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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:09 PM Dec 2024

Exclusive: Trump transition recommends scrapping car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Tesla


Exclusive: Trump transition recommends scrapping car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Tesla
Reuters
Jarrett Renshaw
December 13, 2024 at 6:09 AM
By Jarrett Renshaw, Rachael Levy and Chris Kirkham


(Reuters) - The Trump transition team wants the incoming administration to drop a car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Elon Musk’s Tesla (TSLA) , according to a document seen by Reuters, a move that could cripple the government’s ability to investigate and regulate the safety of vehicles with automated-driving systems.

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The recommendation to kill the crash-reporting rule came from a transition team tasked with producing a 100-day strategy for automotive policy. The group called the measure a mandate for "excessive" data collection, the document seen by Reuters shows.

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NHTSA said in a statement that such data is crucial to evaluating the safety of emerging automated-driving technologies. Two former NHTSA employees said the crash-reporting requirements were pivotal to agency investigations into Tesla’s driver-assistance features that led to 2023 recalls. Without the data, they said, NHTSA cannot easily detect crash patterns that highlight safety problems.

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Exclusive: Trump transition recommends scrapping car-crash reporting requirement opposed by Tesla (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2024 OP
Of course. dalton99a Dec 2024 #1
Shocking 😳 Deuxcents Dec 2024 #2
That sounds familiar... pandr32 Dec 2024 #3
"Slow down the testing, please" tanyev Dec 2024 #21
Smart people will think twice before buying one. milestogo Dec 2024 #4
I hope so Escurumbele Dec 2024 #12
Remember when we used to discuss things like the Emoluments Clause and conflicts of interest? sop Dec 2024 #5
It's because his cars are unsafe in some types of collisions. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #6
To be fair flvegan Dec 2024 #30
Here come the quid pro quos. Martin68 Dec 2024 #7
We are going to learn how much $200 million is worth Escurumbele Dec 2024 #14
Can you see the future headline? Baitball Blogger Dec 2024 #8
Doesn't matter how many people die needlessly in the name of $$$$$$$$. Solly Mack Dec 2024 #9
Yeah, as long as it's the peasantry. not fooled Dec 2024 #34
That's true. Solly Mack Dec 2024 #35
Is Elon behind this so Tesla robo taxis can kill more people Quixote1818 Dec 2024 #10
Side note sdfernando Dec 2024 #13
Remember lawn darts, one death and a ban. (child safety) chuckle republianmushroom Dec 2024 #11
DOT bumpers on big rig trailers. One celebrity death. . .now they are required. AZLD4Candidate Dec 2024 #17
Agree republianmushroom Dec 2024 #19
And being such, they should pay the equivalent "people" taxes mymomwasright Dec 2024 #32
Where the hell is Nader....having a tuna salad Historic NY Dec 2024 #15
Writing another "both sides are the same" screed. tanyev Dec 2024 #22
So the only time they will be reported Mblaze Dec 2024 #16
All you need to know. Totally selfish sociopaths. lindysalsagal Dec 2024 #18
My question for the next four years: Who is President? Wild blueberry Dec 2024 #20
Tesla crash reporting will be documented by internet rumor bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #23
Just a matter of time before AdamGG Dec 2024 #24
They already have...(On edit, sorry about the screed that follows ) haele Dec 2024 #33
This is just the beginning - Nigrum Cattus Dec 2024 #25
Then barbtries Dec 2024 #26
All bow to our billionaire overlords. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #27
Those pesky regulations really get in the way of killing people for profit IronLionZion Dec 2024 #28
Of course, no need to expend resources, hamper profit and stock value on the basis of KPN Dec 2024 #29
Won't killing people... TrunKated Dec 2024 #31

sop

(18,605 posts)
5. Remember when we used to discuss things like the Emoluments Clause and conflicts of interest?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:26 PM
Dec 2024

And how we hoped our legal system would actually uphold the law? It all seems so quaint now.

The gates of corruption hell have now been thrown wide open. Every scheming rapacious scumbag with a suitcase full of cash will be welcomed by Congress and the White House, while Pam Bondi looks the other way.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
6. It's because his cars are unsafe in some types of collisions.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:46 PM
Dec 2024

They burn and then they burn some more.

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
8. Can you see the future headline?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:20 PM
Dec 2024

More Teslas driven on automatic controls have killed innocent Americans in 5 years than undocument immigrants have in 50.

not fooled

(6,678 posts)
34. Yeah, as long as it's the peasantry.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:12 PM
Dec 2024

Literally no one will be looking out for most Americans.

sdfernando

(6,084 posts)
13. Side note
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:52 PM
Dec 2024

I was in Las Vegas for work recently and ended up driving behind a fully self driving taxi. As soon as I could I got passed it and sped away. I don’t want to be around those things!

AZLD4Candidate

(6,780 posts)
17. DOT bumpers on big rig trailers. One celebrity death. . .now they are required.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:59 PM
Dec 2024

Same idea. . .Musk just wants to make Tesla above the law.

