to AP style that stems from a long and fruitful conversation among news leaders, editors and diverse members of our staff and external groups and organizations.
By Nicole Meir, The Associated Press
JUNE 19, 2020
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misanthrope
(9,495 posts)was to insist that "white" be capitalized as well.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)
LAS14
(15,506 posts)Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)Before he became a senator, Black espoused anti-Catholic views and was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama. An article from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that he temporarily resigned from the Klan in 1925 to bolster his senatorial campaign, before quietly rejoining the Klan in 1926.[5] In 1937, upon being appointed to the Supreme Court, Black said: "Before becoming a Senator I dropped the Klan. I have had nothing to do with it since that time. I abandoned it. I completely discontinued any association with the organization." Black served as the secretary of the Senate Democratic Conference and the chair of the Senate Education Committee during his decade in the Senate. Having gained a reputation in the Senate as a reformer, Black was nominated to the Supreme Court by President Roosevelt and confirmed by the Senate by a vote of 63 to 16 (six Democratic Senators and 10 Republican Senators voted against him). He was the first of nine Roosevelt appointees to the court, and he outlasted all except for William O. Douglas.
The fifth longest-serving justice in Supreme Court history, Black was one of the most influential Supreme Court justices in the 20th century. He is noted for using historical evidence to support textualist arguments, his position that the liberties guaranteed in the Bill of Rights were imposed on the states ("incorporated" ) by the Fourteenth Amendment, and his absolutist stance on the First Amendment, often declaring "No law [abridging the freedom of speech] means no law." Black expanded individual rights in his opinions in cases such as Gideon v. Wainwright, Engel v. Vitale, and Wesberry v. Sanders.
Black's views were not uniformly liberal. During World War II, he wrote the majority opinion in Korematsu v. United States (1944), which upheld the internment of Japanese Americans ordered by the president Franklin Roosevelt. During the mid-1960s, Black became slightly more conservative. Black opposed the doctrine of substantive due process (the pre-1937 Supreme Court's interpretation of this concept made it impossible for the government to enact legislation that conservatives claimed interfered with the freedom of business owners), and believed that there was no basis in the words of the Constitution for a right to privacy, voting against finding one in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965). He also took conservative positions in cases such as Shapiro v. Thompson, Goldberg v. Kelly, Tinker v. Des Moines, and Cohen v. California where he distinguished between "pure speech" and "expressive conduct".
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,854 posts)Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)Interesting guy. Dixiecrat who was associated with the KKK early in his career but also strongly supported the New Deal as a senator. Evolved into a highly influential justice who advocated for total incorporation - a legal doctrine that argues the federal Bill of Rights also applies to the states.
A lot of cases that liberals and progressives of the era fought and won had Black supporting them. Like public defenders being required for criminals, separation of church and state, anti-segregation, etc.
Not perfect (upheld Japanese internment), but pretty solidly liberal for the the era.
Sneederbunk
(17,496 posts)EarlG
(23,633 posts)But if you're interested in why it is often done, here's the Columbia Journalism Review's take...
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/capital-b-black-styleguide.php
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)Here are a few reasons for this capitalization:
1. Recognition of Identity and Culture: Capitalizing Black highlights the shared history, culture, and experiences of Black communities, particularly in the African diaspora. It emphasizes that Black refers to a collective identity, not just a descriptor of skin color.
2. Parallels with Other Ethnic and Racial Groups: Just as we capitalize terms like Asian, Latino, and Native American, capitalizing Black aligns with this standard for naming groups based on ethnicity or race.
3. Respect and Affirmation: Many people and organizations see capitalization as a way to show respect and affirm the significance of Black identity in social and historical contexts. It helps distinguish between racial identity and other uses of the word black.
4. Historical Context: Historically, Black communities have faced marginalization and erasure of their cultural identities. The practice of capitalization has been adopted as part of efforts to reclaim identity and assert dignity.
This shift became particularly widespread in journalism and other formal writing following events like the Black Lives Matter movement, with organizations like The Associated Press and The New York Times officially adopting the change in 2020.
DeepWinter
(931 posts)when it refers to any group. Asian, Black, White, Hispanic, etc... Not making any group special, just noting status.
ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)...a desire to consider it an ethnicity.
We write "Italian" or "Irish", not "italian" or "irish". And so on.
Though is can't remember if capitalizing the "L" in Latino is standard or not. I see the "A" in "Asian" routinely capitalized.
I know others have cites for the reason, but I'm speculating on the motivation.
Also, capitalizing may connote that the writer is talking about a person not an object, like a black car.
It's ok by me. I see no reason not to, however, I'm not sure I'd remember to do it even I I meant to.
Igel
(37,535 posts)From Italy, Ireland, Latin, Asia. Like American, African, or African-American.
ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)When someone uses African-American, we capitalize. But, that's inherited capitalization, too.
Good point.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)It delights me to do this because I know it bugs racists.
As posted here in this thread, there are good reasons to capitalize Black, along with Latino, Asian, Native American, but not white.
Nonetheless, many writers also capitalize White.
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)Vaguely remember something in a grammar book yrs ago...
TlalocW
(15,675 posts)My slight OCD tendencies (ie I'm just anal) won't let me do one without the other.
haele
(15,403 posts)Black as opposed to a generic black person.
There's Proper Nouns, like names, locations. And then there's Classification Common Nouns that point out specified subjects, like the difference between "when I went to university" and "when I went to the University".
Or "I want a attorney" as opposed to "I want my Attorney".
Black, White, Native American, Latino/Hispanic, Asian are all classifiers, as is Citizen or Immigrant.
To capitalize or not isn't really interchangable; because there's a lot of context brought to the reader in the written word that isn't necessary in verbal or physical interaction.
Haele
XanaDUer2
(15,772 posts)LAS14
(15,506 posts)... does anyone know how the question became one that needed addressing? I never heard of the idea until major newspapers, etc., started using it. The evolution of Negro to black seemed much more of a groundswell. Am I just misremembering?