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Biden aides debating preemptive pardons for Fauci, Schiff and Cheney, others (Original Post) HereForTheParty Dec 2024 OP
K&R bdamomma Dec 2024 #1
This should not even be a debate. Those folks will be hunted Arazi Dec 2024 #2
Absolutely. And don't stop with Fauci, Schiff and Cheney. Bluetus Dec 2024 #27
please set up a website for anyone that thinks they MAY need one lapfog_1 Dec 2024 #3
This gives the magas cover points Dec 2024 #5
Traitor has called 2020 Dem election workers "enemies of the state" Arazi Dec 2024 #6
Not just them, pat-in-el's list for his sick fascist plan: Justice matters. Dec 2024 #7
Yup... I truly hate that this precedent will be set Arazi Dec 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #22
Yes, Yes, Yes. Pardon the Republicans Trump is targeting too. Bluetus Dec 2024 #30
this is not a blanket pardon lapfog_1 Dec 2024 #8
They will do it anyway creeksneakers2 Dec 2024 #18
even violent domestic terrorists will be pardoned rampartd Dec 2024 #31
No skin off your back, Joe. Just fucking do it dalton99a Dec 2024 #4
Did you see how much shit he took this week? newdeal2 Dec 2024 #15
They must protect Dr Fauci onecaliberal Dec 2024 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #24
Don't debate ffs orangecrush Dec 2024 #11
Every Employee of the Federal Government MissouriDem47 Dec 2024 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #28
Do it! Do many - now! Earthrise Dec 2024 #13
This is disgraceful that this has to even be discussed. Dr. Fauci dedicated his life to public service tulipsandroses Dec 2024 #14
YES YES YES creeksneakers2 Dec 2024 #16
I'm glad this is being discussed. ShazzieB Dec 2024 #17
Stop debating and take action dlk Dec 2024 #19
Please write the White House creeksneakers2 Dec 2024 #20
If he doesn't do it Demobrat Dec 2024 #21
But isn't accepting a pardon an admission... Shipwack Dec 2024 #23
It infers guilt... not good. WarGamer Dec 2024 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #33
Ya think? kerouac2 Dec 2024 #29
Well, they better get going on that if that is their plan, as there isn't much time left tornado34jh Dec 2024 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2024 #34
Good for starters UTUSN Dec 2024 #35
Stop cowering. Defeat the Trumpers face to face. Be as brave as the South Koreans. tirebiter Dec 2024 #36

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
2. This should not even be a debate. Those folks will be hunted
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 2024

And legally harassed for the rest of their lives.

Traitor and his minions have promised that and I believe them

Bluetus

(2,793 posts)
27. Absolutely. And don't stop with Fauci, Schiff and Cheney.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:21 AM
Dec 2024

Do a pardon for everybody Trump, Patel or any of the other fascists have ever mentioned for retribution. If that is 1000 pardons, so much the better. That will illustrate what a threat these fascists are.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
3. please set up a website for anyone that thinks they MAY need one
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:40 PM
Dec 2024

we should all register.

I think a blanket pardon for any social media posts, protest, speech, etc.

If you think they won't come for us... don't register.

Paranoid, maybe, but I am a student of history. Everyone that works for MSNBC and CNN and Free speech TV and dozens of podcasters... they ALL need presidential pardons.

Lots of people that work in various agencies and departments... and even State workers and elected officials.

All of our Senators and Congresspersons and former government officials

points

(48 posts)
5. This gives the magas cover
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:48 PM
Dec 2024

They want blanket pardons and they have and intend to do more actual crimes.
I totally get the impulse to protect, and maybe this is the way. The first time I heard the idea I thought it was a good one. But now I'm concerned all maga actual traitors and criminals will just get their own preemptive pardons also

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
6. Traitor has called 2020 Dem election workers "enemies of the state"
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:52 PM
Dec 2024

That should be prosecuted because they “stole the election”.

Cover them or let them hang? (Full disclosure, I’m one of them)

Justice matters.

