NYPD Update: More pics of UHC CEO shooter

[Dennis Donovan]

NYPD NEWS
🚨UPDATE: Below are photos of a person of interest wanted for questioning regarding the Midtown Manhattan homicide on Dec. 4. This does not appear to be a random act of violence; all indications are that it was a premediated, targeted attack.

The full investigative efforts of the NYPD are continuing, and we are asking for the public’s help—if you have any information about this case, call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477). There is a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to an arrest and conviction.


11:20 AM · Dec 5, 2024

Happy-looking guy.

Link to tweet

[MustLoveBeagles]

1. K&R

[Prairie Gates]

2. Hmmm...different backpack

That's a damn clear shot of his face, though. They're going to ID this guy within 24 hours.

[Blue_Roses]

3. I thought the same thing

Backpack is different

[Ocelot II]

6. It's not different; in the pic on the left he doesn't seem to be wearing it.

The jacket details are the same in both photos.

[obamanut2012]

8. It is a different backpack

[Prairie Gates]

10. Different from the pics yesterday, not between the pics

[Blue_Roses]

12. He's got the strap draped

over his right shoulder and it's black. The one that the shooter wore had white straps

[ecstatic]

48. yikes! Someone innocent might get killed due to this confusion. nt

[Quakerfriend]

5. Good spot re: backpack! I heard that

law enforcement has cup he threw away at Starbucks & may have his DNA.

[sop]

4. If he's not the shooter, he should turn himself in before being gunned down by the NYPD.

[uponit7771]

19. Many people don't pay attention to M$M

[obamanut2012]

7. Different backpack, and the jacket may be different, too

I am skeptical this is the guy. It would also be interesting he planned this like this and then showed his face for no reason.

[milestogo]

11. Maybe the picture is from before the crime.

[LeftInTX]

61. The most recent picture, I believe is from a hostel where he was staying. May or may not be the suspect.

[Prairie Gates]

13. Here are some pics from yesterday - I agree the jacket is different, too

[Quixote1818]

20. Yeah, almost nothing is the same. nt

[fargone]

9. I am not privy to all the details but are they sure it is not a woman?

[Prairie Gates]

14. More pics from yesterday for comparison

Some observations: Hood in these pics is part of the jacket, which looks like a windbreaker of some kind. The OP pics, the jacket looks like a Levi's light fall jacket, and the hood is a hoodie underneath it. The jacket in the OP has two breast pockets. The jacket in yesterday's pics, none - it's smooth flat front.

The backpack in the OP is black and small, slung over one shoulder in the second pic, probably on the ground in the first. The backpack in yesterday's pic is a large light gray travel backpack. These may be the same guy (I gotta trust that the NYPD is not jamming up some rando), but I'm not entirely convinced. Yesterday's pics looks a bit bigger in build, and without those nice eyelashes.

[underpants]

22. Pic on the right looks like a famous celebrity

But the uncovered picks today look like another famous celebrity.

[Prairie Gates]

24. Jake Gyllenhall, right?

Am I crazy?

[underpants]

29. Today's yeah. That was my initial reaction

The pic from yesterday looked straight at his fave looks like Tom Cruise. Part of that is that both these actors appear to be close to his height too.

[Blue_Roses]

32. I noticed

the same thing about the nose and eyelashes. Eyelashes look thicker and darker in pics today. But, surely the NYPD has facial recognition software and comparison.

I need to step away for awhile. I've been watching too much NCIS

[ecstatic]

50. this guy looks white, the new guy looks middle eastern. nt

[yardwork]

15. Wearing different clothes and backpack; could be a different day.

NYPD must have a reason to want to talk to this person. Do they think they have an ID and these are photos of the suspect at a different time?

[Prairie Gates]

17. If they have an ID, they'd put that out

Seems to me. Where is he in the pics from today? Looks institutional from the flooring.

[yardwork]

21. It's a mystery.

Maybe they've been able to track him around the city and he changed clothes later in the day?

I've thought it's odd that he wore such a recognizable backpack to commit a murder.

[Prairie Gates]

23. Backpack from the crime looks very large - for carrying needed stuff

At the same time, the jacket looks like it is OVER a whole lot of other clothes.

If I'm honest, the nose seems off as well between the pics from yesterday (narrow at the top) and today (looks like a guy who's had some fistfights/ boxer). Yesterday guy looks more northern Euro; today's guy more southern Euro.

Probably all just an artifact of the cameras. Surely NYPD isn't putting out recognizable pics of somebody if they're not sure, right?

[yardwork]

27. Person of interest doesn't mean they're a suspect.

"Person of interest" means they want to talk to him, for some reason, but that doesn't mean they think he's the shooter.

Do we know for sure that this Twitter account is actually the NYPD? It could be some rando posting photos?

[LeftInTX]

64. The guy in the recent photos checked into a hostel with a fake ID

[Asa13]

16. I hope they find him and give him a medal

[sarisataka]

18. May I link to your post

for all those who say they see no one celebrating the shooting?

[BannonsLiver]

25. Congrats, you finally found one.

[sarisataka]

31. Far from the first...

just a little more explicit than some others. Frankly I am more disturbed by the posts calling for more killings.

[BannonsLiver]

33. Sorry I didn't mean to make light

I know you are very invested in this.

[sarisataka]

35. My fear is that our very justified issues with our healthcare system

are blinding us to our values slipping away. It is entirely possible to point out the injustices of insurance driven healthcare while condemning cold-blooded murder.

If we simply become "Republican-lite", are we any better than the deplorables?

[yardwork]

38. Not everyone is good at nuance.

All over the world we're seeing people lash out. Voting for Trump was a form of lashing out. Cheering an assassin because of what the health insurance industry does is lashing out. The guys who attempted to assassinate Trump were lashing out.

