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highplainsdem

(62,145 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:41 AM Dec 2024

Ruth Ben-Ghiat: Musk is not a conservative. He is a far-right extremist shaped by apartheid, infantile and fascistic

fantasies of dominating the universe and an authoritarian family culture & personality.


It's clear enough to me. Musk is not a conservative. He is a far-right extremist shaped by apartheid, infantile and fascistic fantasies of dominating the universe and an authoritarian family culture & personality.

Ruth Ben-Ghiat (@ruthbenghiat.bsky.social) 2024-12-06T12:34:28.326Z
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Ruth Ben-Ghiat: Musk is not a conservative. He is a far-right extremist shaped by apartheid, infantile and fascistic (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2024 OP
Ruth Ben-Ghiat is right, but she suffers from the Cassandra Curse--she speaks the truth, but Timeflyer Dec 2024 #1
Oh, they believe her... They just see it as a plus. nt Shipwack Dec 2024 #10
Actually, you are right. They want authoritarianism. Timeflyer Dec 2024 #18
They need their daddy... OhioBack2Blue Dec 2024 #29
Elon Musk, the world's richest eugenicist, has taken over Rupert Murdoch's top spot on the list of the most sop Dec 2024 #2
I don't call him the apartheid kid for nothing nt Javaman Dec 2024 #3
Apartheid Clyde. madinmaryland Dec 2024 #5
I call him and Thiel "the apartheid bros" nt hvn_nbr_2 Dec 2024 #14
True... lonely bird Dec 2024 #4
"They are quasi-fascist, neo-fascist, Christofascist..." Buns_of_Fire Dec 2024 #24
Yep. Here's the clip Cyrano Dec 2024 #41
South African trash 4catsmom Dec 2024 #6
And don't forget genius anchor babies from Slovenia. rubbersole Dec 2024 #37
The only... 2naSalit Dec 2024 #40
Well, obviously... Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #7
Yup Magoo48 Dec 2024 #8
So much respect... Mike 03 Dec 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2024 #32
Agreed yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #35
I don't know what it is about Musk's voice but Farmer-Rick Dec 2024 #11
He has a lazy mouth. BonnieJW Dec 2024 #12
Yeah, exactly Farmer-Rick Dec 2024 #13
He's an AI bot and they have don't have the settings right yet. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #27
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. He wants to and thinks he can be the 1st American dictator. PortTack Dec 2024 #15
Looks like his wish has come true. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #28
Oh, a Bond Villain. Great! surfered Dec 2024 #16
There is a permanent electrical storm in Leon's brain. dchill Dec 2024 #17
True. Martin68 Dec 2024 #19
Musk says estranged child's gender-affirming care sparked fight against 'woke mind virus'... AntiFascist Dec 2024 #20
THIS malaise Dec 2024 #21
K&R ad infinitum UTUSN Dec 2024 #22
He seems to have a feudalistic sense of being entitled to mass labor. paulkienitz Dec 2024 #23
Fellow is having a midlife crisis Tweedy Dec 2024 #25
Great... & he Owns TSF. Cha Dec 2024 #26
Eloon is a straight up nazi. OverBurn Dec 2024 #30
Of course he is. GoYouPackersGo Dec 2024 #31
The shadow of apartheid South Africa in America. usonian Dec 2024 #33
I saw him parading around the Capitol with his tiny child on his shoulders. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #34
Some video clips I've seen of his interactions with that child are very worrisome. highplainsdem Dec 2024 #42
A meme he tweeted yesterday was a perfect example of what I said above, in reply 42: highplainsdem Dec 2024 #43
it's hard to tell who is the more sick piece of shit Skittles Dec 2024 #36
Musk's Efficiency Team Is A Joke DallasNE Dec 2024 #38
Aside from the "shaped by apartheid" bit, that makes him no different from anyone else in this administration. Karasu Dec 2024 #39

Timeflyer

(3,757 posts)
1. Ruth Ben-Ghiat is right, but she suffers from the Cassandra Curse--she speaks the truth, but
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:58 AM
Dec 2024

nobody (well, MAGAts and Orange Shitstain cult members) believes her warnings.

OhioBack2Blue

(107 posts)
29. They need their daddy...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 05:39 PM
Dec 2024

to tell them what to do. Rugged individualists my ass!

LOL!

Bunch of big cosplaying wussies.

sop

(18,623 posts)
2. Elon Musk, the world's richest eugenicist, has taken over Rupert Murdoch's top spot on the list of the most
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:58 AM
Dec 2024

despicable foreign billionaires in America.

