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Senator John Fetterman says he believes President-elect Trump deserves a pardon for the New York hush money case.
He says the pardon of Hunter Biden was warranted because he believes it was a politically motivated prosecution, but he also thinks the New York case against Trump was also politically motivated.
Video in tweet below
3:01 PM · Dec 5, 2024
WTAF???
Link to tweet
Basso8vb
(1,230 posts)returnee
(949 posts)Sure, let him abuse the system to get himself elected. Fuck, his crime was political, not the trial and conviction.
mvd
(65,934 posts)Why though I dont know.
ananda
(35,304 posts)what happened to him?
He used to appear so decent.
BootinUp
(51,489 posts)LearnedHand
(5,534 posts)And please stop giving the orange anus ammunition.
Easterncedar
(6,388 posts)Cha
(319,647 posts)Was it politically motivated to charge him for Stealing Classified Docs, too?
Was it politicallly motivated for E Jean Carroll to Accuse him of Rape and he was found Guilty?
Sorry, that makes no sense.
Eko
(10,032 posts)But I will certainly be looking for an alternative next time.
Jit423
(1,568 posts)The next Dem President should pardon them all.
bluestarone
(22,325 posts)WTF? Will we always end up with a Manchin type? (never can count on their vote?)
Omnipresent
(7,483 posts)Then say, Oh I forgot, I cant pardon any state crimes!..
Johonny
(26,374 posts)When the charges were filed. If anything, people waited too long to charge him over politics.
Drum
(10,724 posts)Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
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JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)sociopath you fools.
Initech
(108,972 posts)You want to blame the problem, go to the source!
Celerity
(54,685 posts)ALBliberal
(3,364 posts)hospitalization? Through the dress code issue?
Man oh man. Go pound sand Fetterman.
Hopefully he will be challenged by a real Democrat.
Shell_Seas
(3,567 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,438 posts)He's not. Never was. Flying a pride flag and advocating for marijuana legalization doesn't make it so. He's the new Manchin, but v. 2.0 comes with more bluster and media savvy. Expect lots more horrible things from him, and then he'll be re-elected with massive AIPAC funding. Probably be Majority Leader someday.
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)Well now I know better.
Celerity
(54,685 posts)see here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219792084#post40
He is a chameleon, a trojan horse. He is well down the road to being the new Sinema.
Celerity
(54,685 posts)John Fetterman is running for Senate in Pennsylvania, one of the most expensive races in the country. He wants to know when the political revolution starts.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/04/john-fettermans-senate-campaign-needs-bernie-sanders-help.html
April 19, 2016
John Fetterman, the populist mayor and long-shot Democratic Senate candidate, was one of the first elected officials in the country to endorse Bernie Sanders for president. He is, like Sanders, a political outsider. A tattooed giant6-foot-8, more than 300 poundshes spent the past 11 years presiding over Braddock, Pennsylvania, a largely black town outside Pittsburgh that was wrecked by the collapse of the local steel industry. Income inequality is at the center of his campaign. I think theres a great deal of overlap between Sanders platform and his own, he tells me, whether its a $15-an-hour living wage or health care, trade deals, a rigged economy. Ideologically, the only real difference between the two men is that Fetterman is more in favor of gun control. He has the date of every homicide in Braddock since his electionnine in allinked on his right arm.
In February, the New Republic described Fetterman as part of Bernies army, a generation of Democratic candidates creating a progressive revolution from within. Like Sanders, Fetterman has raised most of the money for his primary online, from small-dollar donors. Hes in a three-way primary race against Joe Sestak, the defeated Democratic Senate candidate in 2010, and Katie McGinty, who has the backing of much of the national Democratic establishment. Fettermans criticism of McGinty echoes Sanders case against Hillary Clinton. When she ran less than two years ago, she was for $9 an hour instead of $15, he says, referring to the minimum wage. She brought fracking to Pennsylvania, and she also supported NAFTA. She has a massive financial advantage in what is currently the most expensive Senate race in the country, with more than $17 million already spent.

