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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn Fetterman has joined Truth Social and just posted
His first post is advocating for Trump being pardoned.
He is gonna flip, isn't he?
Posting on a Nazi platform.
on edit: I won't be posting a link for obvious reasons.

Initech
(103,330 posts)
Celerity
(47,744 posts)

That is pure MAGA, including the "Willie Horton" trick of using a gratuitous picture of Bragg in the post. This, from a Democratic senator??? WTAF???
Initech
(103,330 posts)But that is pretty nauseating!
AKwannabe
(6,542 posts)Twilight Zone SHITSHOW!
republianmushroom
(18,652 posts)Scrivener7
(53,808 posts)Passages
(1,720 posts)Shameful.
LoisB
(9,321 posts)He made this transition before the inauguration too. I am truly worried now about how votes will go in the Senate.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)And may be worried. Just a thought.
sop
(12,344 posts)LoisB
(9,321 posts)hoped he would be one of the movers and shakers in D.C. Great disappointment.
Indeed he is a deep disappointment.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,193 posts)I think he's been drifting for awhile now and I wonder if he's going to be the new Manchin/Sinema or if he's defecting.
Think. Again.
(21,266 posts)...a manchin/sinema "wildcard" role.
LoisB
(9,321 posts)berksdem
(761 posts)in the future...
Passages
(1,720 posts)berksdem
(761 posts)I have no idea what is going on with him tbh.
rampartd
(1,404 posts)i hope he understands that if he is not 100% maga he is a one term senator
my own dipshit cassidy already has a maga loon announcing to primary him in 2026
hlthe2b
(107,639 posts)His Federal charges are on indefinite hold and Pres. Biden has zero ability to pardon for state charges, including the 32 felonies for which he has not been sentenced. So, what is the point beyond posturing to MAGA?
Klarkashton
(2,796 posts)obamanut2012
(28,176 posts)tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,442 posts)I wrote this before and I'll write it again, FUCK anybody that supports trump and won't fight him. I hope Fetterman gets his ass stomped.
mvd
(65,563 posts)Need to primary him. I really thought hed fight for us. Ill vote for him if hes the nominee (unless he switches parties).
Way too far. All of them that refuse to fight against trump. Many gave their life for this country to fight our enemies. None have been greater enemies against the USA than trump. Yet, some of these so-called Dems haven't the courage to blow their own nose. But they sure do love to toot their own horn.
bucolic_frolic
(48,404 posts)I never believed him. The whole no suit, non-conformity thing. I guess he goes against convention at every turn. And yet again.
cyndensco
(1,739 posts)
orleans
(35,553 posts)Fetterman justifies but does not apologize for chasing down and brandishing shotgun at Black jogger while Braddock mayor
source-https://www.pghcitypaper.com/news/fetterman-justifies-but-does-not-apologize-for-chasing-down-and-brandishing-shotgun-at-black-jogger-while-braddock-mayor-18901042
sop
(12,344 posts)cyndensco
(1,739 posts)This incident is the first thing I think of whenever I hear his name.
drray23
(8,077 posts)He became meaner, ruder and started espousing positions contrary to the main democratic platform he once supported and got elected on.
SunImp
(2,385 posts)Not much different than the recent wave of Dems switching parties
Fullduplexxx
(8,422 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,841 posts)mzmolly
(51,859 posts)I ask?
dalton99a
(86,019 posts)CrispyQ
(38,953 posts)
DronePilot
(38 posts)As if the dress code and bad facial hair hasnt screamed MAGA from the outset.
Have always disliked him- another blowhard.
dalton99a
(86,019 posts)WarGamer
(16,172 posts)I don't know if he'd WANT the pardon.
Merchan is considering that motion right now...
The case gets tossed and Trump is no longer a convicted felon.
dpibel
(3,498 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)
It's a state case, so the DOJ can't do anything with it.
Some of the counts were committed before he gained the position of king can do no wrong. The ones that were committed while he was sitting on the throne would assuredly test whether there is anything a king can do that is not official duty (Roberts, J., "It is clear from the history of the Constitution that the framers would have considered reimbursement of hush money payments to be well within the ambit of the duties of the office, even if not precisely within the core duties" .
In the normal world, a dismissal N.O.V. happens when there is clearly a lack of evidence to support the jury's verdict. That's a pretty hard sell on this one.
As far as I can see, the only reason you might believe he has a decent chance of dismissal is because his lawyers say so, and even filed a motion saying that!
Obviously, in these troubled times, any prediction is subject to the looniest outcome. Even so, Merchan has not thus far taken kindly to the Trump team's shenanigans.
What's more, the Supremes just denied a whine from the Trump gang asking that he be allowed to badmouth everyone involved in the case. So they're not down with the idea that Merchan has fucked it all up.
