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Pototan

(2,714 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:19 PM Dec 2024

It is just getting so disheartening

This Trump 2.0 is getting sickening. Many of the most well-known multi-billionaires are falling over themselves to kiss Trump's ass (I don't use the cleaned-up word, "ring". Mica and Joe, the LA Times, the Washington Post (Bezos) and now ABC,

What the fuck. George Stephanopoulos used the word "rape" to describe the finding in the civil case involving Trump and E. Jean Carrol. They had very little chance of losing that case. A sitting judge described Trump's actions as being considered rape in the true sense of the word. Trump digitally violated Carrol. By any measure, that is considered rape. Trump was found responsible. He is a highly. visible public figure. Arguably the most visible. The only reason to settle was because of fear. The admission gives the other side another talking point.

It just makes it hard for people like us, with marginable wealth at best, with limited platforms, to compete with those who control so much. I'm not saying anyone should just give up. What I am saying is that it is disheartening, and we are swimming against the current. It does seem that courage is lacking in any of these powerful places.

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elleng

(140,140 posts)
1. 'it is disheartening, and we are swimming against the current.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:21 PM
Dec 2024

It does seem that courage is lacking in any of the powerful places.'

Irish_Dem

(72,217 posts)
3. Most disgusting set of events in my lifetime.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:24 PM
Dec 2024

Greatest moral collapse in US history.

On the part of American voters, those who voted for a rapist traitor or didn't care enough to vote.
US Congress and US Judicial system.
The US media.
US billionaires.

Everyone either aided and abetted the crimes and moral collapse or folded like lawn chairs.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
5. There are more of us, than there are of them.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:31 PM
Dec 2024

We have the numbers, and it scares them.

×300,000,000+ people are not in their club
×There are like 5 guns for every citizen
×People are already sick of the poor little
billionaire, see Luigi
×We need to capitalize on the preasure and
aniexty they feel
×Give clear direction on what we want
×healthcare for all
×living wages
×free public education
×lower taxes on the 99%
×enforce the Sherman anti-trust act
×corporations are not people

bdamomma

(68,786 posts)
7. Hopefully
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:43 PM
Dec 2024

those of us will live in reality, those who don't are in for a shock.

Lies and propaganda did much damage to those who can't deal with reality/truth.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
6. You wrote "Trump digitally violated Carrol. By any measure, that is considered rape." That is/was exactly the issue.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 2024

Rape in NY law is very specifically defined. That does not meet the specific definition under NY law. ABC News (or their lawyers/insurers) realized this.

Pototan

(2,714 posts)
9. In the court of law, it is not rape
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:28 PM
Dec 2024

In the court of public opinion, it is. For instance. If a President lied to get us involved in a war or mishandled a pandemic, and you referred to him as a murderer, you would never be found guilty of defamation. It's an opinion based on events of a well-known public figure.

Defamation, by definition, is based on public opinion. You could never be convicted by using the same words that a sitting judge used describing the same event.

ABC would have never lost in court. They caved out of fear of the oncoming dictatorship.

sleroy49

(54 posts)
11. In Illinois
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 12:14 AM
Dec 2024

Digital penetration without consent IS Criminal Sexual Assault, our legal term for rape.

Karasu

(1,590 posts)
8. Textbook fascism. This is the point where everyone starts falling in line to appease the leader in an attempt to be on
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:07 PM
Dec 2024

his "good side."

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,074 posts)
13. That's the kind of news I try to forget. I try to envision Trump getting beat up on by foreign leaders,
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 02:27 AM
Dec 2024

Democrats, then losing seats in Congress in ‘26, imagining the anger of Republicans and Independents when they catch on to Trump and me laughing about it - drip-drip-drip. Day after day. Then him dying on the toilet eating a McDonalds hamburger in a few months. Also, it would be nice if Rupert Murdoch keels over and his liberal kids take over Fox News, etc and his favorite network turns on him.

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