Given the money and political power stacked against him, Fetterman says he needs Sanders help to have any chance next Tuesday, the same day as the Pennsylvania presidential primary. So far, however, it has not been forthcoming. Theres been no endorsement, no fundraising support, no joint appearances. Fettermans campaign finds this confounding. On the ground, he says, theres enormous overlap between his supporters and the Sanders grassroots. (The crowd at the Fishtown brewpub is young, liberal, urban. They rave about Sandersand Fetterman, says a recent Philadelphia Inquirer story.) In a three-way race, he believes, Sanders backing could be decisive; Fetterman estimates that hell win if he gets 60 or 70 percent of Sanders voters.
Right now, that seems unlikely; a poll from early April had him at 9 percent of the vote, with 66 percent saying they havent recently seen, read, or heard anything about him, and 63 percent saying they didnt know what his ideology was. The only ray of hope: When people had heard about him, what they heard made them like him more. Lacking the resources to get on the airwaves, hes doing as much retail campaigning as he can, including going to Sanders rallies to talk to voters one on one. (The Sanders campaign didnt respond to a request for comment.) To me, Pennsylvania represents the perfectly framed battle within the party war of 2016, Fetterman tells me. Untold millions in outside money and establishment endorsements versus the will of Sanders grassroots supporters who could, quite literally, pick the next nominee in this state. That nominee, badly outspent, represents a decimated steel town on societys economic fringe.
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John Fetterman Endorses Bernie Sanders
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)If I had been in the position of voting for him in a primary, I like to think I would have done more research.
Celerity
(54,685 posts)from limited to just this subject at hand) to becoming, as DUer tenderfoot brilliantly labelled him, Hoodie Sinema.
Blaukraut
(6,000 posts)Fetterman is an opportunist. That's it. Nothing sinister about it. He saw PA shifting right, and he adjusted accordingly. If the midterms show a shift leftward, he will follow suit.
Bettie
(19,788 posts)and were apparently incorrect in that.
617Blue
(2,526 posts)Trying to play it both ways ain't gonna work.
alarimer
(17,146 posts)This is tone-deaf and wrong.
Not sure what his deal is these days. Is he taking up the Joe Manchin mantle?
Passages
(4,291 posts)Wow, talk about disappointing.
brush
(61,033 posts)That's pure rethug spew.
Ocelot II
(130,860 posts)And even if he could, fuck Fetterman for suggesting it.
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)This is just the latest.
Rebl2
(17,846 posts)was he elected?
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)I used to think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Rebl2
(17,846 posts)it up (dont know why I didnt in the first place). He was elected 2022 and took his seat in January of 2023. A while before he runs again, if he does run again.
BeerBarrelPolka
(2,173 posts)As a man who has personally suffered a stroke last December and am currently dealing with a myriad of health problems and an uncertain future, I have a vested interest in this. Trump is threatening to cut SS as well as Medicaid/Medicare. So I fervently say, go fuck yourself Fetterman.
IcyPeas
(25,614 posts)These are fairweather friends.
Susan Calvin
(2,452 posts)choie
(6,949 posts)Worried about his own ass being in trumps crosshairs of retribution. Coward.
surfered
(13,814 posts)Michael Cohen, was found guilty for his part in the same crime.. Trump's Chief Financial Officer, Allen Weisselberg, was also found guilty of falsifying business records and you know Weisselberg didn't do that without Trump's knowledge. If Trump thinks he's being singled out, maybe he should stop criming.
La Coliniere
(1,956 posts)but with a new kind of droopy look. Such a disappointment.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,081 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2024, 04:06 AM - Edit history (1)
And B cant pardon that one afaik. Crazy times for many now. Orange psycho should never be pardoned for anything he did
if you cant hold him accountable it is what it is now but no one should pardon him.
Im disappointed to hear him say this. Im sure were going to hear other d saying this too since some have already.
tonekat
(2,550 posts)Brenda
(2,077 posts)I still can't believe people on DU thought he was cool when he said he should be able to wear shorts and flip flops into the Senate chambers.
At the same time people were so indignant that Jordan didn't wear a suit jacket and rolled his sleeves up, sometimes.
Why do Dems keep defending such awful people?