(9,786 posts)
7. Not just them, pat-in-el's list for his sick fascist plan:
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:57 PM
Dec 2024


Not even sure their potential Pardon will even matter to the convicted felon's fascists.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
9. Yup... I truly hate that this precedent will be set
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:02 PM
Dec 2024

But I don’t see any other possible way to protect folks who were just doing their jobs like Fauci.

Traitor is a malignant narcissist whose entire life revolves around grievance and revenge. His cruelty feeds his black soul.

Nobody will escape his vengeance if it can be done. Minions like Kash Patel would an eager and vicious thug dispensing the pain forever…

Response to Arazi (Reply #9)

Bluetus

(2,793 posts)
30. Yes, Yes, Yes. Pardon the Republicans Trump is targeting too.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:23 AM
Dec 2024

This is not a red vs blue thing. This is democracy versus the new Nazi movement.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
8. this is not a blanket pardon
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:59 PM
Dec 2024

It is a pardon covering speech and other writings and utterances, whether given freely on a website or podcast or in public or private. Not actions that are subject to criminal charges.

I am not afraid of being found guilty if I was criminally charged or even investigated for what I post here. However that isn't the point... the point is that I would have to pay a criminal defense lawyer to mount the defense ( either criminal or civil ). I don't happen to have $50K laying around to spend on this. These people hate us... and they will have the resources of the federal government to use to sue us into bankruptcy. And if you think they won't do it with Kash Patel at the FBI...

newdeal2

(5,409 posts)
15. Did you see how much shit he took this week?
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:04 PM
Dec 2024

Not saying he shouldn’t or won’t do it, but it’s still something he has to live with.

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #10)

MissouriDem47

(420 posts)
12. Every Employee of the Federal Government
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:41 PM
Dec 2024

should get a sweeping pardon not matter who they are or where they worked

Response to MissouriDem47 (Reply #12)

Response to MissouriDem47 (Reply #12)

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
14. This is disgraceful that this has to even be discussed. Dr. Fauci dedicated his life to public service
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:58 PM
Dec 2024

I have so much disgust for anyone that voted for the convicted felon. Fuck you and your price of eggs and any other selfish hateful reason you decided to trade democracy for.

creeksneakers2

(8,015 posts)
16. YES YES YES
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:05 PM
Dec 2024

I've been pushing this idea on Facebook and Kos and here and planned push it everywhere I could . Biden could thwart Trump's entire Fascist retribution plot. DO IT!!!!!!

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
17. I'm glad this is being discussed.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:22 PM
Dec 2024

I'm skeptical about them coming after every rando who's ever posted something critical of TSF on a message board (like yours truly), just because of the sheer volume. Somebody would have to go through millions of posts to find all of us "culprits," and identifying every person who posts under an anonymous screen name at places like DU would be another gargantuan chore. I guess it would be doable, in theory, but why bother?

So I'm not seriously worried for myself, but there are people like the ones mentioned in that X post who will be in serious danger, and I am all for protecting them.

creeksneakers2

(8,015 posts)
20. Please write the White House
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:35 PM
Dec 2024

and urge them to Thwart Trump's Fascist retribution plot. Blanket pardons for all threatened except those with credible accusations against them.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/get-involved/write-or-call/

Demobrat

(10,299 posts)
21. If he doesn't do it
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:48 PM
Dec 2024

Trump will come after those people twice as hard just to make him wish he had.

Response to WarGamer (Reply #25)

kerouac2

(1,495 posts)
29. Ya think?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:22 AM
Dec 2024

Finally, let's use some ammo before we have none.

I swear, it's like trumpers lack the ability to recognize that they are voting against their own self interests... And dem leaders lack the ability to recognize when they actually yield the power to protect everyones interests.

I mean, really. How did we not put trump behind bars. Hell, how did we not get guys like Jordan and Goetz TF outta here.

Smh.

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
32. Well, they better get going on that if that is their plan, as there isn't much time left
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:30 AM
Dec 2024

We're already in December, so there are only approximately 6 1/2 weeks left before inauguration.

Response to HereForTheParty (Original post)

tirebiter

(2,699 posts)
36. Stop cowering. Defeat the Trumpers face to face. Be as brave as the South Koreans.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:15 AM
Dec 2024

The smell of fear makes the sharks go crazy.

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