holy cow are people freaking out about gun!

[underoath]

What happened this morning is a horrible tragedy. That goes without saying.



but some one people. Those of you talking about crazy gun nuts are sounding crazy yourself!!!


do you think the person who did this is right in their mind? I doubt it. This is not some sane law abiding citizen. There is obviously something wrong with this person.


Lets just ban guns all together! great idea. let the criminals run around with gun but no one else. yeah sounds great.

[onehandle]

1. Welcome to ignore. nt

[hatrack]

45. This

nt

[AngryOldDem]

53. Has to be one in every crowd.

[coalition_unwilling]

54. Ding! Ding! Ding! Simple 3-word eloquence - n/t

[Harmony Blue]

2. Putting in place Universal health care so we can reduce the amount of mentally ill people

from committing these tragedies is a long term problem that must be tackled.

In the short term, we have a real gun crisis...not a manufactured crisis like the Fiscal cliff.

[Arugula Latte]

3. Get lost.

[underoath]

6. do you think the person who did it is a sane human being?

or do you think something is wrong with them because of what they did?

[Bucky]

51. Sane, obviously, is not a binary toggle left in the "ON" or "OFF" position.

That's a damned misleading question. Such a shooter as today's is obviously making irrational, perverted, unjustifiable choices. That's never going to be the test of sanity, or no one would ever get convicted of crimes. The question is, did the shooter have the capacity to know that this was wrong. If he snuck in, if he planned it in advance and used some kind of surreptition to get to his targets, if he planned out how to get to his mom's room and evade capter until he did so, if he took the time to hide his preparations in advance of his horrible crime... then yes, he certainly does have a mind capable of figuring out this was wrong. Legally, yes, this "sick" person was probably sane.

[Lex]

4. Hug your precious gun tightly tonight. nt

[monmouth3]

5. If the gunman was insane he shouldn't have a gun. I think the time has come to shut down the gun

sellers along with the NRA. They are a terrorist group and those with guns would have 10 days to turn their guns in until such time as they are mature enough to own them. I'm not kidding. Second amendment was written in a different time when guns were for real protection. Now, it's just pathetic.

[underoath]

8. do you know if this person legally obtained a gun or was it obtained off the black market?

how did the NRA make that person kill people?

[Whovian]

7. Yes, Gun is only two letters away from god.

[Vietnameravet]

9. Its more than just that..

Its the easy availability of guns to just about anyone that wants them..that is the problem.. and for that we can thank the NRA..

[movonne]

10. I'm so sick of this gun stuff...how do we

know who is a law abiding citizen..and was this person that did the shooting a law abiding citizen...you are law abiding citizen until your not...

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Bottom line: it's way too easy for paranoid schizophrenics to get firearms

We need far more restrictive gun control laws to prevent paranoid schizophrenics from killin g large numbers of people with guns. By your own logic, this is the case. By your own excuse - that this guy is not in his right mind - this is true. If we have every three months ort less some paranoid schizophrenic killing multiple people with firearms, then we must regulate the availability of firearms much more stringently. End of story.

[Glassunion]

21. I whole heartedly agree.

There actually are laws and funding currently in place. Compliance by the individual states is a huge problem.

If you look at the VT shooting, the shooter was ineligible to purchase, however his mental health records were not submitted into the background check system. It took all of those innocent lives for that state to start submitting records. Some states however still have not submitted records into the system at all. This needs to be fixed. Period.

[Melinda]

12. How many OP's you gonna post about guns, troll?

You need to sit down and shut the fuck up, asshole.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. Jury said "Leave Gun Troll Alone!".

At Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:54 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

holy cow are people freaking out about gun!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021979173

The reason for the alert was:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

You added the following comments:

gun troll. send to mirt

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this post at Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:49 PM, and voted 2-4 to keep it.

Thank you.

[Son of Gob]

28. That's a link to your inbox.

Copy and paste what it says please. Thanks.

[Care Acutely]

34. jury results

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: I'm sorry Melinda, although I understand your sentiment, this is a personal attack.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Very torn here. I pretty much agree with Melinda, but it is rude. And I guess standards should be applied all the time.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: He is a fucking troll. I'm not going to vote to hide the truth.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Leave it alone. Posters need to be able to speak their minds, and to call out other posters who are clearly trying to inflame the DU community by posting (repeatedly) incoherent pro-guns-everywhere-type threads. Inappropriate and insensitive OP.

[Melinda]

43. Yeah, well, I expected to be hidden and locked out. Guess this means I can really speak my mind now?

There aren't enough words.

