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ecstatic

(34,993 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:57 PM Dec 2024

Should Biden "blanket pardon" everyone who trump is threatening to lock up?

What can be done to protect everyone who trump is threatening to lock up (Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Liz Cheney, etc)?

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Should Biden "blanket pardon" everyone who trump is threatening to lock up? (Original Post) ecstatic Dec 2024 OP
Yup, and fuck the whiners who bloviate about it. Ocelot II Dec 2024 #1
lol! Might as well go out with a bang! ecstatic Dec 2024 #2
"Own the Reps!" kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #22
Yup! Hannity and Ingraham can go shove it where it doesn't shine! Initech Dec 2024 #10
Then it sets the precedent DeepWinter Dec 2024 #38
Agreed but trump already set that precedent. ecstatic Dec 2024 #39
We already look like idiots on the world stage Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #40
Absolutely Mz Pip Dec 2024 #3
I think it's the only way he can defend those citizens FullySupportDems Dec 2024 #4
And for some of them, who have received a lot of Mike 03 Dec 2024 #11
Yes! Jim__ Dec 2024 #5
He should neuter all of Trump's grievance tour against anyone bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #6
Absolutely. CincyDem Dec 2024 #7
Yes! VMA131Marine Dec 2024 #8
I'm for it, big time Mike 03 Dec 2024 #9
so we need a copy of that list... ecstatic Dec 2024 #12
Yes. There are no longer rules nor norms. sinkingfeeling Dec 2024 #13
Von Papen enid602 Dec 2024 #14
Of course he should. ramedy Dec 2024 #15
Yes - and pardon all the Dreamers OutNow Dec 2024 #16
Yes Demsrule86 Dec 2024 #17
Yes and pardon the millions of anti trumpers too. Rump considers us The Enemy of the People. Trueblue1968 Dec 2024 #18
Yes ArnoldLayne Dec 2024 #19
Hell, yes! BigmanPigman Dec 2024 #20
Yes, absolutely NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2024 #21
Yes LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2024 #23
Here is a list of people who President Biden may consider pardoning LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2024 #24
Yes he should, and then he should issue himself one, Volaris Dec 2024 #25
Yes pardon away President Biden kimbutgar Dec 2024 #26
Yes tRump even threatened people who donate to the Harris campaign. So I want one. And maybe Biden can diane in sf Dec 2024 #27
Fuck yeah Blue Owl Dec 2024 #28
Can he keep ***** from pardoning the J6 rebels? Seeking Serenity Dec 2024 #29
Yes. Dulcinea Dec 2024 #30
Hell YES!! Jit423 Dec 2024 #31
Yes. madashelltoo Dec 2024 #32
ABSOLUTELY!!!! FlyingPiggy Dec 2024 #33
Yes bdamomma Dec 2024 #34
Not a chance... it's like an admission of criminality to the public. WarGamer Dec 2024 #35
Don't care. If appointing a criminal who spent years in jail to be an ambassador, all rules were thrown out. lark Dec 2024 #43
Is Garland on the list? Emile Dec 2024 #36
No pardon for him - he is guilty as sin and will never be charged. lark Dec 2024 #42
He should do everything in his power to fuck up everything the trump cult wants to accomplish. SamKnause Dec 2024 #37
100%!! lark Dec 2024 #41

Ocelot II

(128,732 posts)
1. Yup, and fuck the whiners who bloviate about it.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:01 PM
Dec 2024

Everybody who's on Trump's and Patel's enemies lists should be given the same general pardon that Ford gave Nixon, because every last one of them has a target on his/her back. The worst thing Nixon ever did to his "enemies" was threaten IRS audits, which the IRS commissioner at the time refused to do. Trump will try to bring the full weight of the FBI and the DoJ down on at least some of these people. The purpose will not necessarily be to actually send them to prison (most won't make it past a grand jury), but to bankrupt them in the process of having to defend themselves, and to deter others from talking smack about Dear Leader.

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
38. Then it sets the precedent
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:26 AM
Dec 2024

the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. ...

And we all look like children on the Worlds stage.

ecstatic

(34,993 posts)
39. Agreed but trump already set that precedent.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 08:05 AM
Dec 2024

We don't know what will happen but we do know that trump has promised to punish everyone who attempted to hold him accountable.

Unfortunately, thanks to garland, Democrats already had a massive failure by not bringing trump to justice prior to 2024. Are we now going to add on to the failure by not protecting the people who tried to do their jobs? That would be an absolute disgrace and no amount of spinning or purist drivel would fix that.

FullySupportDems

(400 posts)
4. I think it's the only way he can defend those citizens
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:06 PM
Dec 2024

From being attacked by a domestic threat to their civil rights. It's a clear danger to them and I think he is obligated. What are they gonna do, not vote for him? Threaten him with something they haven't already? Whine?

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
11. And for some of them, who have received a lot of
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:20 PM
Dec 2024

publicity, or testified, and who lack resources, I would even be in favor of providing them with personal security, or funds to pay for private security.

We owe it to them.

(And don't get me started on how the NY court system let down Stormy Daniels...)

bucolic_frolic

(53,678 posts)
6. He should neuter all of Trump's grievance tour against anyone
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:08 PM
Dec 2024

Trump is a crooked sheriff. This isn't the Olde West.

