Are we now in favor of the death penalty?

[Patton French]

Crazy times.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. No. Never.

For those who follow "the Bible", show me an exception to the "Don't kill" commandment that allows for a death penalty.

[dpibel]

4. Really?

Am I understanding you correctly that you are asking for authority in the Bible for capital punishment?

If that is the case:

“Whoever takes a human life shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 24:17

“Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death.
Exodus 21:12

“If anyone kills a person, the murderer shall be put to death on the evidence of witnesses. But no person shall be put to death on the testimony of one witness. Moreover, you shall accept no ransom for the life of a murderer, who is guilty of death, but he shall be put to death.
Numbers 35:30-31

I assuredly don't follow the Bible, but just thought I'd try to help.

[Think. Again.]

19. Well done...

...there's also a bit about eyes or something if I remember correctly.

[dpibel]

44. Not what the poster asked

The poster asked for Biblical exceptions to "Thou shalt not kill."

There are many.

Not to mention:

"I come not to bring peace, but a sword" --Jesus

[Crunchy Frog]

22. You mean in addition to the entire rest of the Bible?

Please forgive me if that post was intended as sarcasm or satire.

[PufPuf23]

23. God is responsible for multiple murders and genocides in the OT nt

[Ping Tung]

2. Nope. It's barbarism.

[rsdsharp]

3. No. Years ago I suggested to people in favor of the death penalty,

that we should vote on it, and suspend the Australian ballot. If it passed, everybody who voted for it should be entered into a lottery to see who the executioner should be.

I stopped doing so because universally, those in favor of the death penalty had to have “Australian ballot” explained to them.

[Dennis Donovan]

5. No. n/t

[sarisataka]

6. We have always had

A pro-death penalty contingent. It is just expanding to individuals executing people. In certain cases...

[Iggo]

7. Never.

[Skittles]

8. and with no due process

[nycbos]

9. What is this in reference to?

[Kaleva]

11. The execution without trial of the CEO I think

[hlthe2b]

36. Such hyperbolic bullshit. He was murdered. Conflating that (which is not condoned) with death penalty by the State--

which most of us oppose as well is just absolute disingenuous bullshit--for attention and a feeble false attempt to render oneself superior/more sanctimonious than others.

Not you. I'm talking about the original claim.

[ThePartyThatListens]

40. I agree

All this weeping, wailing, caterwauling and self-flagelation over that scumbag is getting ridiculous now.

Sheesh!

[Prairie Gates]

43. Yeah, it's pretty pouty as argumentation

[Skittles]

12. likely the glee over someone being shot in the back

just a guess

[nycbos]

13. Got it. Temporary brain fart on my part.

[BOSSHOG]

10. I've never been in favor of the death penalty

But, on a case by case basis, I’ve often wondered whether a defendant would rather have the death penalty than life without parole. But I do not think a defendant should have such a choice.

[Think. Again.]

24. I actually DO think a person facing life in prison should be given a suicide option.

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...our justice system is not meant to give society revenge, it's meant to punish in the hope of correcting people to be able to live among others when they get out, or, in worse case scenarios, to secure people who are hopelessly dangerous to others.

Allowing lifers to choose suicide serves that same purpose without making us all guilty of doing harm in return for the harm that was originally done.

I know, I'm a dreamer, our justice system doesn't work like that in reality, but it also doesn't work to protect us from the harms being commited by people like that insurance salesman who got himself killed.

[nycbos]

14. I'm against the death penalty.

I also don't condone vigilante justice. However, I'm not in any way mourning the death of the United CEO. There is a difference. My own family has a history with United Health with both my mother's and my aunt's best cancer treatment. Thankfully, they are both OK. I'm thinking of the others who weren't so lucky.

[nolabear]

15. Of course not. But that's not what this is.

In reality it’s murder. Pure and simple. But it’s also a conduit for expression of rage at the helplessness and suffering people have experienced at the hands of insurance companies. Soldiers kill people too, those accused of committing heinous acts in the name of something that would defeat us or those we love. I’m sorry the man was killed. I also understand the rage and wish someone would think again about imposing such suffering.Not the shooter (yes, he should pay) but the execs who put money before suffering people.

[Think. Again.]

16. Not me!!!

I stand firmly against the insurance industry inflicting death on people as a penalty for their lack of financial resources!!!

[Bettie]

17. Nope

is it so hard to imagine that there might be some people for whom some of us can't muster up much (any) sympathy?

[H2O Man]

18. No.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. I think it's more that some of us are comfortable

with things that we might regard as karma.

[Think. Again.]

21. The thing about the death penalty is...

...the last executioner always gets off scot-free.

[Fla_Democrat]

25. It's been my observation that...

It's been my observation that people are not against the death penalty, they just disagree on what should be a capital crime.

[Mark.b2]

26. Yes, in limited circumstances and administered by the government.

Direct evidence only (no circumstantial) for murder. I could proabably be persuaded to support it for the worst kinds of child sexual abuse.

I’m opposed to it in most applications we see nowadays. There’s no appeal if it were carried out incorrectly; thus, the need for direct evidence.

I have no issue if it’s never used, either.

[Tetrachloride]

27. the theory generally doesn't match the practice

therefore this is one reason to be against the death penalty, in addition to the barbarism aspect as mentioned above.

that said , i have no practical opinion at this time

[Hekate]

28. That's not what this is

And I think you know it

[Lithos]

29. No...

In theory, it makes sense in a limited situation. In practice - it is a horrific sh*t show which is frequently abused.

L-

[walkingman]

30. Nope

[kelly1mm]

31. How many pro gun control posts have you seen since 11/5? DU is often very situationally dependent

rather than morality based in it's positions.

[Silent Type]

32. No. Should be banned. But there are some murders so heinous that I don't get too upset.

[usonian]

33. This is flawed logic. It's taking a few outlying points and projecting them as representative of a group or set.

Think “Willie Horton”
Think “But her emails”
Think “Give me a break”

[JI7]

34. I'm not "in favor" of it but I also don't feel bad of some killer gets it

[Raine]

39. Same here. nt

[spanone]

35. Never was.

[Celerity]

37. ...

[Hyperman]

38. Are we now in favor of the death penalty

The stance on the death penalty varies widely across regions and political ideologies, reflecting debates on morality, deterrence, and justice. Public opinion on the issue often shifts due to high-profile cases or societal changes. Some support it as a deterrent for heinous crimes, while others oppose it due to ethical concerns and the risk of wrongful convictions. The question of favorability depends on individual and cultural perspectives.

[ColinC]

41. No. But that doesn't mean we mourn for an evil person's death.

You also don't have to be pro death penalty to be happy when Charles Manson or somebody like him, is killed.

[Elessar Zappa]

45. Are you?

I’m not. What’s the context of your post?

[TexasBushwhacker]

46. Nope, but NY doesn't have the DP anymore n/t