Not a Fan: Sen. Amy Klobuchar Tells Jen Psaki She Doesn't Like What's Happening With Biden Pardons, Including Hunter's

[Celerity]

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/not-a-fan-democrat-amy-klobuchar-tells-jen-psaki-she-doesnt-like-whats-happening-with-biden-pardons/ (video at the link)

Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) revealed that she does not want President Joe Biden to issue pre-emptive pardon before Donald Trump enters the White House — and didn’t like his pardon of Hunter Biden, either. Over the last week, reports have circulated that the president is considering pardoning critics of Trump, including Senator-elect Adam Schiff (D-CA) and retired NIH Director Dr. Anthony Fauci.

During a Sunday morning interview with former Joe Biden press secretary and current MSNBC anchor Jen Psaki, Klobuchar revealed she does not think Biden should issue those pardons, and that Schiff doesn’t either. She also said she was not happy about the president pardoning his son.

I am not a fan of these. I didn’t like the pardon of the president’s son. I didn’t think that that was prudent. But I also am very concerned about this idea of the preemptive pardons. I am, of everyone, very concerned about what Trump is going to do with this Justice Department.

I actually spoke to Adam Schiff this weekend about this in anticipation that you might ask…he has publicly said that he does not want a preemptive pardon, that he believes that this is a nation of laws and that there are judges that make decisions all the time, including during the last Trump administration, including Republican appointees from many different administrations, who did the right thing in many cases under the law.

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[bucolic_frolic]

1. These are extraordinary times and circumstances

Have to agree about adulterating the pardon, and its power, but there is a Big Fish to fry. You protect what you can with irregular measures in hopes of returning to normalcy in a later time period. Pardons are a barrier, a boundary, thrown at TSF as well as any Trump judges. Remember, each judge can just dismiss a case. They don't always do so, or they could potentially dismiss a pardon. But it's an act they have to do.

Not surprised a former prosecutor wants pardons the same way they always were. There are a lot of things we don't like about the landscape as it now lays.

[karynnj]

48. I really don't know whether the pardons would help or hurt.

It is clear that the people Trump wants in the DOJ, FBI etc are being selected, as he promised, for retribution. That campaign promise coupled with his choices in that very vein, mean that his administration will investigate, indict and try many people who have broken no laws. In part, this will be what he actually wanted to do in the first term and something that might equate the charges against himself and his people to what in most cases will be totally bogus çharges.

So, there are two ways to look at the blanket pardons. They will almost certainly be called admission of guilt by Trump and other Republicans. Many people covered might not want them for that reason. It also might normalize the practice of an administration, with the extreme version of immunity considering they can break any inconvenient law.

On the other hand, many lives of many innocent people will be destroyed by having to deal with charges. Some like Fauci, a respected long term public servant, could face CT based charges. That would be a huge miscarriage of justice against a man in his 80s. Could a preemptive pardon avoid that?

The other factor to consider is that pardons may not avoid these cases. If other people are the ones charged, those pardoned can still be investigated and called to testify. For instance, would Comer have stopped the Hunter investigation,which was really a Joe Biden investigation, had Hunter been pardoned as soon as the plea bargain fell apart?

[no_hypocrisy]

2. And what will be her attitude when Trump pardons everyone from January 6?

Everyone. Adjudicated criminals. Insurrectionists. Domestic terrorists.

[Prairie Gates]

25. A minor tut-tut

She won't even be booked on a Sunday show to make it. A three-line press release that nobody will see.

[Think. Again.]

3. Yeah, trusting republicans is just not a smart move. At all.

[Autumn]

4. I'm not a fan of the way republicans and trump have harassed Hunter Biden for the last 8 years.

Going so far as to post pictures "stolen" from his lap top. They already threatened to go after him when trump takes over again. Fuck that concern shit. If you aren't aware that nothing is normal anymore perhaps you should look for another job or party.

[LisaL]

6. Let's face it, some democrats weren't that good to Biden either.

How many demanded he dropped out, right before the convention? And what do we have to show for it?

[2naSalit]

7. Kind of...

Pisses me off with all these sudden Susan Collins wannabes.

[Magoo48]

5. Not her son.

[Crunchy Frog]

8. I genuinely like Amy, but WTF does she think we're dealing with?

If our party is even going to survive we need street fighers, not people who are going to get the vapors every time one of their fellow Dems is even a little bit proactive.

This is actually embarrassing.

[Submariner]

9. Why is this so hard to understand??????

Joe Biden said he would not pardon his son when no one in their right mind imagined a second term for Putin's asset.

When he did get re-elected, it was suddenly clear his son was a dead man without the pardon. It is not difficult to understand that Trump wanted Joe's surviving son dead. To have Joe Biden's son die behind bars would be his ultimate retribution. His happy revenge would be knowing he ripped Joe's guts out.

He would probably throw a party at Mar A Shithole very soon after to openly celebrate "an in your face to you Joe" death of your son. You fucked with me, and now your last surviving son is dead. The senator should understand the pardon was the only choice to keep his son alive.