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
4. True...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:06 AM
Dec 2024

That being said, virtually none of the Republican Party is conservative.

They are quasi-fascist, neo-fascist, Christofascist, anti-American reactionaries, period.

And like everyone they stand on the shoulders of those who went before them like Leo Strauss, Russell Kirk, William F. Buckley, Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
24. "They are quasi-fascist, neo-fascist, Christofascist..."
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 04:41 PM
Dec 2024

This is the point where Gene Wilder* might pause and add "you know... Nazis".

( * Blazing Saddles reference, )

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
9. So much respect...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:18 AM
Dec 2024

One of my fears was that people like Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Timothy Snyder, Anne Applebaum, Jason Stanley, a few others who saw this coming from a mile a way and tried to tell everyone would go silent once this worst-case scenario happened. Some of them have dual citizenship in other countries. I worried they would flee.

They are staying and speaking out, and for that I am utterly grateful.

Response to Mike 03 (Reply #9)

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
11. I don't know what it is about Musk's voice but
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:45 AM
Dec 2024

I can't understand half of what that filthy-rich idiot says. Every time Musk speaks, I have to reconstruct his words in my head to understand what he's saying.

He mumbles and pushes the words around in his weird large mouth so that by the time they come out, I can't understand what he's saying.

No it's not his accent. I understand people with accents just fine. At first he just sounds like a fool who can't find the words but when the words finally come out they are unintelligible to me.

He puts accents on the wrong syllables. His enunciation
is garbled. He drops and lowers his voice inflection in the wrong places. Just when you think he's
finished a sentence you realize he's in the middle of it.

So, I have to repeat the words in my head again to make out his weird communication style.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
13. Yeah, exactly
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:26 AM
Dec 2024

But then on top of it he pauses in the middle of constructing a sentence. Then you have to go back and recall what he has just said to get a full thought out the mumbling. It's exhausting.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
15. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. He wants to and thinks he can be the 1st American dictator.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:51 AM
Dec 2024

dchill

(42,660 posts)
17. There is a permanent electrical storm in Leon's brain.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 12:05 PM
Dec 2024

First, it burned out his moral compass.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
20. Musk says estranged child's gender-affirming care sparked fight against 'woke mind virus'...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 03:40 PM
Dec 2024
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2024/07/22/elon-musk-jordan-peterson-interview/74506785007/

This was likely one event that triggered his final descent into the black hole of the Far Right.

GoYouPackersGo

(233 posts)
31. Of course he is.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:14 PM
Dec 2024

So, perfect as a member of Trump's administration, especially for a made up position.

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
34. I saw him parading around the Capitol with his tiny child on his shoulders.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:39 PM
Dec 2024

So inappropriate. And absolutely infantile.

Ruth Ben Ghiat always offers great analysis.

highplainsdem

(62,145 posts)
42. Some video clips I've seen of his interactions with that child are very worrisome.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:54 AM
Dec 2024

And I hope the boy will grow up psychologically healthy despite his father. But what I've read about Musk's relationships with the mothers of his children hasn't been reassuring.

Musk seems to view the boy as a combination Mini Me princeling, pet and trophy (fathering children is an obsession with him). Just the bizarre name chosen for this boy comes across as a selfish publicity stunt, rather than giving a child a name that will help him.

I hope to God that boy and his young siblings all get some normal loving care, from both women and men, away from Musk. Healthy, normal role models.

IMO Musk parading around the Capitol with the boy wasn't so much "take your child to work" as "even my 4-year-old child is much more important than you lawmakers."

I think Musk probably believes he's being a great father. But he's so messed up himself.

USA Today article on what narcissists can do to their children:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/08/15/narcissism-and-parenting-narcissistic-parents-cast-kids-into-roles/70591780007/

Two of the most common roles narcissists force their kids into are the golden child and the scapegoat.


Little X is the golden child.

Musk's trans daughter Vivian is the scapegoat.

highplainsdem

(62,145 posts)
43. A meme he tweeted yesterday was a perfect example of what I said above, in reply 42:
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 10:51 AM
Dec 2024






And his tweet directly below that said

Doge & Minidoge


DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
38. Musk's Efficiency Team Is A Joke
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 03:47 AM
Dec 2024

He thinks countinks counting key strokes is the answer. That gives equal power to every keystroke. That’s not how it works. And that’s not all the vast majority of what government workers do. What an idiot.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
39. Aside from the "shaped by apartheid" bit, that makes him no different from anyone else in this administration.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 04:19 AM
Dec 2024
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