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If we all have polio we can't march in the streets
If we all have whooping cough we can't make our voices heard
And if we do manage to get out and protest loudly we will be mowed down by roving killer Tesla's
And grocery prices will still be high
fierywoman
(8,595 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)Makes people focus on survival, and not take any risks.
My favorite line is
"And Though my head is bloodied, it is unbowed"
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/51642/invictus
sage
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)Everyone had to memorize and recite this poem to the class and teacher.
Yes I loved the line you cited.
And: I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)I still remember every word. ❤️
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)moniss
(9,056 posts)"colonies" around the world as well.
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)moniss
(9,056 posts)we will see an announcement of "cooperation" efforts between the Russian military and the US military and joint "training" exercises taking place here in the US.
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)China has the largest military in the world right now, but they are inexperienced and untested.
They also cannot get the hang of the NCO system which is how the US won WWII.
They would LOVE to train with the US military.
And they would steal all US military secrets the first month.
The ones Trump has not already sold them.
moniss
(9,056 posts)I think a major reason, among several, why the NCO idea is so hard for brutal authoritarian regimes to make work effectively is the nature of such regimes to not give the level of trust needed to personnel down in the chain.
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)The Chinese have been trying to invent an NCO class but just cannot get it right.
They tried using junior officers out in the field and that did not work out well.
Yes the authoritarian governments just cannot wrap their heads around the idea of letting
boots on the ground make field decisions.
That is one reason Putin has had so many generals killed in combat. They are on the front
lines directing troops and in harm's way.
Russia and China would love to get US training. But as you point out they are going
to have to trust their NCOs and I don't know if they can do that.
The problem is that in China and Russia the military is so corrupt you cannot trust anyone.
yardwork
(69,364 posts)It makes sense.
BonnieJW
(3,124 posts)RFK wants to take.polio vaccine off the market. Polio!!!!! Does anyone under 60 know anyone who had polio? No, because it was eradicated. I'm 75 and I remember polio. My cousin had it and was left with problems on his right side. Useless right hand and arm. I remember kids in leg braces and crutches. Why would anyone turn that loose on the country? If a foreign country did this to us, they would be guilty of bio terrorism
Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)Pre-planned, pre-meditated, with full intent to kill people.
moniss
(9,056 posts)The "Mother's March of Dimes" and the base organization started by FDR back when we called it "infantile paralysis". Yes a long history with March of Dimes.
What they did to people during Covid was an example of how they do not care if average people live or die. They won't care about this either.
KPN
(17,377 posts)EarthAbides
(450 posts)We are in a fast moving car headed towards a cliff and no one is trying to stop it. We all know what is happening but everyone is trying to act like this is all normal and we will get democracy back. Gut wrenching...
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)bagimin
(1,703 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)Timewas
(2,739 posts)The high grocery prices will be one of our lessor problems
Old Crank
(7,078 posts)erronis
(23,881 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2024, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Look at the venture-vultures buying Long-Term-Care (LTC) facilities.
They've even started monetizing Hospice Care.
Funeral homes, mortuaries, graveyards --- all targets for these vultures.
I'm guessing they'll actually make it illegal to take a canoe out to a deep water and self-dispose (add weights to keep you down...)
lame54
(39,771 posts)erronis
(23,881 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)I've already been thinking about euthanasia. I'm going out on my terms if things get dicey. I'm going to have to make a plan.
I certainly don't want to end up in a torture chamber a lá Bashar al-Assad.
The entire time I was watching the news coverage I was thinking I hope that this doesn't give President Psychopath any ideas. Oh. My. God.
dawn5651
(774 posts)moniss
(9,056 posts)Tesla is called "Killer"? Was it because "Widowmaker" wouldn't fit on the fender?
soldierant
(9,354 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)An unhealthy population, facing short brutish lives, is easier to control.
The billionaires aren't complex thinkers. Musk isn't brilliant, he's just very crafty. He and his buddies are focused on one thing only: power. They eat think and breathe ways to get power over everyone else. Money, obviously. But that's not enough.
One must find ways to subjugate everyone else. Create a population of illiterate, miserable fools who will be glad to enslave themselves to the billionaires.
No need for education beyond technical knowledge. They want plumbers, carpenters, software engineers. They don't want anybody to know history, literature, philosophy or basic science.
No need for a broad-based or equitable health care system. There will be doctors and hospitals for the very wealthy, and everybody else can use Ivermectin and apple cider vinegar for their care.
J_William_Ryan
(3,496 posts)Or not.
This thread illustrates what fascists do distract with ridiculous disinformation and lies.
Get the population obsessed with non-issues like drones and vaccines so they dont notice their rights, protected liberties, and freedom have been taken away.
The threat isnt the return of polio the threat is the tyranny of authoritarian Republican minority rule.
lame54
(39,771 posts)These irrational anti vaxxers will leave vaccines alone?
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)lame54
(39,771 posts)2 opposing opinions
littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,590 posts)Nigrum Cattus
(1,317 posts)This is eugenics. They believe if you weed out all the "weak" humans
you get a better "breed" of humans. 100% nazi crap.
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/educational-resources/timelines/eugenics
Blue Owl
(59,106 posts)Who will purchase products and goods and services from all the businesses owned by the billionaires? Wouldnt that ultimately harm them in the end by greatly disrupting the economy?
Initech
(108,783 posts)If they want to live in a fascist hell hole, they can do so without me.
Blue Owl
(59,106 posts)And Im still not convinced that the hopeless red states shouldnt just break off from the rest of the country and live in their own magamoron country where they are shit on and stepped on but keep asking for more . Why should the the rest of us be dragged down by these mouthbreathing troglodytes?
lame54
(39,771 posts)But Putin may be the richest person in the world
Him or Musk - not clear