[EdmondDantes_]

38. The problem with that is even after the election, the same thing was said

On November 7th the press secretary insisted that Hunter wouldn't be pardoned.

[Submariner]

47. Understandable

Before November 5th, Biden could be confident the DOJ would be run fairly under the law.
After November 5th, that confidence totally evaporated, and rightly so.

After a few post-election days of listening to maga's "it's time to get even with Biden" chatter on right wing TV and social media, he had no confidence his son could possibly get a fair trial from maga judges and courts, so he changed his mind a couple of days later than you and the magaverse may have liked to save his kid.

[karynnj]

49. The press secretary repeated what was until Biden announced a pardon the official position

This is different than if Biden himself would have been asked and answered no.

[Emile]

10. Amy, you are wrong about Hunter's pardon and

probably should keep your opinion to yourself.

[Conjuay]

11. HEY,Amy

Who the hell asked you?
As Tim Walz said, "Mind your own damned business!"

[SamKnause]

12. I am sick of Dems pretending this is a nation of laws.

How many laws did trump and trump's administration break ???

[Kaleva]

22. Do you consider yourself to be a law abiding citizen?

There'd be no reason to be so if you didn't think we are a nation of laws

[Kaleva]

33. You are fine with the current laws then

And thus hold the opinion that we are a nation of laws.

You choose to be a law abiding citizen. It's not an accident.

[JohnSJ]

32. That is another not so subtle way of normalizing and legitimizing the sociopath, and it is disgusting that some

Democrats don't seem to understand history. That is what too many people and countries tried to do in the 30's and 40's with hitler and mussolini, and the world paid a terrible price for that.

[Silent Type]

13. Another Democrat eaten for her comments.

[Blue_Tires]

15. She brought that shit on herself

[Emile]

36. +8

[Happy Hoosier]

19. She's wrong though.

She still thinks we are a nation of laws. That’s gone for at least a little while.

[Kaleva]

21. Which laws are you not following?

The only people who follow the laws are those who believe we are a nation of laws

[Happy Hoosier]

37. Oh they still apply to us peons...

But Trump and his kakistocracy? Nope. They can do wha they want with impunity. Joe would be nuts to not protect who he can however he can. Otherwise, we're just surrendering.

[Blues Heron]

28. ha ha

[SocialDemocrat61]

40. She can't be criticized for her position on an issue

Are you just supposed to be sycophants?

[DeepWinter]

14. Sadly

I see a Democrats on X, IG, Tic Toc also criticizing Biden for the pardon as well. Appears it's divisive even within Democrats. Last week it was within DU too. Cest la vie.

[Blue_Tires]

16. We'll see who's still outraged

When Donnie is coronated and pardons himself on day one

[Polybius]

41. I don't think he'll pardon himself until he is about to leave office

There's really no point early on, he's immune while President.

[Happy Hoosier]

20. They still think the old rules apply somehow.

They don’t. Should we sacrifice good people to that delusion? I don’t think so.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Seems Naive

I'd expect acute awareness from a dem senator.
Her view here does not meet that expectation.

[Prairie Gates]

23. I'm a fan of 1,000 preemptive pardons

The pouting and foot stomping over this is hilarious.

[Scrivener7]

24. Bla, bla, bla, shut up.

[Blues Heron]

26. law says you can pardon, so get over it.

We are playing hardball here, not tiddley-winks

[NoMoreRepugs]

27. Wanting to believe that the law will be just when the SlobFather is screaming it WONT is not smart.

[in2herbs]

30. Do these Ds really believe what they are saying or are they really glad for the pardon and only saying

they're against it because of their R constituency, and for a politician, it's always election time!

[kacekwl]

35. Better to say nothing then.

If she knows how.

[kacekwl]

34. Tough shit Amy.

Some people don't know when to shut up. She will say nothing when the Jan. 6th hostages are pardoned.

[Alice B.]

39. My question about preemptive pardons is this-

Hunter Biden aside, but particularly where preemptive pardons are concerned— if we cross over to a point where BS, non-sensical charges can be brought and made to stick, why would a preemptive pardon mean anything?

I think I don’t entirely understand how this stuff works.

[the_liberal_grandpa]

42. I've never been a fan of Klobuchar either

They knifed Joe in the back and want to keep kicking him on his way out after their plan to win the election failed.
I think Joe should do whatever, and I mean whatever he thinks is he should do and ignore all of these
whiny ass Dems who think they know better. After all, whats the worse than can happen? They lose the Presidential election?
Oh, wait, they already did that.

[jalan48]

43. Amy's trying to figure out how to navigate as a Democrat in the new era of American Fascism.

She's chosen appeasement and the pseudo role of, the "Loyal Opposition", in hopes she can remain in the Senate.

[GaYellowDawg]

45. She's not one of the ones under the gun

So she should STFU.

[republianmushroom]

46. We will see how she likes the convicted felons pardons.

[Historic NY]

51. Was she okay with Trumps pardons?