Mblaze

(1,031 posts)
16. So the only time they will be reported
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:55 PM
Dec 2024

Is when somebody is injured or killed. That way the data won't be "excessive". Send in the clowns. Don't bother, they're here.

Wild blueberry

(8,295 posts)
20. My question for the next four years: Who is President?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:05 PM
Dec 2024

Shadier and shadowier than secret dark money. Ugh.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
23. Tesla crash reporting will be documented by internet rumor
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:20 PM
Dec 2024
I doubt Tesla or Eloon will find that a favorable alternative to facts, science, transparency, and reporting.

Just saying.

haele

(15,393 posts)
33. They already have...(On edit, sorry about the screed that follows )
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:56 PM
Dec 2024

Tech or Medical based Billionaires who aren't still practicing engineers or scientists think their 20 or 30 year old Bachelor's or Master's degree that launched them into their first couple millions means they're still experts in their field.

They like to think they came up with whatever product based on their own hard work, when most of the time, it was leveraged off Government or grant funded research work of other people, and they were lucky enough to either get a foot in the door or be first out the gate with "something new", hustling their way to market before the actual brains behind their product could publish or produce themselves.

They got their billions through great Marketing, luck, and timing.

Granted, being able to take advantage is a skill, but it wasn't their design, scientific or technical genius that got them where they were.

An idiot with a bit of a head start can take advantage of all three; does that make that idiot anything more than an advertising agent selling a product they know a bit about -
- or worse - a thieving grifter claiming other people's products and hard work as their own and cheating both the developers and customers?
Or does slapping their name on cool shiny ideas or vaporware based on other's real ongoing work and trying to pretend their imitative toy have an actual, tangible value?

As for governance, the Wealthy, in general, increasingly seem to have little idea what a Democratic Government that provides Common non-profit public services actually does, especially those promoting there should be fewer regulations and more productivity or efficiency in place to "run government like a business".

They don't care or understand that Governments for Profit end up in a Zero Sum situation, and become increasingly unstable with fewer opportunities and innovation as time goes on.
They end up with the lazy lords on one end and the starving, disposable serfs on the other. Plantation economics only innovates to squeeze out more profit using less labor.

I can somewhat understand the Evangelical End-timer Billionaires. Jaysus is coming; they live for the egotistical assurance that soonthey will be carried up live into heaven where they can sadistically laugh with their pious ancestors at all the sinners and non-believers burning in eternal hellfire while they get everything they want.

But objectively speaking, the Non End-Timer Billionaires (Tech Bros, Resource Extraction, Manufacturing, Pharma and Insurance, Investment) are eating their seed corn by playing their Randriod (Ayn Rand, for those who don't know) Fantasies in a bubble of their own reality.

They got their billions - and have been able protect that wealth and their comfort - because of that boring, intrusive, slightly inefficient Government Bureaucracy, not in spite of it.

The US Government provides them with an educated workforce, a stable environment to operate in, relatively inexpensive resources and prior research.
Over the years it has also saved them from angry mobs or loan wolves with nothing left to lose when they screwed up on the way to their Multi-Millions and Billions.

But no, you "Makers", you "Lords of the Earth" who talk about tearing it all down; turn the world around you into Thunderdome and stick it to the lowly eaters and peasants for entertainment purposes while everything falls apart.
Afterwards, you're suddenly confused as why there's no longer comfortably secure, beautiful bubble worlds or enclaves for you to buy your way back to?
You thought wealth would be worth anything when there's no one left who could buy or make anything you "need" because you burned it all down?

I guess to all those wealthy but emotionally six-years old "adults" grasping for Ultimate Power and short term Ego-boos just show they are stronger and better than everyone else is far more critical to the long term health of the Real World around them.

Not like what the rest of us do to live - we have to go through life putting up with inconveniences and setbacks we can't "buy our way out of" or have Mommy and Daddy solve for us; we survive by cooperation, enduring and learning through constant change, failures, and insecurity. We try to use common sense when (and if) opportunities arise. We try to save when we can to be able to have when we will need it.

Haele

Nigrum Cattus

(1,316 posts)
25. This is just the beginning -
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:48 PM
Dec 2024

They will stop reporting a whole range of things so no one has any
info to work with to make informed decisions. That's why the repubs
want to get rid of the NOAA so they can keep denying climate collapse.
No numbers - No problem. The problem is we are not the only country
keeping stats.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
26. Then
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:49 PM
Dec 2024

they'll outlaw seat belts, helmets, airbags, etc. everything that has made driving safer in the past century will be scrapped.

i am really beginning to think their goal is forcible population reduction.

KPN

(17,376 posts)
29. Of course, no need to expend resources, hamper profit and stock value on the basis of
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:56 PM
Dec 2024

insignificant people.

TrunKated

(281 posts)
31. Won't killing people...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:06 PM
Dec 2024

decrease the white breeding stock Elon wants.

""
Elon Musk says 'population collapse' is a bigger threat than ...
Renewable and Appropriate Energy Laboratory (RAEL)
https://rael.berkeley.edu › 2022/10 › elon-musk-says-po...
Oct 3, 2022 — “Population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming,” Musk wrote on Twitter this summer.

"""

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