Gun nuts can't even wait until the babies bodies have been removed from the school before they start this crap. Heartless monsters, every last one of them.

*On edit... thanks to those on the jury who agreed with me, and no hard feelings toward those who didn't. And with that, I am outta this thread cause I am not bumping this troll spam any longer

[randome]

13. If you think guns are okay, then fine. That's your opinion.

But why you would not understand that people react this way in the face of a horrible tragedy means, to me, you have little capacity for empathy.

Why would you act surprised by this? It's human nature. What you need to do is go back into your quiet corner while people grieve. Show some respect. If you don't have anything to say that will help people grieve, then you should shut up.

[jillan]

14. Take your guns and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

[WiffenPoof]

15. If This Needs To Be Explained...

...to you, there is no hope that you would understand.

Can't you wait until the bodies are no longer warm before you start defending you precious guns?

There are no words...

[JaneyVee]

16. My first ignore. Never thought I would use that feature.

[randome]

20. Low post count, multiple threads on this subject.

I doubt it will be around for much longer.

[AnOhioan]

17. Take a hike

[Saboburns]

18. Hey OP, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

And I don't. Even own a gun.

[former-republican]

22. Because it was the weapon used today

Remember the Oklahoma City bombing what was the thing focused on ? ammonium nitrate fertilizer

[cbayer]

23. Go away.

[Tsiyu]

25. Gee I wonder why the FUCK

SINCE A BUNCH OF BABIES JUST GOT SLAUGHTERED BY "GUN"


I am trying to be a better poster here, but if I weren't trying to be a better poster, I'd probably tell you to FUCK OFF right now and go caress your godamned gun and leave us in peace to grieve.

Glad you can be so casual about BABIES GETTING SLAUGHTERED BY "GUN."

[Bobbie Jo]

26. Good God, go away.

[Son of Gob]

31. +1

[dembotoz]

41. hey retro how you doing

have not seen your stuff for a while

yes you are right
the poster in question is not out to make friends here today

[JHB]

29. Now THIS is the "do not talk about this today" topic

Bring this up some other time. Today, you've got nothing.

[cynatnite]

30. Do you deny that gun proliferation in our society is at fault in any way?

Do you deny that the easy access to guns contributed to this horrific tragedy?

I'm not hearing anyone saying we should ban guns. I am hearing gun control. Two different things.

[ellisonz]

32. Jury let it stand 2-4.

Let's hope MIRT is not so forgiving!

[Javaman]

33. Really?

this is what you have to say?

Really?

your opinion, and that's all it is (thankfully), is worthless to me.

[Kalidurga]

35. holy cow are people freaking out about gun

That is the kind of op I expect to see at Free Republic. Besides the sentiment could you see anything else wrong with your op? Perhaps you should try again, with a little bit more thought.

[kysrsoze]

36. Asswipe

[Motown_Johnny]

37. This is a multi generational problem and the first step is to reduce the number

of handguns and assault weapons.


Sorry if that does not solve 200+ years of gun ownership in this country overnight. The idea is that 100 years from now things will be better, not worse.

Nothing will get better in the first 100 days and limiting your argument to that type of time frame just shows how wrong you are.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. It's the last fifty

The Wild West was nowhere close as wild as the Hollywood myth would make you believe...the last 20 are particularly bad.

[Motown_Johnny]

46. Agreed.

But the ownership society dates back to our founding.

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. But studies of wills

Show guns were a luxury good and not widely owned. Hell, they were a status symbol. Hell, people also tended to own a shotgun, more than a riffle and pistols were rare.

The last fifty they became very cheap, and ammo as well.

[joeybee12]

38. UNrec for idiotic NRA spewed crap...nt

[retread]

40. Did you sleep through High School English?

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. I get it, you love precious

I don't want to take your precious away, I just want you to undergo a safety curse and licensing every five years...and to have your gun registered...so if you should lose tract off it you are forced to call the PD. in some places you are already held responsible if precious is used in the commission of a crime...I want to make this national policy.

Oh and the gun show loopholes needs to go and the AWB needs to come back.

[SoonerPride]

44. White House.giv petition on gun control policy

please sign

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/set-date-and-time-have-conversation-about-gun-policy-united-states/gzWCnDSX

and share

[sufrommich]

47. Can we just get all of the NRA groupies off of DU?

Please?

[spanone]

48. i agree. let's BAN GUNS ALTOGETHER.

oh, you were using sarcasm....i wasn't.

[Ilsa]

52. Rec this Reply! Ban the fucking guns. nt

[msanthrope]

50. Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt

[Zoeisright]

55. Go crawl back under your rock.

Dumbshit.