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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,453 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:07 PM Dec 2024

Billionaire Vivek Tells Federal Workers Getting Fired Will Be Good For Them

The new pick to head the non-existent department of government efficiency, billionaire Vivek Ramaswamy, told a gathering at the Aspen Security Forum that laying off federal workers will be "good for many of the individuals who make a transition from government service back to the private sector."

Vivek also said he doesn't believe "that the highest and best use of any of those talented people is what they're doing in the federal government today."

Ramaswamy, along with his co-chair of the fake department, richest man in the world Elon Musk, have promised to lay off half the federal workforce and cut $2 trillion from the federal budget. Ramaswamy also admitted in the forum that laying off millions of federal employees isn't about saving money but about an "overgrown federal government that is doing things that were never supposed to be done by the federal government in the first place."

With the U.S. at 4% unemployment and private sector employment essentially full, it is unclear what jobs Ramaswamy thinks will be available for the millions of American workers he is pushing to make unemployed.

https://meidasnews.com/news/billionaire-vivek-tells-federal-workers-getting-fired-will-be-good-for-them

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Billionaire Vivek Tells Federal Workers Getting Fired Will Be Good For Them (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2024 OP
He shows contempt for those of us who chose public service Redleg Dec 2024 #1
Vivek would have been let go before his probationary period ended underpants Dec 2024 #11
I'm not saying that people like this POS may MontanaMama Dec 2024 #2
Who does this little weasel think he is? dlk Dec 2024 #3
Fuck this guy. alarimer Dec 2024 #4
There's little profit in the projects the Federal Government does. haele Dec 2024 #9
The billionaires think they can privatize all these services, then fire people. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #13
Yes, but privatizing government services is always more expensive. alarimer Dec 2024 #19
The obvious goal is to make DC a ghost town. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #24
But they aren't making money for him so they are useless. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #25
The ones that do have private equivalents often result from the Federal Government genxlib Dec 2024 #29
When they're unemployed he'll call them lazy, DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 2024 #5
Do you really think that they plan Bettie Dec 2024 #36
How much is he expecting to take in personally on this boondoggle. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2024 #6
Federal budget is about $7 Trillion a year. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #17
G.O.P. Billionaire Bros get off pissing on the proles BoRaGard Dec 2024 #7
Once the services governmental employees are privatized. magicarpet Dec 2024 #8
Project 2025's Russell Voght said that their goal MontanaMama Dec 2024 #14
Russel's a good Christian boy. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #27
Whose beliefs are as far from the purported Bettie Dec 2024 #37
Fuck him obamanut2012 Dec 2024 #10
They are really after benefits underpants Dec 2024 #12
Yes. and those benefits are meant to keep good employees from fleeing to travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #28
I will never understand how anyone Diamond_Dog Dec 2024 #15
God, Guns, Gays, and Abortion Deep State Witch Dec 2024 #33
"Civil Service" once had a meaning that the likes of Musk and Vivek will never understand. Jit423 Dec 2024 #16
He Must Be Really Bad Ar Math ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #18
He's not a billionaire. tenderfoot Dec 2024 #20
This guy who got a total of a vote and a half in the retrumplican primary is telling us how things 'aughta be... Hugin Dec 2024 #21
My new name for Vivek: Fuzzy Math-aswamy. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 2024 #22
How about Ramaswampy? patphil Dec 2024 #31
Sure, that works too! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 2024 #34
I like "Ramasmarmy" Redleg Dec 2024 #35
And slaves benefited from slavery. moondust Dec 2024 #23
Funny how "tough love" always seems to emphasize the "tough" without much love... Wounded Bear Dec 2024 #26
So they want to deport over 10 million immigrants and fire millions of federal workers? patphil Dec 2024 #30
Sounds Like What They're Going To Do Deep State Witch Dec 2024 #32
I wonder if being vivisected with a chain saw would be good for Vivek struggle4progress Dec 2024 #38
Federal government isn't supposed to make a profit. Now pardon me while I heave on him. Hekate Dec 2024 #39
There will be an impact on State and County programs as a result Mossfern Dec 2024 #40
How about Rebl2 Dec 2024 #41