WarGamer
(16,172 posts)Some of the evidence admitted at the trial is covered under Immunity Decision... the prosecution argues it's immaterial and they would have won anyways... Trump argues it torpedoed the case.
Merchan said earlier...
Sentencing delayed if still appropriate after considering the motion to dismiss.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)If there's no such thing as a rule of law anymore, why the hell am I obeying it?
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,210 posts)dpibel
(3,498 posts)Can you point me to the settled fact that "some of the evidence admitted at trial is covered under Immunity Decision."?
I've spent a fair bit of time searching, and I can't find where Justice Merchan said that, or even where he said "..."
I believe Merchan said that he was open to examining whether the Supremes gave Trump an unlimited Get Out of Jail Free card.
And for sure, Trump's incoming WH counsel has said that.
But there remain two things:
1. What part of the hush money case is covered by the Supreme's immunity decision? and
2. If some of the evidence was inadmissible, was its admission harmless error?
I'm happy to read what Merchan said earlier...
Just be so kind as to give me a link.
dpibel
(3,498 posts)And it was so very young. Likewise your elliptical comment that followed this one.
I'm sure, however, you believe that the appellate courts will set this straight.
Even though you seemed awfully certain that Merchan would get it right.
WarGamer
(16,172 posts)BTW, Merchan is still to rule on the other dismissal motion. But I'm sure you knew that.
dpibel
(3,498 posts)"I didn't think he would grant it. I just said 'decent chance.'"
But, hey! You can hope for the other dismissal motion!
You could still be right!!
Because Merchan seemed really wishy-washy in his opinion here. Right on the feather edge. Just wishing he could dismiss.
Well. Maybe not so much. Have you read today's opinion?
WarGamer
(16,172 posts)dpibel
(3,498 posts)Are we supposed again to take your word for definitions of terms?
Nuh-uh! Decent punctiliously means between 78 and 89 percent! Because, like, I know.
I'll be fascinated to read the logic text that tells us "decent = 30%." Lay it on me.
dpibel
(3,498 posts)You really think that a judge who just committed the following words to the record is probably just winding up to dismiss on the other motion:
"Lastly, this court concludes that if error occurred regarding the introduction of the challenged evidence, such error was harmless in light of the overwhelming evidence of guilt." Slip opinion, at 41.
But Merchan's kind of a jokester, I guess. Lambaste the guy in one ruling and then, THIS TIME FOR SURE, do the right thing and dismiss the case.
You are such an optimist!
spanone
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Bluethroughu
(6,684 posts)CousinIT
(10,837 posts)


riversedge
(74,123 posts)choie
(5,049 posts)N/t
CousinIT
(10,837 posts)BeerBarrelPolka
(1,442 posts)These people simply are not Democrats. It's beyond absurd at this point. There's no way they could have gotten this far being that stupid. It's bordering on complicity in my mind.
tishaLA
(14,459 posts)About their party's activist base -- while repub elected officials are completely subservient to their party's. Our folks used to at least pay lip service to our concerns, since at least the BLM movement forward they've just given up. And I'm sure part of the reason now is that the repub party has been sold to a revolting billionaire who isn't afraid to spend millions of dollars to defeat anyone who crosses him.
CrispyQ
(38,953 posts)In two years they will be asking us for money & votes.
Cirsium
(1,636 posts)No way around it. The level of betrayal boggles the mind.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)ecstatic
(34,599 posts)needs to be fired from his staff as soon as possible. Wow! Completely clueless! Eloon doesn't give a fuck about the first amendment.
brush
(58,675 posts)What an a-hole. He's currying favor with trump and the winning side.
Omnipresent
(6,621 posts)Can someone tell him to shut the fuck up!, for me?
Bettie
(17,650 posts)any day now
obamanut2012
(28,176 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)He'll turn Independent and be a cosplay Trumper until the GOP replaces him with a REAL Trumper in 2028
Quiet Em
(1,527 posts)He desperately wants acceptance from and to fit in with the MAGA crowd. Not impressed.
Gore1FL
(22,125 posts)I used his weird defense of Trump as the reason when asked.
Pisces
(5,860 posts)Response to obamanut2012 (Original post)
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et tu
(1,919 posts)he wants his wife and kids to stay in the usa???
Tarzanrock
(595 posts)Maybe the new "education" secretary will let him wrestle on the WWE? What a fucking clown! Just one more for the Republican Nazi Party circus.
NotHardly
(1,565 posts)IzzaNuDay
(838 posts)Fetterman should know better, right?
littlemissmartypants
(26,499 posts)Once you've had one stroke your risk for another increases exponentially. He could be having multiple mini-strokes, ischemic events, cerebral infarcts, brain bleeding and not even know it until........ BAM!! Total personality change!
I would love to get my hands on his medical records. I know I could get to the crux of the matter quickly. Years of training and experience. My boss used to call me "a finely tuned instrument" because of my diagnostic skills with our neuro patients.