CincyDem

(7,298 posts)
7. Absolutely.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:12 PM
Dec 2024

Many of those folks represent leadership of some core institutions of democracy. Protecting them is an important element of “doing everything possible to protect democracy”.

Pardon power for whatever reason has always been a presidential power…thing to assert it to its fullest. Imagine our future with Kash’s hit list in jail.

Pardon them all.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
9. I'm for it, big time
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:16 PM
Dec 2024

Trump's self-proclaimed "Secretary of Retribution," Ivan Raiklin, wants to persecute the Capitol Hill police officers who testified about the Jan 6 insurrection! His list allegedly contains the names of over 350 people and to my knowledge it has not been made public.

As we all know, a lot of very decent and courageous people are on these lists. I am guessing that everyone involved in the January 6 Committee in any way, shape and form is on that list, including Cassidy Hutchison, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

The thought of not protecting these folks is inconceivable if President Biden has the power to do so.

ecstatic

(34,993 posts)
12. so we need a copy of that list...
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:21 PM
Dec 2024

It shouldn't be too hard for someone to trick empty g or bobo into providing it.

sinkingfeeling

(56,989 posts)
13. Yes. There are no longer rules nor norms.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:24 PM
Dec 2024

You know what TSF would do if things were reversed.

enid602

(9,607 posts)
14. Von Papen
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:30 PM
Dec 2024

That’s like Fritz von Papen issuing blanket pardon protection to all the people who Hitler was threatening to lock up,

OutNow

(908 posts)
16. Yes - and pardon all the Dreamers
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:18 PM
Dec 2024

Since the Supreme Court has decided that a President can't get in trouble for doing any official act, he should issue pardons for anyone on Trump's enemy list and lots of other folks including MSNBC folks and any others media folks who were critical of Trump. In addition, he should do a blanket pardon for all Dreamers so they can stay in the USA. Come on Joe, get that pardon machine cranking baby.

Trueblue1968

(19,020 posts)
18. Yes and pardon the millions of anti trumpers too. Rump considers us The Enemy of the People.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:52 PM
Dec 2024

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,933 posts)
24. Here is a list of people who President Biden may consider pardoning
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:44 PM
Dec 2024

I remember the Nixon's enemies list. My high school civics teacher/debate coach made sure that we all saw this list. There as a joke that not being on the list was an actual insult by Nixon

There are some republicans on this list






Volaris

(11,323 posts)
25. Yes he should, and then he should issue himself one,
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:44 PM
Dec 2024

And when the SC says 'bro no you can't pardon your damn self', it can be turned as precedent against trump when he absolutely does the same thing.

Blanket pardons for everyone on Kashs list, to start with.

Speaking of, can someone here print up a form letter that I can sign, that can be sent to DirectorFBIOffice.gov, or whatever, requesting I be put on Kashs Enimies List?

I'll happily sigh it, and if a few million other of us do the same, at least the world will see him as the laughing stock he is.

kimbutgar

(26,637 posts)
26. Yes pardon away President Biden
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:46 PM
Dec 2024

He’s going to be our last Democratic elected president so please proceed.

RIP USA 1776-2025 we will have a dictatorship that won’t go away in 2028.

diane in sf

(4,207 posts)
27. Yes tRump even threatened people who donate to the Harris campaign. So I want one. And maybe Biden can
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:57 PM
Dec 2024

just pre-emptively pardon the entire population of the US and territories,

Blue Owl

(58,102 posts)
28. Fuck yeah
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:58 PM
Dec 2024

Now THAT would be a BIG FUCKING DEAL….

Joe should pardon EVERY AMERICAN who believes in DEMOCRACY and not the fat fuck’s fascist Russian agenda — fuck them all to the depths of hell….

Seeking Serenity

(3,247 posts)
29. Can he keep ***** from pardoning the J6 rebels?
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:09 PM
Dec 2024

We turned into a lawless society a month ago anyway, so why not give it a try?

Dulcinea

(9,554 posts)
30. Yes.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:16 PM
Dec 2024

What's he got to lose? He should tell the McFelon to go fuck himself while he's at it, but Joe is too much of a class act for that.

WarGamer

(18,213 posts)
35. Not a chance... it's like an admission of criminality to the public.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:16 PM
Dec 2024

The optics would be REALLY bad.

lark

(25,823 posts)
43. Don't care. If appointing a criminal who spent years in jail to be an ambassador, all rules were thrown out.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:12 AM
Dec 2024

In electing a criminal traitor our country has shown they want fascism, only they think it will only hurt others and not them. How ironic it will be when they are losing everything too - only the people who voted for him 100% deserve every bad thing they will get - WE DON"T!!!

lark

(25,823 posts)
42. No pardon for him - he is guilty as sin and will never be charged.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 2024

I hope his conscience hurts him every day though, it would be fitting.

SamKnause

(14,631 posts)
37. He should do everything in his power to fuck up everything the trump cult wants to accomplish.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:20 AM
Dec 2024

Fuck the optics.

We are fighting to save democracy from the criminal trump cult.

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