MontanaMama

(24,734 posts)
2. I'm not saying that people like this POS may
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:10 PM
Dec 2024

have targets on their backs for saying things like this...but if it happened, I wouldn't be surprised.

dlk

(13,289 posts)
3. Who does this little weasel think he is?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:12 PM
Dec 2024

He apparently doesn’t have a life. Otherwise he wouldn’t be so hyper-focused on harming others. Like Musk, all of his riches haven’t bought him happiness or peace of mind.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
4. Fuck this guy.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:12 PM
Dec 2024

Most of the people working for the federal government are doing jobs with no functional equivalent in the private sector: fisheries biologist, meteorologists, infectious disease specialist, park rangers. They are dedicated professionals. Vivek and his ilk have no fucking clue.

haele

(15,477 posts)
9. There's little profit in the projects the Federal Government does.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:20 PM
Dec 2024

However, there's a lot of profit resulting in or supporting the projects the Federal Government does for the common good.

The only folks who don't profit a lot from the Federal Government are the actual Federal Employees.

Haele

Irish_Dem

(81,896 posts)
13. The billionaires think they can privatize all these services, then fire people.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:29 PM
Dec 2024

Then pocket the cash.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
19. Yes, but privatizing government services is always more expensive.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:40 PM
Dec 2024

Employees will be paid even less (and federal employees don't make a mint). BUT the companies take their cut first. And everything gets worse.

It will also completely devastate economies of Virginia and Maryland, as well as DC.

Irish_Dem

(81,896 posts)
24. The obvious goal is to make DC a ghost town.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:34 AM
Dec 2024

Fire most of the federal workers and then move what is left to good forsaken spots in red states.

Yes privatizing means the billionaires make hue profits.
So of course it is more expensive to the customers.

It is a scam and rip off.

genxlib

(6,152 posts)
29. The ones that do have private equivalents often result from the Federal Government
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:46 AM
Dec 2024

If there are private equivalent...

They are often funded by the government through grants or procurement

or

Are hired to perform functions in response to regulations such as wetlands permitting

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,438 posts)
5. When they're unemployed he'll call them lazy,
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:17 PM
Dec 2024

parasites, people undeserving of benefits like unemployment (which I'm sure he'll lobby to abolish). Oligarchic pigs are so predictable.

Bettie

(19,788 posts)
36. Do you really think that they plan
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:29 PM
Dec 2024

for unemployment benefits to even BE available anymore?

Remember, the people who will be in charge of things have NEVER once wondered if they can stretch a paycheck until the next one, never had to take a calculator to the grocery store to make sure they had enough money, never had to eat ramen and peanut butter for that last week of the month...and it shows.

Wonder when the last time that any of them had to interact with an ordinary person who wasn't serving them.

greatauntoftriplets

(179,188 posts)
6. How much is he expecting to take in personally on this boondoggle.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:18 PM
Dec 2024

Losing your income isn't exactly fun and games.

Irish_Dem

(81,896 posts)
17. Federal budget is about $7 Trillion a year.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:36 PM
Dec 2024

We can assume the billionaires are quite eager to get their hands on that pile of money asap.

magicarpet

(18,961 posts)
8. Once the services governmental employees are privatized.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:19 PM
Dec 2024

The government workers let go by Eloon and Vivek will now be free to go out into the hot sun and pick the lettuce that migrant workers used to pick and box for the grocery stores.

Wages and benefits might take a major hit,.... but that is free market capitalism.

MontanaMama

(24,734 posts)
14. Project 2025's Russell Voght said that their goal
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:30 PM
Dec 2024

was to put EPA employees and other civil servants into "deep trauma". This is beyond disturbing. I don't know how they can be stopped.

https://www.propublica.org/article/video-donald-trump-russ-vought-center-renewing-america-maga


obamanut2012

(29,442 posts)
10. Fuck him
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:23 PM
Dec 2024

I have been in public service for decades, and have always worked with earnest, smart, hard-working people, working for teh public good. Guess making money for him is more important than the public good.

underpants

(196,855 posts)
12. They are really after benefits
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:26 PM
Dec 2024

Public section jobs have always had really good (massive scale collectively bargained) benefits. It’s a huge selling point even if the pay isn’t that great.

