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LeftInTX

(34,853 posts)
1. Ugh....He's a hero?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 03:29 AM
Dec 2024

Too many people think that.

I remember everyone on DU thought Edward Snowden was a hero. It was pretty annoying. Until it was revealed that Snowden was a Trumper. After that he was public enemy.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
3. I don't think Snowden is a Trumper
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 05:53 AM
Dec 2024

He chose liberals to go through and publish the documents he exposed.

marble falls

(72,544 posts)
6. Two different kinds of crime, though I find claiming Russian intellegence as a liberal force a bit of a stretch.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:11 AM
Dec 2024
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
13. I was talking about Glenn Greenwald, his husband, and Laura whatshername
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:13 PM
Dec 2024

Greenwald was also writing for the Guardian at that time. I think Snowden ended up in Russia simply because they gave him refuge.

MadameButterfly

(4,165 posts)
2. I've been having this weird feeling
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 03:30 AM
Dec 2024

of hoping the assassin doesn't get caught.

I'm really not for vigilantes, no matter what. But it's so easy to understand where he's coming from.
This artwork also evokes a lot of conflicting feelings. Strange world we are living in.

marble falls

(72,544 posts)
5. I want him caught. Let him make his claims at a hearing in front of a jury. Potting people in the streets ...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:08 AM
Dec 2024

... toooo MAGA-y for my tastes. I like the Constitution, I want Due Process for everyone, including healthcare executives and their murderers.

MadameButterfly

(4,165 posts)
14. yes, of course. If murder is seen as the solution for anything
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 08:47 AM
Dec 2024

it will mostly be done by bad people to good people. The MAGAs have a lot of violent people with guns.
But I would also like due process for the victims of the health care industry.

marble falls

(72,544 posts)
4. Right. Who needs the Constitution and Due Process rights, antways. This was the sort of thing MAGAs would pull.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:05 AM
Dec 2024

ck4829

(38,093 posts)
7. Unfortunately, the case of Nataline Sarkisyan shows us what "due process" gets us
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:15 AM
Dec 2024

Nataline Mary Sarkisyan (July 10, 1990 – December 20, 2007) was an American teenager with recurrent leukemia. Her case became part of the health care reform debate in the United States in 2007 when Cigna HealthCare denied coverage for a liver transplant operation. The company later reversed its decision after a great deal of media attention to her story, but Sarkisyan died hours later.

Sarkisyan's family retained attorney Mark Geragos to sue Cigna, and requested that Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley file murder charges against the insurer. The case was thrown out due to a Pilot Life Ins. Co. v. Dedeaux, 1987 U.S. Supreme Court ruling shielding employer-paid healthcare plans from damages over their coverage decisions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Nataline_Sarkisyan

ck4829

(38,093 posts)
10. Is it? What is? And no, "I don't know", "do nothing", "let's wait 4 years" are not the answers either
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 01:55 PM
Dec 2024

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