Climate change, a global pandemic, a huge and increasing disparity between the ultra-wealthy and everybody else, a globalized economy that depends on workers who are greatly underpaid and abused.... it's all creating a lot of pressure and many humans aren't handling it well.

To extend your question... if we cheer assassins because the system is broken, how are we different from people who voted for Trump because they believe the system is broken?

Tbh, my response to this murder has made me more empathetic to Trump voters. A lot of us are sick to death of what's happening. We just have different ways of expressing it. I won't cheer an assassin but I can understand why some do.

[sarisataka]

44. I get the lashing out feeling

the problem comes when we condone people illegally lashing out. If we accept murder as a solution to a grievance we cannot really complain when it happens to us in return.

Wrong is wrong regardless of the target.

[SamuelTheThird]

51. You're mixing up terms

Wrong and illegal are not at all identical. I hope I don't need to give you current and historical examples. The Nazis had a very intense need to put their actions on a 'legal' basis, for instance.

If you want to say the CEO getting popped shouldn't be condoned because there are practical consequences to society of letting vigilantes act, that is one thing.

If you want to say it is metaphysically 'wrong' to murder someone responsible for 1000's (at least) premature deaths due to corporate policies, that's a different lane. Murder in the latter case (or do you not want to call it murder? what do you call it then?) as a solution to increasing corporate profits means they can't complain when someone else murders as a response to their policies- by your own definition.

[sarisataka]

52. I am very clear on the terms

a major sticking point at the Wannsee Conference was to make sure the "Final Solution" was carried out legally, according to German law.

Murder is wrong. Murdering someone for a corporate policy is wrong and illegal.

If you want to try to twist it to be about profits, I ask what are the chances the new CEO is going to change the policy and say "just approve everything". I will place my bet on a number lower than 1.
Since the metaphysical wrong is still there, go ahead and murder the next one?

[SamuelTheThird]

54. I'm sure as the oligarchs grind everyone else into dust

and oil companies destroy civilization, you can enjoy a sense of moral superiority.

[sarisataka]

55. I guess I have the quaint notion

That my ethics are not flexible. That view was once seen as a virtue.

[SamuelTheThird]

65. Well, this is quite interesting...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-coverage-policy/

Fear is one of the major motivators in human behavior Sometimes it can even trump greed.

[sarisataka]

66. I find that policy repugnant

and I guess their execs need to be concerned now about 2nd Amendment solutions.

However, no matter how bad I believe the policy is, I do not support killing anyone in the company over it. The solution to our healthcare woes is legislation, not assassination.

[Blue_Roses]

59. This!!

I think you are spot on! We are sick and tired of all the worrying. The bills, healthcare and can we afford it, affordable housing, fair treatment for everyone and the list goes on. I'm physically and emotionally drained.

[Asa13]

40. Sorry my values are fighting for the american people

I dont really care that a insurance ceo suffering from the pre-existing condition of being an asshole and making money in the backs of the suffering of the American people got unalived

[SamuelTheThird]

43. How do you know it was cold-blooded?

The murder itself was seemingly performed calmly, but the motive could very well be anything but- evidence points to the opposite in fact.

[sarisataka]

45. A calm and pre-meditated murder

is the definition of clod blooded. Motive does not change the definition.

[SamuelTheThird]

47. Of course it does

If someone stealthily crept up and calmly shot hitler in the head, we would never call that a cold blooded murder. Language is always contextual.

[sarisataka]

49. Well that is certainly comparing apples to coconuts

[questionseverything]

67. I think using ai to deny 90% of claims is cold blooded murder

With tons of suffering to endure before hand

[Kingofalldems]

34. You should alert on them.

[sarisataka]

36. Of the half dozen or so I have seen

one has been hidden...
Most of them have multiple recs

[Asa13]

37. Sure i really dont care

[sarisataka]

39. Thank you

[Cha]

60. Mahalo to you for all your posts

on this subject... I happen to agree and you put it so steadfastly Well.

[orleans]

26. thom hartmann said the guy stayed at a hostel and they have a water bottle he drank from

so they have his dna

that can be traced to anyone in his family who has dna on file


also thom is currently reading a post from du from gopiscrap
about the insurance, illness, bankruptcies, prison, etc

[yardwork]

28. Interesting. Maybe these photos are from check-in at a hostel?

[LeftInTX]

62. Yes.

[LeftInTX]

63. The person in the hostel photo used a fake NJ ID to check into the hostel

Still not convinced that it's the shooter, but it is interesting how they are zeroing in on hostels.

[CousinIT]

30. THOUSANDS on BlueSky won't see this. NYPDNews has an account there but...

....it's unused.

Pfft.

[Yavin4]

41. Cannot wait for the Law and Order episode of this crime.

It's going to be epic.

[Happy Hoosier]

42. He appears very young....

.... wonder what happened to him to make him just toss away his future. 'Cause they WILL catch him. No tears for the shitty vicitim, though.

[Passages]

46. Regarding motive, it seems a firefighters pension fund filed a lawsuit

against him. It claims Thompson sold $15 million of United Health stock even though he knew the feds had an antitrust investigation ongoing...claiming he did not disclose this to the investors.


What an incredible tangle this mess seems to be.

[Omnipresent]

53. He has an infectious smile...

Which also isn’t covered by UHC!

[BlueTsunami2018]

56. I'm against helping the police for any reason.

Fuck the police. Let them do their own job.

[Mosby]

57. Maybe this was the witness who scurried away.

And not the shooter.

[sunflowerseed]

58. Can we stop linking to twit land?

[Prairie Gates]

68. UPDATE: Reverse view of the Hostel Check-In Pic (not taken at the time of course)

This is from the hostel website: https://www.hiusa.org/find-hostels/new-york/new-york-891-amsterdam-ave