They are all mostly DINOs to me now. Until proven otherwise. I consider this last election as a giant reset and until folks start proving what they will and won't stand and fight for they're all suss. But then I'm a victim of the Tim Moore mistress Trish Coleman defection.
My jury is way out right now. It's a gestalt view for me for a while. Time will tell.
❤️
Cha
(306,823 posts)Hell should the 🤢 Sick Fuck be pardoned ?
angrychair
(10,083 posts)A guy that grabbed a shotgun and chased an innocent black man down the street is now signing up on a Nazi website to advocate for a pardon for a racist rapist and pedophile.
Gosh, I wonder why we lost Pennsylvania??? It's a mystery.
live love laugh
(14,875 posts)
Xolodno
(6,821 posts)...people were saying Gavin Newsom was too far left to be a serious contender for the Oval Office and Fetterman would be a better choice.
I love the smell of people eating crow in the morning.
sanevoiceus
(16 posts)He will be the new Joe Manchin.
yaesu
(8,518 posts)highplainsdem
(53,645 posts)Henry203
(302 posts)with the hoodie and shorts I knew he was a phony.
Joinfortmill
(17,096 posts)I thought I was imagining things.. Maybe not.
barbtries
(30,138 posts)is causing this shit?!
pardon that fuck? NEVER. History will not be kind to President Biden if he was to do that.
choie
(5,049 posts)Im not surprised.
lark
(24,482 posts)SMH in sorrow
Cha
(306,823 posts)Take on TSF gutting SS & health care for the sake of Putin and the Billionaires?
Festivito
(13,651 posts)Fetterman does not explain that illegal use of campaign funds is not always charged, but, it often is not. Which might be Fetterman's point.
John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
My first truth 👇
The Trump hush money and Hunter Biden cases were both bullshit, and pardons are appropriate.
Weaponizing the judiciary for blatant, partisan gain diminishes the collective faith in our institutions and sows further division.
Think. Again.
(21,266 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)malthaussen
(17,874 posts)I'd hoped for better from him. Alas.
-- Mal
Evolve Dammit
(19,751 posts)orleans
(35,553 posts)TBF
(34,986 posts)favoring Trump you could see this coming.
Probably thinks he needs to be republican to win reelection, so he will flip.
BumRushDaShow
(146,664 posts)and it was used to troll them.
https://truthsocial.com/@KamalaHQ
Fetterman ran as a "populist" (liberal), "populist" meaning "often loud and strongly opinionated" and also "anti-establishment" with respect to some policy positions - his early focus had been for legalizing recreational marijuana here in PA and recognizing LGBTQ+ people (e.g., hanging a Pride flag outside of his office on the balcony at the PA State Capitol building and replacing it whenever it was removed by the Capitol authorities).
Recall his "breaking" the dress code in the Senate with wearing shorts on the floor.
doc03
(37,320 posts)Prairie Gates
(3,948 posts)an asshole.
Oh well, tra la.
Sneederbunk
(15,598 posts)Butterflylady
(4,147 posts)Kamala wasn't doing what needed to be done in PA because dump is very popular here as much as he was last time. I emailed him and said that he wasn't helping kamala, he was doing more harm to her campaign.
Since he really doesn't like his job in the senate, he really should resign.
AloeVera
(2,183 posts)WTAF?
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/11/congress/fetterman-to-meet-hegseth-00193796
Then again, he's been all in on the Gaza genocide, the staunchest defender of Israel's slaughter. So am I surprised? Not at all.
Really, who IS this guy?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,837 posts)I recall Arlen Spector trying to walk that line unsuccessfully. There is always someone further to the right.
ThePartyThatListens
(340 posts)DU doesn't seem to have a thick skin for what people post on here.
obamanut2012
(28,176 posts)Think. Again.
(21,266 posts)...saying they are both political B.S.
Mr. fetterman, Hunter Biden is not a politician.
Nigrum Cattus
(345 posts)Over the top pathetic. Part of the reason we are where
we are is because of Nixon's pardon. His new nickname
will be Scarecrow (wizard of Oz)
themaguffin
(4,336 posts)Hassler
(3,980 posts)Oneironaut
(5,885 posts)Dave says
(5,006 posts)stillcool
(33,114 posts)with a lot of backing or influence, but he got there somehow, and now seems to be paying his dues
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)I never trusted that motherfucker from the beginning... Now he's going to whore himself out at the altar of Trumpism.
nini
(16,776 posts)
ecstatic
(34,599 posts)That's why we need to elect smart people going forward. No more newbie blank slates who are easily influenced by disinformation.
Mr. Sparkle
(3,230 posts)I guess Benji is a bit busy at the moment.
Yavin4
(36,885 posts)Either in the primary or in the general. Either way, he's going to lose. No such thing as MAGA -lite.