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)SunImp
(2,720 posts)BootinUp
(51,489 posts)Of ending his crime spree.
And it is this proposal that is political.
a kennedy
(36,115 posts)Do not care what he says ANYMORE ..off my list. 🤬 🤬 🤬
republianmushroom
(22,449 posts)A judge said he was 'GUILTY' as per the evident presented. It was political that he wasn't prosecuted sooner. Sounding more like a repuke everyday.
peregrinus
(409 posts)choie
(6,949 posts)Fuck him.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Bettie
(19,788 posts)Should be "fun". Wait, no, the opposite of that.
SunImp
(2,720 posts)"You're going to miss him when he is gone." Or "Actually the people attacking him are in the wrong" from these losers. I mean there is already a few Thank you Fetterman threads by these same people.
I expect that we will.
Celerity
(54,685 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Takket
(23,749 posts)Picaro
(2,401 posts)nini
(16,831 posts)Something about him set off my street smarts.
walkingman
(10,985 posts)pink
(532 posts)He's carrying on like Jared Moscowitz. Fetterman is starting to become an embarrassment and Jared Moscowitz is sounding like his family is being held hostage unless he sucks up to the MAGAs.
Vinca
(54,153 posts)It's a shame we don't have any hush money payments to deduct as legal fees.
spanone
(141,854 posts)Emile
(42,676 posts)To be honest, it's beyond being a centrist. He's a criminal enabler.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)FWIW, I always knew Fetterman was problematic ever since he pulled that shotgun on a black jogger minding his own business, but I also knew we desperately needed a Dem in that seat...
Now y'all see why I'm so paranoid about not knowing who to trust after Donnie's coronation... Damn near everyone who used to "resist" is crossing over to embrace Dear Leader as our "new normal", and it really fucking scares me.
Wiz Imp
(10,185 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2024, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)
For those of you equating Fetterman with Manchin, please cite all of the votes he has made against Democratic priorities? Or name any legislation which he has helped scuttle because he wasn't on board with the rest of the Democrats in the Senate?
Look, I strongly disagree with him here. I actually watched his entire appearance on the view and disagreed with the vast majority of what he said there. I've been disappointed with a number of things he has said in the past year. But so far he's only disappointed me in some of his public statements. I'm not aware of a single "bad" vote he has made or any democratic priority legislation he has opposed. (Correct me if I'm wrong). Until he does actual damage to Democratic legislative priorities, comparing him to Manchin or Sinema is ridiculous.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)He still votes the right way.
Polybius
(22,005 posts)Any idea how he stands on the filibuster?
Wiz Imp
(10,185 posts)However I found these:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/10/politics/john-fetterman-filibuster-senate-race/index.html
John Fetterman wants Democrats to stop wasting time and eliminate the filibuster
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/12/packed-rally-fetterman-vows-be-vote-scrap-filibuster-and-codify-roe
At Packed Rally, Fetterman Vows to 'Be That Vote to Scrap the Filibuster and Codify Roe'
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/02/fetterman-taps-person-who-literally-wrote-book-killing-senate-filibuster-chief-staff
Fetterman Taps Person Who Literally Wrote the Book on Killing Senate Filibuster as Chief of Staff
I don't believe he has changed his mind.
Cha
(319,647 posts)Doesn't hold water.
dlk
(13,289 posts)n/t
bucolic_frolic
(55,454 posts)This to soften GOP hard-liners?
I have no idea.
Emile
(42,676 posts)diane in sf
(4,249 posts)City Lights
(25,932 posts)The felon has gotten away with criming his entire adult life. It's long past time for him to be held accountable.
GoreWon2000
(1,461 posts)This is why the Democratic party is where it is right now. All they can come up with is appeasement of Dictator Trump and bringing a sling shot to the fight while the repugs divide and conquer and bring AK-47s to the fight. Appeasement of Dictator Hitler didn't work for Neville Chamberlin and it won't work now. This don't fight back by dems must stop!
Hassler
(4,934 posts)Will always be a Joe Mansion. Fetter man wants that role.
Cirsium
(3,994 posts)Seriously?
Thrill
(19,342 posts)😂😂 Unreal
Im about done with Politics