That’s what they are after.

travelingthrulife

(5,376 posts)
28. Yes. and those benefits are meant to keep good employees from fleeing to
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:39 AM
Dec 2024

the private sector.

This is going to be unimaginably tragic.

Deep State Witch

(12,740 posts)
33. God, Guns, Gays, and Abortion
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 01:56 PM
Dec 2024

They fire up the culture wars to distract the masses from the oligarchs.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
16. "Civil Service" once had a meaning that the likes of Musk and Vivek will never understand.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:33 PM
Dec 2024

People who hate the Feds because of what they say are too many regulations just want the private sector to have free reign on employees with no protections whatsoever. A lot of very meaningful projects were built with a civil service made right after WWII. Those projects made it possible for lots of people to live in the states like TN, TX, LA, UT, and more.

ProfessorGAC

(77,006 posts)
18. He Must Be Really Bad Ar Math
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:37 PM
Dec 2024

There are around 2 million civilian employees of the federal government.
Half that workforce is a million.
To save $2 trillion, each employee would carry a total cash load of $2 million, EACH.
I think those employees would be quite surprised that their total compensation and carrying costs are that high. It would mean they all make $1.8 million per year!
The guy is discussing a fictitious government function using fictitious numbers to get a fictitious cost analysis.
Or maybe he just can't multiply & divide.

Hugin

(37,920 posts)
21. This guy who got a total of a vote and a half in the retrumplican primary is telling us how things 'aughta be...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:49 PM
Dec 2024

What's this billionaire crap. Cash out, Vivek. Let's see the money.

Redleg

(6,990 posts)
35. I like "Ramasmarmy"
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:15 PM
Dec 2024

I wonder if these assholes are just seeking more attention. "Look at me, I'm important because I'm incredibly wealthy." I like Paul Krugman's recent characterization of their ilk as "...billionaires who don't feel sufficiently admired."

patphil

(9,144 posts)
30. So they want to deport over 10 million immigrants and fire millions of federal workers?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 12:40 PM
Dec 2024

And add a massive tariff on foreign goods sold here?
Oh, and cut back on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Veterans Benefits.
That will crater our economy big time; possible actual depression.
It would also push the world economy over the edge.
If all this is done, there will be riots in the streets, massive civil disobedience, mass arrests, and perhaps a whole bunch of people getting killed.
This is the future Trump promises for America.
He is in the process of setting up the team that will do all this.
Ramaswampy is just another billionaire who couldn't care less what the cost to America is, as long as he gets to tear it down his way.

Deep State Witch

(12,740 posts)
32. Sounds Like What They're Going To Do
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 01:54 PM
Dec 2024

Is fire all of those people with clearances and specialties, then make them go out to Federal contracting companies to find work doing the same thing they were doing in the government. Without the retirement and good benefits. "Oh, you're an agricultural specialist working on climate-resistant wheat? Tough shit. Go work at McDonalds."

struggle4progress

(126,462 posts)
38. I wonder if being vivisected with a chain saw would be good for Vivek
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:42 PM
Dec 2024

It might be character-building experience

Mossfern

(4,734 posts)
40. There will be an impact on State and County programs as a result
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:59 PM
Dec 2024

I worked for the equivalent of a Welfare to Work program at the County level, that got its funding from the State which I think was reliant of Federal funding. I know that all my work was monitored by the State.
If Federal employees are fired and State funds are cut, the State workers will lose their jobs and then, down the line, County workers - so vastly MORE unemployed.

On top of that, the people who use/need the resources that the County provides will lose all educational and training programs and supports like child care, food stamps and transportation. And THEN Republicans will call these clients lazy and cut any more resources that they may need.

Ugh!

Rebl2

(17,847 posts)
41. How about
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 06:03 PM
Dec 2024

this Vivek. No salary for the President or senator’s and cut the pay of representatives in congress. Smaller salaries for cabinet members. No firing of federal employees unless they are not doing their job.

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